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i am unsure @Kimmio where you get your information re minimum wage, but, as an employee, employer, and on the board of a not-for-profit, I can say that isn't my reality.
Might be an interesting thread.
 
Confuzzled aboot minimum wage?
Let this member of the oppressed class who had to work so hard to get heard over the dominant culture set u straight :eek: in easy 2 understand language
(from his book Knowledge and Decisions)
 
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Note: I am not confused about minimum wage. I appreciate it needs to be higher

I am confused about some information shared here.
 
its a short xcerpt youtube vid with Thomas Sowell giving I think good words on Minimum Wage, another part of life that can b confusing to some :3

(i know therez a heck of a lot of the world that mystifies me...)
 
Pinga said:
i am unsure @Kimmio where you get your information re minimum wage, but, as an employee, employer, and on the board of a not-for-profit, I can say that isn't my reality.
Might be an interesting thread.
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She seems to be under the impression that law is the only constraint on what we pay our non-union workers. Which completely ignores market conditions. Even leaving aside skills and assuming we are only looking at unskilled, you have to pay what the market will support. If other, comparable businesses are paying $3 higher than minimum, then I have to pay it, too. Especially if there is a labour shortage.
 
Seeler said:
In nb efforts have been made to get the people who have. Mental challenges into the work force. My understanding is that they earn at least minimum wage but the government subsidizes the employer. I dontk know the details.
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At my workplace here in Toronto, we've hired through an agency a small number of people with mental illness. I have no idea how much they make. They are all great people to work with - friendly, professional, and hard-working. One has become a good friend of mine.
 
Pinga said:
i am unsure @Kimmio where you get your information re minimum wage, but, as an employee, employer, and on the board of a not-for-profit, I can say that isn't my reality.
Might be an interesting thread.
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Mendalla said:
If other, comparable businesses are paying $3 higher than minimum, then I have to pay it, too. Especially if there is a labour shortage.
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I agree with both these comments. There are many employers who have a desire to pay their employees properly. They factor that into their business plans. Often market is a strong factor as well. The fast food restaurants and similar employers in my area have has to pay more than minimum wage. Not all businesses are ruled by greed.
 
If one exploded the ranks of labour ... would the numbers depress the need to pay more to attract labour in quantity ... but not quality?

Then there is an little heard of law that CEO's and the like ... must be paid 8 -10% commission on transactions in their business field ... even if unprofitable to the entire field!

How failed banks make commissions on the bailing activity! Hay making when you can ... possibly not when you should ... however it is said I shouldn't speak that way about the rich and powerful or I could receive block age ... restriction on the time of my life?

Depends on how you say it ... is naïveté in labour something to recess and think over? Who gains? (from the unknowing state?)
 
I believe the change that Lastpointe referred to is in regard to Sheltered Workshops closing subsequent to the change in Ontario minimum wage legislation. These are usually run by not-for-profit organizations - such as Community Living - to provide structure, social opportunities, respite for parents/caregivers. They are staffed by workers who teach & supervise the workers/clients who are not able to obtain competitive market jobs due to the impact of their disabilities. These are 'social service' agencies in that respect, not free market employers. No employers are getting 'welfare money' that I know of. So this differs from programmes that support those who can work in the general job market.

My prior employer, a public hospital, employed a handful of employees who have intellectual disabilities - they were initially trained & supported by staff from the local Community Living agency. I don't know what wage was paid to them - but they worked usual hours, rec'd benefits, etc.
 
Carolla said:
I believe the change that Lastpointe referred to is in regard to Sheltered Workshops closing subsequent to the change in Ontario minimum wage legislation. These are usually run by not-for-profit organizations - such as Community Living - to provide structure, social opportunities, respite for parents/caregivers. They are staffed by workers who teach & supervise the workers/clients who are not able to obtain competitive market jobs due to the impact of their disabilities. These are 'social service' agencies in that respect, not free market employers. No employers are getting 'welfare money' that I know of. So this differs from programmes that support those who can work in the general job market.

My prior employer, a public hospital, employed a handful of employees who have intellectual disabilities - they were initially trained & supported by staff from the local Community Living agency. I don't know what wage was paid to them - but they worked usual hours, rec'd benefits, etc.
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If they weren't receiving min wage, that's in effect, a workhouse/poorhouse.
 
And I don't think employers are, or should be, social services. Social services need to be delivered by government at some level. Provincial funding with local administration perhaps makes the most sense since local authorities probably know the situation on the ground better than the more remote, centralized provincial ones.
 
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