TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

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dreamerman said:
These are the two things a family member brings up when discussing Trump. This person is very close to me so I try not to give my view on that subject. She gives Trump credit for being pro-life and pro-Israel. I try only shake my head but here I get to vent.;)
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Good to have a hole to do'IT in those grounds a belief ...
 
Graeme Decarie said:
jae, have your ever noticed that Christians are probably the biggest killers in world history. Have you ever demonstrated against that?
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Only that nothing insole ... a metaphor for the great void of psyche? You just know when gods in full presence ... people are terrorized ... and that dispenses with thought down the hole ...
 
Graeme Decarie said:
And when will our churches starting speaking out against our slaughter of all people groups? I haven't seen you doing it, jae.
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Killing is always acceptable when it is the alternate people ... thus women and children are disposed as people ... they may be screwed-up later with emotional stuffing's ... thus the turkey pardoning ... tis directed at the POTUS ... where stuff is percolating ... like things aboard when the Hawaiian's delivered Cook's bones ... the myth grows soupy ...
 
Jae said:
Didn't know you had a P.I. following me around Graeme, or are you peeping at me yourself.

Calling for more and better actions by churches is certainly apt. It doesn't belong in this particular thread though.

Back to discussing the words and actions of President Trump please.
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Yes it does .. the gods collect all things in de vilest fashions ... when the gather de crap on us as a collective ... stuff that just goes down ... eliminated ...
 
Graeme Decarie said:
Geronimo - Don't talk nonsense. You understood what I said. (Sorry. Maybe you aren't bright enough to understand.)

What church-goers could do is to adopt the unwanted babies. But that's yuckie-poo. So they'd probably rather leave that in the hands of scared girls and young women. it's easy to be virtuous when, instead of practicing it, we simply demand it of others.
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Theo there is alternate ...
 
Jae said:
As you yourself graciously allow Cousin, it was a gaffe. A gaffe being something that every public speaker has made from time-to-time. It was unfortunate and amusing that he made it. You can see that in how the others on the video responded to the gaffe.
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But yore perfect as enlightened right?

Darkness is a funny thing ... kind 've occult or approaching film noire in Paris ... and 've occult being close to vocation of not listening Cloe 's ... to the accrued myths !
 
Neo said:
Apparently one of the big issues in today's Government shutdown is that "the Democrats want Mr. Trump and the Republicans to agree to legislation that would allow undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children – known as "Dreamers" – to stay in the country. Mr. Trump wants to trade such legislation for funding of his promised wall on the U.S. border with Mexico." - the Globe and Mail.

"Mr. Trump wants to trade such legislation for funding of his promised wall on the U.S. border with Mexico". Trump wants to trade the lives of 800,000 people to get his wall. What a f***ing jerk!
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Tis a baffling construct ... some can't see by it ...
 
Deidre Bonhoeffer has a similar soliloquy ... albeit many theologians find this heavy reading for the enlightened already!

Similar to Tillich, Barth, etc. (etc isn't that out of here ... additionally beyond ...?) The gap increases ... as separation is good for ... or is that outlandish?

The how much does Trump, evangelists and others misunderstand ... humanity ... almost everything?
 
Kimmio said:
During the March for Life speech, Trump actually said..."...many states allow a baby to be born from - his, or her... mother's womb... right up to the 9th month. It is wrong. It has to change.":ROFLMAO:


Trump said he's against birth in the 9th month of pregnancy


Are those the words from Trump that you appreciated @Jae. Because, I appreciated them too. Lucky I wasn't drinking a beverage. I am sure the comedians will appreciate those words, too. It makes their jobs easier.

(I think he meant to say something else...but, wow, that was some goof-up.)
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And again .... ridiculing the person ... to distract from the very real war crimes that are no laughing matter ... baffles my mind ... how easily we are entertained into absolving ourselves from looking at the 'big picture'.
 
monk said:
And again .... ridiculing the person ... to distract from the very real war crimes that are no laughing matter ... baffles my mind ... how easily we are entertained into absolving ourselves from looking at the 'big picture'.
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Yes, I had a laugh. I'm allowed. It's healthy. He's a powerful leader - it just so happens that he has a knack for satirizing himself.


i thought you were a monk. ;)

I'm not sure anyone sees the whole big picture yet. Including me, including you. And we differ on pieces of the picture we each see. So be it. Have a nice day.
 
Jae said:
In his new book, an evangelical pastor critiques the coming-to-power of Trump. This is one I want to read.

Author of books on presidents’ faith says Trump misunderstands evangelicals
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"Evangelicalism as an approach to Jesus and an approach to wanting to convert the world is fairly solid, but evangelicalism as a political movement is definitely in crisis." (Stephen Mansfield, interviewed by Jessica Taylor in "After 'Choosing Donald Trump,' Is The Evangelical Church In Crisis?", NPR, October 29, 2017.)

"Evangelicalism as an approach to Jesus and an approach to wanting to convert the world is fairly solid"?
Yet ...
"Evangelicalism as a political movement is definitely in crisis."?
 
monk said:
"Evangelicalism as an approach to Jesus and an approach to wanting to convert the world is fairly solid, but evangelicalism as a political movement is definitely in crisis." (Stephen Mansfield, interviewed by Jessica Taylor in "After 'Choosing Donald Trump,' Is The Evangelical Church In Crisis?", NPR, October 29, 2017.)

"Evangelicalism as an approach to Jesus and an approach to wanting to convert the world is fairly solid"?
Yet ...
"Evangelicalism as a political movement is definitely in crisis."?
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The great hope of evangelicals is winning the world for Christ - having everyone accept Jesus into their hearts. However, hopefully we'r coming to a point where politicians can no longer just get evangelicals to vote for them by claiming that they're one of them.
 
Kimmio said:
Yes, I had a laugh. I'm allowed. It's healthy. He's a powerful leader - it just so happens that he has a knack for satirizing himself.


i thought you were a monk. ;)

I'm not sure anyone sees the whole big picture yet. Including me, including you. And we differ on pieces of the picture we each see. So be it. Have a nice day.
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Fine you had a laugh ... but on second thought ... is it still funny?

Trump Is Not the Problem
  • The challenge of the moment is to embrace radicalism without succumbing to irresponsibility.
  • The one good thing we can say about the election of Donald Trump—to borrow an image from Thomas Jefferson—is this: It ought to serve as a fire bell in the night. If Americans have an ounce of sense, the Trump presidency will cure them once and for all of the illusion that from the White House comes redemption. By now we ought to have had enough of de facto monarchy.
 
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