Is Ontario headed for another Wynne win?

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Let's not forget that the history of tolls in this province is not a good one. The two toll highways we have (407 and 412) are profit generators for private companies with huge admin fees. Yes, some of that goes back to the government and to maintain the highways but, once again, they are being run for profit and that's a big problem for me. A short trip on 407 without a transponder results in more admin fees than mileage fees and even a transponder comes with an annual fee. I have never seen this happen on a US toll highway and I do not hesitate to use toll highways down there. However, I avoid 407 like the plague unless there's a clear justification for doing so or it's a business trip so that I can expense it.

Given that history, is it any wonder people in the GTA are opposed to more tolls? Personally, if it is done purely on a per km basis with no admin or statement fees and all profits are sunk back into the highways, I have no problem with tolls. However, that is not how our current toll highways are being run and if Wynne wants to get support for more toll highways, she is going to have to make sure that new toll highways are run sanely.

Hi Mendalla....apologies for the late response. I don't get online much these days. I guess the logistics of toll highways isn't something I've researched, but I'm not sure what John Tory's model was. It's intended structure was to generate dollars for road maintenance, but maybe you're right. It's moot since the project never got off the ground quashed by KW. Speaking to the downtown Torontonian people in my acquaintance, they all supported it since it would mean fewer cars in the city. Toronto is becoming more bike and pedestrian friendly.
 
Mendalla said:
Does Wynne really think fighting Brown in court rather than on the campaign trail is going to help?

It isn't going to hurt.

There is a lesson that the Ontario Conservatives have failed to learn over the last few elections and Wynne, taking Brown to Court, is counting on Brown not having learned the lesson himself.

The lesson, in simple form is, "shut the hell up losing from ahead is easy to accomplish."

Just because the province may be tired of bumbling Liberals doesn't mean that they actually want to hop back in bed with mean Conservatives.

Nobody needs to sell Ontarians on the fact that the Liberal ship is a mess. It is very well known. What Ontarians need to be sold is that there are alternatives that aren't worse and so far the Ontario Conservatives have failed to find a salesperson who can actually deliver that message.

Brown, in shooting his mouth off (actually following the lead of another MPP) demonstrated that truth doesn't matter. The MPP in question got a similar letter from Wynne's lawyer and he offered a formal apology. Anybody remember that MPP's name without resorting to google? Maybe if he was your MPP you do. At any rate nobody is talking about him running his mouth off which is in his best interest when he has to defend his seat.

The longer this goes on the only hope Brown has is the case being dismissed or Wynne fails to prove the case. Brown's only defence is that he was telling the truth (and he wasn't) or that no reasonable person would have believed him.

Mendalla said:
While I do think he crossed a line with his remark and should have apologized, suing over what is really a political spat seems like a counterproductive waste of time to me.

Which is fair opinion. I wonder though, how many women and gays who have been bullied in the past are going to interpret events.

Mendalla said:
It certainly isn't going to help her come next spring and could be played against her if Brown's team do it right.

It can only be played against her by Brown if the case is dismissed or he proves that he spoke truly (not) or so outrageously that no reasonable person would have believed him. That being the case he would have been upfront and apologized even spinning the apology so that the blame was not for what he so foolishly stated but for the fact that people foolishly believed him.

But apology is politically dangerous during the campaign because the one big question mark is his reputation for fair weather voting.

If you think that the other leader can't be trusted with the truth you have to demonstrate that you can be trusted with it and his stupid comments and refusal, thus far, to own them demonstrates that he cannot be trusted with the truth either.

And in politics the devil you know generally wins over the devil you don't.
 
Unfortunately, the miserable little weasel has hung around long enough that he is recognizable. I hope he doesn't apologize. I'd like as many as possible nails in his coffin so that he may never be tempted to get out again. I made a conservative telemarketer laugh the other day when, upon being asked if "Patrick Brown could count on my support in the next provincial election" I answered that "there wasn't a fecking snowball's chance in Hell of that".
 
There's the great crisis that nobody seems eager to look at. The wealthy of our world don't pay taxes - and they are increasingly hoarding away larger junks of whatever money is available. We are looking at a new rule by billionaires, just as dukes and earls used to do.
Plato notes the perennial progression from democracy to oligarchy and culminating in tyranny.
 
“States are as the men are; they grow out of human characters.” - Plato

"The chaos in state governments is a result of an excess of democracy. People do not want virtue; but are dupes of pretended patriots,and are misled into the most baneful measures and opinions by the false reports circulated by designing men.” - Elbridge Gerry

Tyranny is on the ballot now ... and most of the people are, without much real thought, saying ... you have my vote!
 
“States are as the men are; they grow out of human characters.” - Plato

"The chaos in state governments is a result of an excess of democracy. People do not want virtue; but are dupes of pretended patriots,and are misled into the most baneful measures and opinions by the false reports circulated by designing men.” - Elbridge Gerry

Tyranny is on the ballot now ... and most of the people are, without much real thought, saying ... you have my vote!

Did not such tyranny get initiated by some plotter that declared that the tree of knowledge was eliminated and denied from the Citi? Good Lord did we get confused in identifying the Gods from the advocates thereof?

Confusion in the interim period of the rule of politic? Can there be interim or intermediate domains in polity? Seems to me in word to be a' post hole licked ... rather stuffed by those living high on the hog ... and thus the expression Pigs in Heaven ... and they don't know it and thus could be in a hell've a trough according to one old story that repeats and goes on through the time Passover ... that's Jude 'n the other guy forming demi urges ...

Appears to me as the Jack and Jill'd of the write and wrong gangs in the way history was demonstrated to be corrupted by the wrong perspective ... what a winner ... and they hate the subtle under things ... ain't that a dog ... or just a place to pit the cogs of the Great Weal?

I find it such observation is humbling and belittling and leading to Big-Little man states ... and something gets buried by Hur wishing it out of sight ... and emotions will dissociate IT from mine ... kind of like po' lyre understood poetics ... because one cannot tell truth in front of potential tyrants ... thus partisan activity that may appear passive ... but it may not be given the tendency to collapse at the image of great naïveté expected --- Charles what's his name ! Yo can illustrate this with ungodly word ... something that doesn't indicate great respect for destructive powers! That doesn't seem rational to them but there are upsets and reciprocals ... when the gods don't get Ide right ... the primal power of stewing ... tis in the bible and caused separation of siblings .... into those that cook and those that don't cook up nothing ... a heated controversy! Resembles conflict ... but possibly another mistake!

A mistaken conspiracy? But you can't say that ... about the innocents ... they didn't see what was coming ...
 
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"States are as the men are ..."

Is this similar to a state of mind in heaven ... without a thought process? It is easy to get by this lack of process, or so I find that understanding can be displaced by composite complexity ... chaos in the simple version!
 
Lots of opinion there.

Another writer could coo admiringly about how sensitive she is to the culture of her audience.
 
Lots of opinion there.

Another writer could coo admiringly about how sensitive she is to the culture of her audience.

With 3 faces you could come forth as go'dis ... de viled one ... earthy subjects hate the objective ... thus no di verse fix Asian ... and Taos out ... P' Aegean? Dark wine poled ... sometime Azure as you can imagine ... purple people 'eater? Could be uv ... or a beaver ... large chipmunk?
 
It looks like Ms Wynne's popularity has risen marginally. This began in Sept. when it went from 12- 17%. but she still runs much lower than any premier in Canada! That was in the fall. Maybe now in Jan. with the free dental care for the under 25's, the $14 minimum wage and support of the tech sector makes it slightly less improbable she will lose next spring.
 
It looks like Ms Wynne's popularity has risen marginally. This began in Sept. when it went from 12- 17%. but she still runs much lower than any premier in Canada! That was in the fall. Maybe now in Jan. with the free dental care for the under 25's, the $14 minimum wage and support of the tech sector makes it slightly less improbable she will lose next spring.

Free dental care for the under 25's? What's this bit of ageism? Wow - did not know about that.
 
Free dental care for the under 25's? What's this bit of ageism? Wow - did not know about that.
If it were free for everyone you would still complain about it being too costly for the government and that tax payers would be footing the bill. In other words damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 
If it were free for everyone you would still complain about it being too costly for the government and that tax payers would be footing the bill. In other words damned if you do and damned if you don't.

The trouble with cursed human people that might abuse their gift of mind ...
 
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