How bad is Hillary, really?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/al...y-clinton-has-done-in-one-big-list-2016-02-04
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TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?
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Are there billions that could be made prodigal ... wasted? It is a particular*ly odd thought but not funny!
Is there right and left behind realism supporting hermeneutics? Just a thought following the emotional bust ...
Powerful personalities really do not like to hear of whining and victimization ... if not heard it can be ignored ... thus such information is easily wasted i.e. prodigal eye's d! Creatively niched in the pits of the mind?
Graeme Decarie
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to Pr. Jae, and rev DD - Whatever Chicago's attractions might be, the fact remains that it is a cesspool of poverty and racism. It began when free trade deals made it possible for the auto industry to move out and to take advantage of dirt cheap labout in poor countries. Factories closed. residential districts fell into decay, the city could not afford basic servcies, the schools suffered, tens of thousands had their water cut off because they couldn't pay the water tax, levels of violence rose.
A century ago, I'm sure Buckingham Palace and St. James Park were delightful places - as were the mansions of the wealthy of London. That does not alter the fact that the city was a vast slum.
To Pr. Jae and Kimmio - Whatever virtues Trump and Hillary might have, there is nothing in their public careers that suggests the slightest interest in doing anything to help the American people.
A century ago, I'm sure Buckingham Palace and St. James Park were delightful places - as were the mansions of the wealthy of London. That does not alter the fact that the city was a vast slum.
To Pr. Jae and Kimmio - Whatever virtues Trump and Hillary might have, there is nothing in their public careers that suggests the slightest interest in doing anything to help the American people.
Ritafee
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It was @revsdd who was speaking about Chicago Graeme. I answered what he had said regarding my Trump prediction.
Graeme Decarie said:
According to CNN Money, in 2015 the Trump Organization had over 22,000 employees. Source: http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/economy/donald-trump-jobs-created
Graeme Decarie
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Pr. Jae has convinced me. Trump is the very model of what a Christian should be. I should be honoured to take off his sandals and wash his feet. He wants to keep American strong and heavily armed. And that's exactly the advice we constantly get in the scriptures. The concern that has governed his life is for the poor, the frail. He wants to feed the hungry and feel the sick.
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I'm not race baiting. I'm pointing out racism that's uniting a movement around the world that is dangerous and Trump has aligned with aspects of it - the far right. It's happening. Is this guy race bating for discussing racism and admitting it is a problem?
Anyway. We do not see eye to eye on a few things, and we probably won't - particularly how to present our cases. I get the same s**t you sometimes do for being too feely and not enough facty. (Although I think I am both I am chastised for being to feely).
So, is what you're saying, that Trump is race baiting?
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That's comedy gold.
I think that both Donald and Hillary are flawed candidates - but then every candidate is. That said, I don't believe in demonizing either of them. I think they each genuinely want what's best for their country. They have different visions of what that means and how to bring that about.
If I was an American, I'd vote for Donald. I like Mike, and I can't support Hillary because of some of her ideas on some social issues.
Ritafee
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I am reiterating that injustice and inequality are one and the same.
After all the struggle - there remains a 3-tiered caste system - alive and well and keeping us divided into:
1. Rich Masters ( of all colors and religions)
2. Poor White colors (of all religions)
3. Poor Other colors (of all religions)
All skin colors bleed red.
We are one human race.
The 'class' struggle unites us all.
I identify with that.
After all the struggle - there remains a 3-tiered caste system - alive and well and keeping us divided into:
1. Rich Masters ( of all colors and religions)
2. Poor White colors (of all religions)
3. Poor Other colors (of all religions)
All skin colors bleed red.
We are one human race.
The 'class' struggle unites us all.
I identify with that.
Why do you divide 2 and 3?
The levels of oppression each faces and how far back it goes in America is not the same. And some people deal with multiple levels of bigotry and oppression if they belong to more than one marginalized group.
It's not class struggle entirely because even Obama had to put up with racism with the whole Birther thing and the hate groups who denounced him from the get-go for being black before he'd even done anything in office. And he's an educated, wealthy man. He's half white, technically - his mother's ancestors were Irish farmers (correction: mixed Anglo-Saxon and German if it matters), named (correction) Dunham - who immigrated to Kansas, a heartland "red state" - but many people hated him simply for the colour his skin appears.
His mother's background is very similar to my own grandmother's - and yet because nobody on either side of my family has dark skin, I don't face racism. I do face other bigotry for having a visible disability and sometimes for being female, though. Those factors are part of my "class struggle" not the class struggle on it's own.
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Ritafee
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You are intent on race-bigotry baiting. It means nothing to me what color or religion or gender a human is so it does not sway my perspective on what is actually happening in the class struggle. Technically, Obama, Clinton and Trump are humans - being in the Rich Master Class.
That's where we part ways because Obama most definitely sparked the ire of populist hate simply for being black - which Trump exploited - where Trump is rich and powerful and corrupt and white and has admirers because of it. Hillary is rich and powerful and white and somewhat less (in my opinion) corrupt and has plenty of haters for being female. If there were two average income people running, if either were black or female they'd have a harder time getting support than if one were a white male. To ignore that ignores the problem of xenophobia and bigotry that is very much real. It exists in all "classes" but anyone who is poor and of a marginalized group will be hit harder by it.
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Ritafee
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That is one pretty big IF!
Ritafee
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To ignore the real issues around an election of a POTUS and focus only on the 'words' that you keep on repeating ad nauseum - is the reason that we are all going to go down - divided we fall.
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Yuppers.
Typical Clinton racism.
Very shameful.
Hey, maybe these threads ARE over?
pity this busy monster, manunkind,
not. Progress is a comfortable disease:
your victim (death and life safely beyond)
plays with the bigness of his littleness
--- electrons deify one razorblade
into a mountainrange; lenses extend
unwish through curving wherewhen till unwish
returns on its unself.
A world of made
is not a world of born --- pity poor flesh
and trees, poor stars and stones, but never this
fine specimen of hypermagical
ultraomnipotence. We doctors know
a hopeless case if --- listen: there's a hell
of a good universe next door; let's go
E. E. Cummings