Works without faith is dead

[Jaebius]

Yes, the truth becomes ever more expansive and clearer as we evolve in time and awareness. The world had never seen the manifestation of one like the Christ, Who has been likened to as the first true flower of Humanity.

The old religions don't apply to the newer cultures, our ideas change and our awareness expands. The current Christian religion too will eventually be superceded by an even newer revelation. This is why "detachment" is such a trap to be aware of. The longer one hangs on to outdated and old ideas the more they become millstones, holding us back.

The current Christian religion will end when Christ returns to earth to judge the living and the dead and set up the new heavens and earth. Then everything will just be relationship.

 

[blackbelt1961]

I don't doubt that for a second blackbelt, because I believe there is a literal spiritual battle going on; Jesus already won the victory through his work on the cross, but the evil powers of the world still hold the world system kidnapped. I believe we Christians must follow the Spirit of God in claiming Christ's victory.

agreed, what Jesus did on the cross, the powers and principalities continue to teach , sway and pull us away

 

[Waterfall]

Actually, the irony of this counter claim of yours is that it can proven, without a reasonable doubt, that the Bible is a conglomeration of Egyptian, Hindu and Hebrew/Aramaic stories. This introduces a whole array of sources for increased understanding of the allegories and symbolism in the Bible.

One of the greatest "sins" that the original Christian priests ever did, was to place the Bible itself as the final and only Word of God. It started a dark age of understanding that lasted over a thousand years. How can the Bible be the only source of truth when the stories therein originate from other sources? !

It's time we opened our eyes and find the real silver lining of truth that runs across all the scriptures of the world. This is the "truth within", or as Jesus said elsewhere, "the kingdom within", which more aptly describes a state of greater Awareness.

Truth can become exclusive when humans demand God and the angels become merely onlookers.

 

[Neo]

The current Christian religion will end when Christ returns to earth to judge the living and the dead and set up the new heavens and earth. Then everything will just be relationship.

Yes (kind of). Do you understand that a new Heaven and a new Earth are symbolic of a higher general awareness of Humanity? As we rise and expand in awareness we begin to perceive and become conscious of new goals (new heavens), and the old world, with it's old concepts and worn out ideas, passes away quickly.

"Everything will become relationship". Yes! Unification in the Christ Consciousness will be the order of the day. Aristotle once wrote that "the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts". The Christ Consciousness is the "whole" aspect of Humanity. It's always been there, it's just been up to us (as individual parts) to become aware of It. Do you see? It's like each of the individual cells in your own body suddenly becoming aware of "you"! It must be mind blowing at first.

 

[blackbelt1961]

Yes (kind of). Do you understand that a new Heaven and a new Earth are symbolic of a higher general awareness of Humanity? As we rise and expand in awareness we begin to perceive and become conscious of new goals (new heavens), and the old world, with it's old concepts and worn out ideas, passes away quickly.

"Everything will become relationship". Yes! Unification in the Christ Consciousness will be the order of the day. Aristotle once wrote that "the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts". The Christ Consciousness is the "whole" aspect of Humanity. It's always been there, it's just been up to us (as individual parts) to become aware of It. Do you see? It's like each of the individual cells in your own body suddenly becoming aware of "you"! It must be mind blowing at first.

so now Aristotle gets to define Jesus

 

[Neo]

you know Pr Jae, before i became christian i use read a lot of the occult for yrs, i found it fascinating then it lead to trying things out, well oh boy talk about spiritual manifestations ...

You must've really blown a circuit with your "trying things out". Occult (hidden and unseen) energies are powerful and can only be approached under certain conditions.

 

[airclean33]

I'm broken airclean because I still suffer the effects of, and continue to wrestle with, my old sinful human nature. I'm also a saint now, because God has given me faith, justified me, and brought me into His Kingdom.

-Really Jae . Why would you feel that way . GOD has forgiven that which you were. As a matter of fact the word says GOD has forgotten what you done. He Loves you as His Son.

 

[blackbelt1961]

You must've really blown a circuit with your "trying things out". Occult (hidden and unseen) energies are powerful and can only be approached under certain conditions.

powerful & totally demonic, unclean spirits

Thanking the Lord now, I have the greatest Spirit Guide ever, His name is Holy Spirit and I Love Him

 

[Neo]

so now Aristotle gets to define Jesus

Kind of. Aristotle tried to define a natural law in nature. e.g. that the smaller always makes up the larger, and that that larger is more than the sum of it smaller parts. Think of the cells in your body making up a greater whole called you, or all the kingdoms in nature making up a greater whole called a Planet, and then all the Planets making up a greater whole called a Solar System, etc, etc.

 

[blackbelt1961]

Kind of. Aristotle tried to define a natural law in nature. e.g. that the smaller always makes up the larger, and that that larger is more than the sum of it smaller parts. Think of the cells in your body making up a greater whole called you, or all the kingdoms in nature making up a greater whole called a Planet, and then all the Planets making up a greater whole called a Solar System, etc, etc.

thanks there is your error , but I'll let Jesus define Himself

 

[Jaebius]

-Really Jae . Why would you feel that way . GOD has forgiven that which you were. As a matter of fact the word says GOD has forgotten what you done. He Loves you as His Son.

Yes airclean - I believe that God has forgiven me for my sin and loves me for who I am. At the same time airclean, I believe that He did not change who I am. I remain as a sinner airclean - though a forgiven one. What I believe has changed, thanks to God's glorious grace - is the nature of my relationship with God. I am now His son.

 

[Luce NDs]

airclean33 your quote -----I am not broken any more Brother -----I so agree with that statement ---we are not broken in Spirit ---we have God living on the inside of us --we no longer have a broken Spirit we have a Holy Spirit -----and God's Grace is power for us to live a holy life ----our mind is what needs to be worked on ----we can't have 2 minds and master living God's way ------we will be trying to do what God wants but will also give in to our old way of thinking and do our will not God's Will -----

Philippians 2:2 -----King James 2000 Bible

Fulfill you my joy, that you be like minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Context
Being One in Christ

1Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion,2make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose.3Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves;…

Can't be one in Christ with 2 mind sets -------Until we are like Minded with Christ we will struggle with falling into sin -----Grace is there for us to help us be like minded with Christ ----we need to want it and do the work to be of one mind ------Grace gives us the ability we have to want to put this Grace to work to succeed -----Paul is the example of this ---Satan still had access to Him and God said My Grace is sufficient ----in our weakness God's Grace is strength to overcome the weakness -----We have to believe in the power of God's Grace ----


Greek for Mind here ----

5426. phroneó►
Strong's Concordance
phroneó: to have understanding, to think

Original Word:φρονέω
Part of Speech:Verb
Transliterationhroneó
Phonetic Spellingfron-eh'-o)

Short Definition:I think, judge, observe

Definitiona) I think, (b) I think, judge, (c) I direct the mind to, seek for, (d) I observe, (e) I care for

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
to think

From phren; to exercise the mind, i.e. Entertain or have a sentiment or opinion; by implication, to be (mentally) disposed (more or less earnestly in a certain direction); intensively, to interest oneself in (with concern or obedience) -- set the affection on, (be) care(-ful), (be like-, + be of one, + be of the same, + let this) mind(-ed), regard, savour, think.

airclean33 your quote -----I am not broken any more Brother -----I so agree with that statement ---we are not broken in Spirit ---we have God living on the inside of us --we no longer have a broken Spirit we have a Holy Spirit -----and God's Grace is power for us to live a holy life ----our mind is what needs to be worked on ----we can't have 2 minds and master living God's way ------we will be trying to do what God wants but will also give in to our old way of thinking and do our will not God's Will -----

Philippians 2:2 -----King James 2000 Bible

Fulfill you my joy, that you be like minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Context
Being One in Christ

1Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion,2make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose.3Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves;…

Can't be one in Christ with 2 mind sets -------Until we are like Minded with Christ we will struggle with falling into sin -----Grace is there for us to help us be like minded with Christ ----we need to want it and do the work to be of one mind ------Grace gives us the ability we have to want to put this Grace to work to succeed -----Paul is the example of this ---Satan still had access to Him and God said My Grace is sufficient ----in our weakness God's Grace is strength to overcome the weakness -----We have to believe in the power of God's Grace ----


Greek for Mind here ----

5426. phroneó►
Strong's Concordance
phroneó: to have understanding, to think

Original Word:φρονέω
Part of Speech:Verb
Transliterationhroneó
Phonetic Spellingfron-eh'-o)

Short Definition:I think, judge, observe

Definitiona) I think, (b) I think, judge, (c) I direct the mind to, seek for, (d) I observe, (e) I care for

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
to think

From phren; to exercise the mind, i.e. Entertain or have a sentiment or opinion; by implication, to be (mentally) disposed (more or less earnestly in a certain direction); intensively, to interest oneself in (with concern or obedience) -- set the affection on, (be) care(-ful), (be like-, + be of one, + be of the same, + let this) mind(-ed), regard, savour, think.

"proneo" and thus Neo was "pron" on the track ... put down by a literal translation without variety as flat out in unsafe position ... I'll go for depth considering the meat on the bone hides the bones of the story in the dark ...

Too deep and dark for those without depth in the spatial mind! Then if you shelved the mind and saved it .. perhaps it will turn up numb in the future do to no use ...

 

[Luce NDs]

clearly Blavatsky is your truth

Blavatsky as the devil ? Is that a thinking devil as hated by Caesars ... mostly psychopaths or pathological types as ... spiritual boners?

 

[Luce NDs]

Like I said earlier Neo, Jesus is my Truth & Blavatsky the satanist is not


but you already know this

Does satanic vision have more light than blind faith? One must carry their own torch ... thus one will spontaneously ignite and be out of here like a smudge in statute history as laid down by authority. Is there an axiom about corrupt authority? Be humble recess ... judge later ...

 

[Luce NDs]

you know Pr Jae, before i became christian i use read a lot of the occult for yrs, i found it fascinating then it lead to trying things out, well oh boy talk about spiritual manifestations , but regardless, one thing I did learn was that all occult books had one thing in common they ALL every single one attacked the bible , try to discredit it, tried to change its spiritual principles and also used it to validate its own spiritual teachings , no other book was use not the Koran or any other

Did such spirits scare you ... like truth that is testy?

 

[Luce NDs]

thanks there is your error , but I'll let Jesus define Himself

Jesus enlightens himself in the dark shadow of mankind ... only a thinking demon could do such an action ...

 

[Luce NDs]

The current Christian religion will end when Christ returns to earth to judge the living and the dead and set up the new heavens and earth. Then everything will just be relationship.

What we live in the dark shadow of passions ... a smudge?

 

[Luce NDs]

so now Aristotle gets to define Jesus

Does Christ as Light get a chance to cross over into another dark place ? The psyche of man as a devoid belle?

 

[Waterfall]

so now Aristotle gets to define Jesus

There are many things that Jesus said that had been said by others before Christ came to earth. Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, etc.....Does a truth being said by another person, throughout the ages, become irrelevant just because someone else taught it too?

 

[Jaebius]

There are many things that Jesus said that had been said by others before Christ came to earth. Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Pythagoras, etc.....Does a truth being said by another person, throughout the ages, become irrelevant just because someone else taught it too?

Really Waterfall? I did not know that. Can you please give a few examples? Thanks.