What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Northwind said:
I agree. In fact I believe being able to disagree respectfully is a good thing. I have zero tolerance for name calling and labeling. I'm sure you're not surprised. :)
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Duh. You can repeatedly call Mr. Trump "the orange felon," and yet can object to being labelled a "woker?" LOL
And your cancel culture mentality prompts you by your own admission to not even examine the evidence in some of my posts, and yet, you whine that I don't answer questions I have repeatedly already answered! LOL

Oh, and the grave signs of B's cognitive decline just keep on coming. Consider his pathetic gaffe the other day:

 
Imagine being aware of the golden nuggets urge to make more wealth for a small portion of the populace ... when the biblical words speak of alternate wealth ... if one is sentient (ah WOKE) to it! Numinous is a valued thing on the alternate side of the essence ... ash AÐ! Isn't that numb as a soul on the Laam ... out, out damned spot! That was the Black Pearl ... sometimes seen as mustard seed and spicily essential to hot dogging ... what some wealthy and hoar*ding folk do ... some say ass hat as related to a chit brane ... and they are not aware of their reputation in avarice ...

Recall in hard rules ... the wealthy are not to pay for anything ... and this is the way the entire physical existence goes down ... for when the bottom line is gone ... it can't carry chit! Thus the enigma about deficiency of essence ... the mist thought? When adroitly emotional ... overly wrought with emotions ... souls cannot process ... thus the departure ...
 
Mystic said:
Oh, and the grave signs of B's cognitive decline just keep on coming. Consider his pathetic gaffe the other day:
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Have I ever dismissed the idea of Biden having something going on? I have been concerned and frankly wonder about Parkinsons.

Creating a false equivalency between the two men is unhelpful.

As for the orange felon, well he's known for his orange skin tone and he's a felon. I have not called you names.

The felon is a despicable person.

It is shocking that the best the US can do is put up two geriatric white guys for presidential candidates.
 
Mystic said:
This hypocrisy from a woker who whines about being insulted!
Unsafe, I admire you for not playing it safe, as your nick suggests, and for your courage and tenacity in posting with integrity at such woke blokes.
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I'm shocked that you're okay with someone who spreads a toxic theology and who doesn't gave two critical thinking skills to rub together.

You call yourself a follower of Jesus. Have you learned nothing about his woke stance in the world?
 
Mystic said:
This hypocrisy from a woker who whines about being insulted!
Unsafe, I admire you for not playing it safe, as your nick suggests, and for your courage and tenacity in posting with integrity at such woke blokes.
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Dear Sir; have we ever heard you initiate a whine? What is an aboriginal innovative? That's a starter ... a type of metaphor for those that do not believe in paral ells! You know about alternates sent down??? Some say Gabriel to add gamma to the cart ... of ab Rael ... desires to burn the very earth ... because of dis content! Are yu a very unhappy person because you have not seen enough people pained by authority ... that's a corruption factor ... resides among us as a mule ... a type of joust Eire ... playful psyche ... often transparent and unseen as essence of brain ... very small tincture or notion; sometimes a tonic that purges! Out there ... sans ... insane at that! Clues departed as undesired ... to much bother! I stand in the midst as hated medium ... observing extreme behavior ... soon to be eliminated by Cloe ... sure thing! The gates shut ... terrible being confined by hated clues ... and they don't know what their reason ... because they didn't listen ... thus una WOKE! Walking dead ... rather a bit n the mindless side ... since authorities always say ... thinking and processing is evil ... for those evils, one is disturbed everyday ... rising Morningstar ... tis only a symble of something other than it appears ... complexity? The game presented by Gabriel ... sometimes referred to as the angel of blackout ... then the white sheet syndrome ... as hat's covered ... hidden assET's ...

May implicate vast complexities ... varied going' son ... autonomy ... and thus we depart ... from the impossible norm ... shifty ordinary? Flk are like that ... believing they are complete and fixed as edifice ... when they blow through space non-observantly ... blinded fates? So easily warped by apparent power ... even if un raeled ... non virtue?

Tough for an essence to receive other than observation ... and drinking with the Ayers ... hidden social item ... not for ante social type ... tread lightly about the ante ... that's be the mother's Cis! Bust over the land ...
 
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Mystic said:
Duh. You can repeatedly call Mr. Trump "the orange felon," and yet can object to being labelled a "woker?" LOL
And your cancel culture mentality prompts you by your own admission to not even examine the evidence in some of my posts, and yet, you whine that I don't answer questions I have repeatedly already answered! LOL

Oh, and the grave signs of B's cognitive decline just keep on coming. Consider his pathetic gaffe the other day:

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I believe Northwind was referring to showing respect to those with whom a person is discussing or debating an issue. I wonder how someone who taught at seminary has a vocabulary for political discussions that seems so cultish. Most people I know accused of being cancel culture are supportive of giving space to many culturi ines. I believe when people like you use 'cancel culture', they mean cancelling white male privilege. If it means something else, please explain it to me. If not, I will assume it means cancel jerk culture.

I hope you become able to escape the delusion that everyone who disagrees with you has the same set of beliefs and attitudes. I wonder why trying to follow Jesus by showing respect and love for marginalized people offends you so much.
 
unsafe said:
Just maybe God has blessed Trump ---cause all is going in his favor ---

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So according to you TRUMP is blessed because all is going in "his" favour?
I assume "his" favour means Trump, not God?
The Antichrist in Daniel 11 (and Mathew 24:15 reminds us) also has things go in " his" favour....he received a crown (like a king), this conquerer rides a white horse in revelation ,(as all conquerors do), he will establish peace and economic stability. He will pave the way for the third temple.
But scripture warns he is a deceiver. He will be the vilest of sin and rebellion. He will not be revealed until the rebellion occurs and then the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man of destruction. The Antichrist totally opposed every law of God and halfway into his reign, he will reveal his true colors and commit the abomination of desolation and show himself to be a bloodthirsty dictator.
Daniel 11; Mathew 24:15
He will establish himself deceitfully until he reveals his true colours.
There will be wars in different parts of the world but through different political moves and his extraordinary charisma, he will bring economic stability and world peace. He will deceive many.
The Antichrist will not work alone, he will be working with a false prophet. (Revelation 19-20)
The Antichrist will be worshipped as Jesus and the false prophet as the Holy Spirit.
Their followers will be marked on their forehead( by a baseball hat that says Mega)....sorry couldn't resist.
The Bible has warned us in advance.
 
I question the use of religious rhetoric in politics at all. I guess that it is going to happen given the strong influence Christian groups have in the US system these days, but religious labels usually introduce a false good vs. evil dichotomy into the mix. Trump is not the anti-Christ, but a corrupt, narcissistic, slightly unhinged businessman who wants to lead a country. Biden is an experienced, well-meaning and dedicated, but clearly past his prime, professional politician with all the virtues and flaws that come with a life spent in politics. Both are flawed, badly in one case, human beings, not fulfillments of prophecy or agents of God/Satan.
 
Mendalla said:
I question the use of religious rhetoric in politics at all. I guess that it is going to happen given the strong influence Christian groups have in the US system these days, but religious labels usually introduce a false good vs. evil dichotomy into the mix. Trump is not the anti-Christ, but a corrupt, narcissistic, slightly unhinged businessman who wants to lead a country. Biden is an experienced, well-meaning and dedicated, but clearly past his prime, professional politician with all the virtues and flaws that come with a life spent in politics. Both are flawed, badly in one case, human beings, not fulfillments of prophecy or agents of God/Satan.
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Consider who you're talking to, IMO.
 
Waterfall said:
Consider who you're talking to, IMO.
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unsafe is an edge case where it worth using that language. She's also an edge case who is not worth the conversation, IMHO. She has not changed her view on anything in the decade we've known her.
 
Mendalla said:
unsafe is an edge case where it worth using that language. She's also an edge case who is not worth the conversation, IMHO. She has not changed her view on anything in the decade we've known her.
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Well, you and I in particular, are an example of agnostic "talk" vs "God" talk maybe? I absolutely believe in God, and the Bible is one of my sources....so I believe there are many anti Christ's per generations, and that is just a polite way of saying extreme s**t disturber and disruptors of a just society for all. As well as finding truths in other sources, as even Jesus does, I do find truths within the Bible. So when I see the adoration for Trump and even his obvious mistakes because God sometimes picks nasty people for his work ( Paul for instance) I think they forget that a change in character is involved, and when it's not we see the consequences. (Sauls Kingdom was taken from him and given to someone more worthy, because he disobeyed God.)
I'm just saying, whether we like religion in politics or not, it's there, and it's a force that deserves understanding not superior admonishments that atheists or other faiths may have.
 
Waterfall said:
.so I believe there are many anti Christ's per generations, and that is just a polite way of saying extreme s**t disturber and disruptors of a just society for all.
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Which is so not what "Anti-Christ" means in Revelations or traditional Christian thought. It isn't about "s**t disturbers", it's about those seeking power over the world in opposition to God's legitimate power, many of whom are establishment, not "s**t disturbers" (and I would include Trump in that). A properly elected US president who behaved relatively calmly and sanely could still be an Anti-Christ as they used their power to dominate their country and then others. In fact, they would be more dangerous than Trump because people might not even recognize the danger until they were in office and doing serious damage.

I also don't like using the term "s**t disturber" for someone like Trump or negatively in general. I see it as a positive term applied to people like Gandhi or King Jr or other activist types who disrupt the establishment and mainstream to bring about change. Trump doesn't deserve the title, IMHO. He isn't in it to disturb anything, just manipulate the system to his benefit.
 
Mendalla said:
Which is so not what "Anti-Christ" means in Revelations or traditional Christian thought. It isn't about "s**t disturbers", it's about those seeking power over the world in opposition to God's legitimate power, many of whom are establishment, not "s**t disturbers" (and I would include Trump in that). A properly elected US president who behaved relatively calmly and sanely could still be an Anti-Christ as they used their power to dominate their country and then others. In fact, they would be more dangerous than Trump because people might not even recognize the danger until they were in office and doing serious damage.

I also don't like using the term "s**t disturber" for someone like Trump or negatively in general. I see it as a positive term applied to people like Gandhi or King Jr or other activist types who disrupt the establishment and mainstream to bring about change. Trump doesn't deserve the title, IMHO. He isn't in it to disturb anything, just manipulate the system to his benefit.
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I aplogize, I thought the term anti christ was self explanatory...against Christ.
I personally would categorize King and Ghandhi another way but if your definition works for you and others, so be it.
I agree, that the addition of religion complicates things, especially in a multicultural society.
 
Waterfall said:
I personally would categorize King and Ghandhi another way but if your definition works for you and others, so be it.
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I didn't say they were anti-Christs, I said they were "s**t disturbers", and they definitely disturbed s**t for a lot of people, and gave that as the reason I don't equate "s**t disturbers" with "Anti-Christ".
 
Mendalla said:
I didn't say they were anti-Christs, I said they were "s**t disturbers", and they definitely disturbed s**t for a lot of people, and gave that as the reason I don't equate "s**t disturbers" with "Anti-Christ".
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THe John Lewis instruction "make good trouble" comes to mind as I read this.
I in fact would put Jesus in the same category. ANd Martin Luther. And Calvin. ANd Saul/Paul. ANd probably many other luminaries in the story of Christianity.

THeologically Anti-Christ does not mean one opposed to Christ, it most often means the ultimate enemy/evil personified.
 
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