What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Mendalla said:
I didn't say they were anti-Christs, I said they were "s**t disturbers", and they definitely disturbed s**t for a lot of people, and gave that as the reason I don't equate "s**t disturbers" with "Anti-Christ".
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Neither do I, I just said I would use a different term to describe them.
 
I'm not so concerned about whether or not a person is an anti-Christ. I've found the different points presented here to be very interesting. Something to ponder.

What about the idea of false prophets? Is that the same as anti-Christ or something else?

I've also been thinking about whether someone is appointed by god. If you believe the president is ordained by God somehow, then doesn't it stand to reason that one candidate is appointed by god as much as the next person? Wouldn't there be an argument that Biden is president because it was God's plan?
 
Northwind said:
Wouldn't there be an argument that Biden is president because it was God's plan?
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There are those who argue everything is God's plan, which leaves basically no room for humanity to have an active role in its own existence. We are all characters in God's novel sort of thing. And if everything that has ever happened in history is God's plan, I am certainly not about to start worshipping that God. I treat characters in my fiction with more respect than that. In fact, the Gnostic idea of the demiurge, the "false god" who created the universe in opposition to the "true God", comes to mind.
 
Mendalla said:
There are those who argue everything is God's plan, which leaves basically no room for humanity to have an active role in its own existence. We are all characters in God's novel sort of thing. And if everything that has ever happened in history is God's plan, I am certainly not about to start worshipping that God. I treat characters in my fiction with more respect than that. In fact, the Gnostic idea of the demiurge, the "false god" who created the universe in opposition to the "true God", comes to mind.
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Well you know what they say, there's nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself, and most things we see as original thought, usually has been thought before.
 
Northwind said:
Wouldn't there be an argument that Biden is president because it was God's plan?
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Probably, but I can't say I've heard his followers say it or Biden himself.
I'm not sure even Trump says it? It seems to be some of his evangelical followers that do it.
 
"None of the rulers of this age understood this (God's wisdom); for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory (` Cor. 2:8)."

Israel's greatest king, David, was a murderer and an adulterer. Yet he is the only man in the Bible to be described as a man after God's own heart."
So from a biblical perspective, Trump's past crimes and sexual indiscretions are not as problematic for a believer as his unrepentant narcissism, in contrast to David's later penitence and celebration of God's grace and forgiveness.
 
Under such a human condition of chaos ... how could we ever know anything for sure?

Thus the s**t storm that darkens the night ... or at least causes failure of the enlightenment! Lady Macbeth's kettle ... a disturbed spot ... thus some leer into it ... wondering what DF?

While we feel intelligence is bad ... it goes on ... virtue lost!
 
Mystic said:
Trump's past crimes and sexual indiscretions are not as problematic for a believer as his unrepentant narcissism, in contrast to David's later penitence and celebration of God's grace and forgivenes
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"Sexual indiscretions"? Nope. Sexual assault and arguably rape in some jurisdictions.
 
Northwind said:
"Sexual indiscretions"? Nope. Sexual assault and arguably rape in some jurisdictions.
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More differentials to split the house ... with the ultimate effect to bring the entire thing down ... destruction is the great dream and thus we must multiply those that are capable ... the theory of war!

Remember ... it is just war like a sphere out there --- Augustine! It does control run away populaces ... indicting the loss of something or other!

Isn't that stewed ... PID!
 
I should add that I agree that repentance is important/necessary. I'd have more grace for trump if he even took an ounce of responsibility for his actions. As a malignant narcissist, it's unlikely he's even capable of doing that.

I'd like to see Michael Cohen prep Biden next time. He's cut from the same cloth as trump and is a street fighter. He'd have more useful strategies to use to respond to trump. The big difference between Cohen and trump is that Cohen has taken some responsibility for his crimes, even if he had to be essentially backed into a corner in order to do that.
 
Mystic said:
Duh, same with Biden--and King David committed murder to cover up his adultery1
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The difference is that for Biden they are merely allegations. Trump was adjuducated as a sex abuser. He wasn't adjudicated as a rapist only because it isn't in the NY books. What he did would be considered rape in other places. Arguably "sexual indiscretions" might apply to Biden. I don't like that term in general anyway. It might apply to an affair between two consenting adults. Maybe.
 
Here we go -----this is Trump Derangement Syndrome at the Core -------just listen to these threats to assassinate Donald Trump ------People are NUTS --this is getting out of Hand and people need to be Charged for saying such a thing ---talk about inciting violence ---will this takes the cake ----

Left threatens Donald Trump with ‘assassination’ following debate week​



Sky News host Liz Storer says “Trump derangement syndrome” has picked up again after the former president’s “great week” surrounding the debate.“Donald Trump’s great week has resulted in some serious Trump derangement syndrome, we are talking about on steroids,” Ms Storer said. “This has now reached such a hysterical level people are taking to social media to call for Trump’s assassination.”
Tucker Carlson---predicted this would happen -----

If Trump said this on Social Media about Biden --it would be deleted immediately and the left would be calling this violent rhetoric and would be charging Donald Trump of inciting Violence ------

but because it is the left calling for it ---it is OK rhetoric and is able to be left up and no charges are made against these people for Saying such rhetoric -----they should be charged and put in jail for voicing such Threats ----

as Quoted above ----Worth Repeating----------- Trump derangement syndrome, we are talking about on steroids,”
 
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