What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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She wouldn't need to repeat it over and over, if you could simply answer her simple, straightforward question.
 
unsafe said:
If God wants trump in the White House again ----nothing will stop it -----:angel:
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Ironically, you deny human agency in choosing a president but use a great deal of human agency to vilify those who oppose Trump. You are spending a lot of energy denigrating the presidency of Biden, who according to your perspective must have been duly ordained by God.

Here are some quotes (that I agree with) for you to ponder (if you will):
God is no more responsible for the election of Trump or any other presidents than God is responsible for the occurrence of cancer, school shootings, or natural disasters. Every event, including the election of a president, is the result of many factors rather than just one, whether divine or human.
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To assume the divine election of presidents encourages passivity and obedience and suggests that God has already decided the outcome so why bother to get involved, except ironically to increase our power or wealth! Like the literal doctrine of the second coming, the divine ordination of rulers robs us of agency, when we need it most.
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“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God.” This has to be seen in light of the whole library of scripture, including the critiques of governments by the prophets and the critique of Roman rulers found throughout Revelation.
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Theologically, the divine ordination of rulers is often identified in practice with the status quo, authoritarianism, persecution of opponents, and absolution of any evil committed by political leaders. It places the present and future in God’s hands entirely, discouraging prophetic critique, political challenge, and higher aspirations toward a “more perfect” union.
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The multi-factorial approach to divine-human relationships encourages, in contrast, acceptance of diverse positions, political challenge, and give and take between differing parties, based on the realities of human limitation and the diversity in how persons respond to God’s call. A multi-factorial approach to divine-human relationships and causation is more conducive to tolerance and democracy than the coercive, deterministic, authoritarian vision of God.
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I am content knowing that God has not chosen the next president or predecessor. This means that I can work with God to seek a more perfect union, advocate for public policies that reflect my understanding of God’s vision in a pluralistic society, and recognize even as advocate for particular candidates and policies that I “see in mirror dimly” and, accordingly, must not conflate my vision with God’s but always aspire for more wisdom, compassion, and insight.
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The full article that I took those quotes from is here Does God Choose The President Of The United States?

But if God were pulling the levers in the voting booth as you insist @unsafe that poses another question.

What does it mean that God is Independent?

I don’t know if that translates to more votes for #Kennedy, but I HOPE it does.
 
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unsafe said:
OH DEAR !---Same old stuff ----you really need to get a new line ---this one is very old ---you like to

Repeat --Repeat and Repeat---same old things --
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You're pretty predictable. What's the big problem answering the question? Just answer the dawned question and I'll drop it.

Redbaron said:
She wouldn't need to repeat it over and over, if you could simply answer her simple, straightforward question.
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Exactly. Frankly, I don't think she's capable. Her constant refrain only makes her look a fool.

WhyCzar said:
Ironically, you deny human agency in choosing a president but use a great deal of human agency to vilify those who oppose Trump. You are spending a lot of energy denigrating the presidency of Biden, who according to your perspective must have been duly ordained by God.
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Exactly! It's pretty convenient (or something) to think one person is ordained by god and another isn't.

I guess that's what happens when you follow a toxic theology.
 
Let us just say that all is open to assumption if you are of a state of wiles to accept directive without questioning wisdom and Sophia ... she too is condemned to the dark and thus under the cover of any closed book term! Wiles???? Maybe Cloe ... in due time ... wait for it! Then it strikes ... an unconscious item of worry, concern, bother, etc. like knowledge and sentient ... don't go there ... remain drained, a bit ignorant ... it may affiliate with trouble! Relations ... oh we can't have that!

It is like the story of Lucifer without the darker 's ide ... a wiped Michael ... ad continuum ... (err in writ). We don't know how it was initiated ... because of the great dark cloud! Un inspected history ... prescient!

It is a type of abstract ... as thought!
 
OH My ---It just Keeps getting better and better for Trump ---

Clarence Thomas Goes After Jack Smith in Supreme Court Ruling​

www.newsweek.com

Clarence Thomas goes after Jack Smith in Supreme Court ruling

Thomas questioned the legitimacy of Jack Smith's appointment as the Supreme Court ruled that Donald Trump is partially immune from prosecution.
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"I write separately to highlight another way in which this prosecution may violate our constitutional structure. In this case, the Attorney General purported to appoint a private citizen as Special Counsel to prosecute a former President on behalf of the United States. But, I am not sure that any office for the Special Counsel has been 'established by law," as the Constitution requires," Thomas wrote.

In an opinion that mirrors Trump's legal argument in his election interference case in Washington, D.C., and his classified documents hoarding case in Florida, Thomas suggested that Smith may have been unlawfully appointed.

-----Now Jack Smith will have to be investigated ------:cry::notworthy:===OH NO not That -----another Delay----and they just keep coming

More corruption being uncovered under Biden -----
 
SCOTUS needs a mandatory retirement age is what is needed. Our Supremes have to retire at 75 and removable by Parliament (well, technically the G-G but it would be done as a result of action by Parliament.).

From the Supreme Court's website:
A judge holds office during good behaviour until he or she retires or attains the age of 75 years, but is removable for incapacity or misconduct in office before that time by the Governor General on address of the Senate and House of Commons.
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Another perspective for @unsafe

From:Trump immunity ruling.

“Even if these nightmare scenarios never play out, and I pray they never do, the damage has been done. The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law.”
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Does a president now have complete control of the nuclear button, without consulting with his elected officials?
 
Back in the eighties, Don Henley included the lines:
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
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In The End of the Innocence (referring to Reagan at the time). So even then, there was a recognition that the President was basically an elected monarch in some respects. And from things I have read, that was kind of the intent, the executive power of a monarch but balanced by the other two branches and with some limits. That's where the whole power to pardon came from, which was a traditional right of European monarchs.
Waterfall said:
Does a president now have complete control of the nuclear button, without consulting with his elected officials?
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He always has, IIRC. He can't declare war without Congress but once a war is declared, using nukes is an executive and military, not legislative, decision. And, of course, the Iraq and Afghan campaigns were never declared as wars so who knows how far that carries even absent this decision?
 
Mendalla said:
Back in the eighties, Don Henley included the lines:

In The End of the Innocence (referring to Reagan at the time). So even then, there was a recognition that the President was basically an elected monarch in some respects. And from things I have read, that was kind of the intent, the executive power of a monarch but balanced by the other two branches and with some limits. That's where the whole power to pardon came from, which was a traditional right of European monarchs.

He always has, IIRC. He can't declare war without Congress but once a war is declared, using nukes is an executive and military, not legislative, decision. And, of course, the Iraq and Afghan campaigns were never declared as wars so who knows how far that carries even absent this decision?
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And shooting people at the borders? (Geesh my mind is working on a deranged level.)
 
Waterfall said:
And shooting people at the borders? (Geesh my mind is working on a deranged level.)
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Nothing, or technically should be nothing, to do with the President. Homeland Security should have governing legislation that defines the border guards' powers but not sure how that looks in practice. If they are considered law enforcement, then they likely have the authority to use force but with similar limits to police.
 
Mendalla said:
Nothing, or technically should be nothing, to do with the President. Homeland Security should have governing legislation that defines the border guards' powers but not sure how that looks in practice. If they are considered law enforcement, then they likely have the authority to use force but with similar limits to police.
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Hope so.
 
Remember the emperor with flaming control ... and the dragon could not be quenched because the population paradigm didn't know any better as the emperor took off with their psyche processing capability! Hush up Charlotte ... the fey male spirit within Charlie ...
 
Yet another Delay ---for Trump ----OH No Not That Again ------o_O


Trump's hush money sentencing delayed over immunity ...​


Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › ... › Courts & Law
 
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