What Legacy Does Trump Leave?
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chansen
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How? Christians got what they voted for - a Christian administration. This is exactly what they wanted.
The cruelty is not a bug - it's a feature. Same with the idolatry.
This is modern Christianity at work. Maybe it's not your version of Christianity, but it's popular. And it hates some people. People like trans people, poor people, people of non-European descent, people of other faiths, people of no faith, women who had sex and got pregnant outside of marriage or a stable relationship, and really, women in general.
Christians did this. Remember that. 80% of us atheists voted against this.
The cruelty is not a bug - it's a feature. Same with the idolatry.
This is modern Christianity at work. Maybe it's not your version of Christianity, but it's popular. And it hates some people. People like trans people, poor people, people of non-European descent, people of other faiths, people of no faith, women who had sex and got pregnant outside of marriage or a stable relationship, and really, women in general.
Christians did this. Remember that. 80% of us atheists voted against this.
Many Republicans are now starting to regret who they voted for.....not because they see how it's hurting others but how it's now hurting themselves.
If this is the moment Republican voters " get it" American democrats shouldn't just sit and gloat about it, they need to welcome them and join forces towards saving their constitution.
And Canadians should be learning from all this. IMO.
Get where you're coming from, chansen, but be fair. I think you're really talking about a specific group here, evangelical American Christian nationalists, rather than Christians as a whole.
Genuine Christianity is all about love and kindness, and it absolutely doesn't endorse cruelty towards anyone. It's really the actions of certain individuals that are the issue, not the religion itself.
That said, it's definitely true that some people have twisted the idea of 'Christian love' to justify being mean or cutting others off. It's horrid, but let's not lose sight of the core values that true Christianity stands for
Christianity and politics shouldnt mix IMO.
It just becomes another tool to draw in voters and twist it to say whatever works to get that vote.
chansen
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Nope. That fraction of the Christian pie may have been the most supportive, but all facets of American Christians, short of black mainline protestants, voted mostly for Trump.
This is what American Christianity wanted. Not just the evangelicals. All of American Christianity will have to take a good long look in the mirror when this is over. This is on them.
chansen
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And their families. I get it. But I don't have any sympathy left for them. They voted to hurt people. That they ended up hurting themselves was predictable, but they were too busy hating others to see that they were one of the targets.
This was all predictable. This is Trump's revenge tour, and Christianity's revenge tour.
At least we now agree that it was a segment of Christianity rather than the religion as a whole. As someone who pastors on the other side of the planet, I can assure you that it's not the whole faith
chansen
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What, about 2/3 of American Christianity wanted this, and that's good?
You bounce between some pretty f***ed up positions yourself. I have no real handle on what your beliefs or your politics are this week.
That one of the most Christian nations on Earth came to this decision, lead by Christians, is a warning sign. This is what Christianity can become. Anywhere.
Didn't say anything was.
I'm a Presbyterian, as I have been for close to half a decade now. Not sure what's "pretty f***ed up" about that.
Will write more later
Delightful Life
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oh wow. LLM created film? I LOVE the bearded ladies :3
Hey, I know of some ways of contacting them. Let me know if you want info on that :3Groan. I love how people voted for him somehow overlooking the fact that he's at least as unhinged as he was in 2020, maybe moreso. And now are having buyer's remorse in the worst way. Thanks to them and to the people who sat on their hands rather than voting for Kamala Harris, the whole world is basically f--ked for the next four years. If aliens abducted me today and took me to their home in a far-off solar system, I'd be asking about their immigration policies.
(and people voted for the Orange Pimple for many different reasons...just like we vote for anyone...this is Democracy...also these people shouldn't be surprised when the Leopards Eating Your Face Party actually follows through...)
The clock is ticking
Hopefully you have figured oot your ways and means in the time you have left?
That alas seems to be the way of our world? Could Christianity have survived without the blessing of the state? I don't know...
Plus with CSJ once permeating US gov't and culture, the extent to which it existed means Politics (of a certain sort imho) can not be a part of everything it touches...
There has already been an incident here at the ThriftStore tied to the Orange Pimple
Wish I had been there to talk with those involved...
I like people
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Another brick falls away
www.the-independent.com
Germany’s Merz takes swipe at Trump and calls for ‘independence from the USA’
Germany’s likely next chancellor has also questioned whether NATO will continue to exist
www.the-independent.com
Delightful Life
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Breaking News
Mump's PR Team working hard
Mump's PR Team working hard
Delightful Life
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i just saw this
Macron and Trump in a press conference
Lol at how Macron corrects and actually TOUCHES Trump's arm :3 Trump lost this one big and Macron shows his disdain for him.
#GoldenAge
Macron and Trump in a press conference
Lol at how Macron corrects and actually TOUCHES Trump's arm :3 Trump lost this one big and Macron shows his disdain for him.
#GoldenAge
Delightful Life
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Man, Vaush, Sam Seder, The Daily Show, Sam Pakman, the Young Turks are all on fire :3
In related news
A while ago The Orange Smurf was asked a series of would you release info on...
He hedged on Epstein Files
I wonder why?
In related news
A while ago The Orange Smurf was asked a series of would you release info on...
He hedged on Epstein Files
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On why it is illegal for Rump to Shut down USAID
Groan. I love how people voted for him somehow overlooking the fact that he's at least as unhinged as he was in 2020, maybe moreso. And now are having buyer's remorse in the worst way. Thanks to them and to the people who sat on their hands rather than voting for Kamala Harris, the whole world is basically f--ked for the next four years. If aliens abducted me today and took me to their home in a far-off solar system, I'd be asking about their immigration policies.
What is really insane is the directive to be silent if you can't say anything nice ... now tell me what the mental stray has said nice in recent decades ... decadent? What has changed ... so called adulterated without maturity? Something is going to boil and ruin the entire system ... then the wee creatures will start all over as algae ... and some my-cos ... relatives of mycosis ... thus wine from grapes! Somehow a Greek island got entangled ...
In short, we often can't explain what we say because of the forgotten portions ... denied history!
Can some Christians differentiate? Only enough to deny. eliminate and waste resources on defeating the divine abnormal ... anything that incarnates as diverse ... adulterated? Thus we remain as you know practically just born and some what ignorant ...
Can someone define somewhat, or is that indefinite as a word? Recall understanding the word (that's God) is said to be critical ... word bombs! This happens when they do not mature into decent thought ... indecency descends ... that's what it comes down to ... foul OCH when the donkey heels strike ...
Did someone get kicked over the dome ... that's dumb! I get this image of naked dew ... whet on the grass ... dampened vegetarians ...
Believe that faith calls us to grow.
The term "somewhat" allows for a range of possibilities. Our journey of faith is about seeking understanding.
Let's move beyond indecency. Together, we'll create a more inclusive world that reflects God's love