What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

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Northwind said:
Not alien. Not illegal. Undocumented immigrants. People who have committed crimes in some cases. Human beings in all cases.

Apparently you haven't learned anything about what Jesus taught about how to respond to the stranger.
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A :"stranger" in Jesus' day was not an "illegal alien."
 
Expanding Educational Freedom and Opportunity for Families

"A third executive order, Expanding Educational Freedom and Opportunity for Families, seeks to make available federal funding to expand education options for private, faith-based or public charter schools. The executive order argues that "well-designed education-freedom programs" improve student achievement while causing nearby public schools to improve their performance. "When our public education system fails such a large segment of society, it hinders our national competitiveness and devastates families and communities," it said."
 
The problem with making funding available for private, charter or faith-based schools is that it excludes many. Part of the reason these schools can look like they're superior is they get to choose who they admit as students. They don't have to take every child in the catchment area. Now struggling kids will have lower quality public schools, since money will likely be diverted from those schools to the private/charter/etc schools. It's one of those policies that looks like a good idea on paper. It has many problems in practice.
 
Northwind said:
The problem with making funding available for private, charter or faith-based schools is that it excludes many. Part of the reason these schools can look like they're superior is they get to choose who they admit as students. They don't have to take every child in the catchment area. Now struggling kids will have lower quality public schools, since money will likely be diverted from those schools to the private/charter/etc schools. It's one of those policies that looks like a good idea on paper. It has many problems in practice.
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It's still a massive upgrade over the sorrow state of our public schools. I expect it to use competition for funding and students to raise the standard of public schools over time. We need all the elite schools we can get.
 
Northwind said:
The problem with making funding available for private, charter or faith-based schools is that it excludes many. Part of the reason these schools can look like they're superior is they get to choose who they admit as students. They don't have to take every child in the catchment area. Now struggling kids will have lower quality public schools, since money will likely be diverted from those schools to the private/charter/etc schools. It's one of those policies that looks like a good idea on paper. It has many problems in practice.
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Would one of tendency to blind observation tend to build walls ... not realizing that they have TU sides? May answer the old statement and why they never learn ... vast confinements ... wooden cells ... there some baulk ... as we begin to observe there are 2 sides ... often seen as Black and White addiction with no grey, twilight or medium ... grey is sometimes exhibited as G url ... as when obscurity is hurled at yah as Yah Ova ... wrote on Rhodes?

Authorities have difficulty with this if instructed they have all the previous choked up ... choke 'd ... expect bones!
 
Mystic said:
It's still a massive upgrade over the sorrow state of our public schools. I expect it to use competition for funding and students to raise the standard of public schools over time. We need all the elite schools we can get.
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Pouring money into charter schools and "elite" schools has been happening for some time. It's one reason public schools are a mess. Fund public schools better and they will improve.
 
The concept that a school full of kids isn't scoring well, so give those kids less resources.....

That's such a shitty take, I don't know where to begin.

Hey, so if a McDonald's franchise isn't performing well, then the parent company doesn't give them a gold star, or refuses to fix their ice cream machine, sure.

But make kids suffer because the system failed them? So they fail harder? What the actual f***?
 
Northwind said:
Pouring money into charter schools and "elite" schools has been happening for some time. It's one reason public schools are a mess. Fund public schools better and they will improve.
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You miss the pont: Americans deserve aq choice. And Trump's drive to make charter schools affordable and available gives minorities the chance for a quality e4ducation that they generally can't g et in public schools.

"To help decide, dozens of constituents asked Professor Paul Reville, former secretary of education in Massachusetts, how they should vote. Reville was the chief architect of the Education Reform Act of 1993, which introduced chartering to Massachusetts, and he’s been an outspoken champion of charters since. But whenever someone asked, “What do you think of charter schools?” Reville was quick to respond, “Which school are we talking about?”

Are we talking about New York’s Success Academy or KIPP schools nationwide, perennially profiled examples of the best — charter, public, and private included — in the nation? Are we talking about any of the five Massachusetts charters that Senior Lecturer Kay Merseth, M.A.T.’69, Ed.D.’82, investigated in Inside Urban Charter Schools, wildly different in curricula, pedagogy, and mission, but all wildly successful? Are we talking about Boston-based Codman Academy, founded by Meg Campbell, C.A.S.’97, Ed.M.’05, where 100 percent of its students (98 percent minority) are accepted to college? Nationwide, while charters only educate 6 percent of the nation’s students, they regularly fill a third of U.S. News and World Report’s top 100 high schools."
 
Mystic said:
You miss the pont: Americans deserve aq choice. And Trump's drive to make charter schools affordable and available gives minorities the chance for a quality e4ducation that they generally can't g et in public schools.
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And you're missing my point. While that belief looks good on paper, it has some disastrous impacts in real life.

Every child needs a good education, not just those who can access those "elite" schools.
 
Northwind said:
And you're missing my point. While that belief looks good on paper, it has some disastrous impacts in real life.

Every child needs a good education, not just those who can access those "elite" schools.
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There are charter schools convenient to most Americans that are superior to the nearvb public schools.
Public schools need the competition of these charter schools to upgraded their education. If their outcomes remain poor, they should be s**t down.
Here, my friends spent a lot of time and money to build a youth center for tutoring high school kids and older who can't read!

One scourge of our public schools is social promotion. Kids who can't or won't learn to read are promoted anyway for mental health reasons.]
If they can't cut it, they should be held back and required to attend remedial summer school. Pressure and competition are essential to upgrading the quality of our children's education.
 
Pressure and competition can happen within public schools. It's crazy that a so called free country such as the US would have such disparity in outcomes. You can spew free market type language all you want. It doesn't make a private system of education or health care superior.
 
Mystic said:
One scourge of our public schools is social promotion. Kids who can't or won't learn to read are promoted anyway for mental health reasons.]
If they can't cut it, they should be held back and required to attend remedial summer school. Pressure and competition are essential to upgrading the quality of our children's education.
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One surefire way to kill a child's motivation to catch up to his or her class is to fail them and make them sit with a younger grade as they repeat that year.

Elementary school doesn't move that fast. For the honour roll students like my daughter, it moves too slow. We used to point out that she can do other things in the time she has. She took up drawing.

For students like my son, he's ASD and been particularly behind since the pandemic hit. He could have been failed in grade 1 or grade 2, but he wasn't. He's now catching up rapidly in grade 4. Were it up to you, you would have failed him and separated him from his peers. Again, you're not some education professional - you're just a jerk without a shred of empathy or actual faith in people. All your faith is tied up in the a**hole side of your God, having abandoned all the agreeable bits about him.
 
Again irrationality outraces common sense ... because its emotionally based and thus rages easily!

I audited an ethics course that the presenters favored emotional irrationality and chaos ... thus the lessor folk can be eliminated ... so they go!

Consequence with no one to carry out ζhit ... so it piles up ... eventually one smothers in eit ... few grasp! So swallow the thing ... that's all there is offered ... odd potion? Everything in life is owd ...
 
chansen said:
For the honour roll students like my daughter, it moves too slow. We used to point out that she can do other things in the time she has. She took up drawing.
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And as the antithesis of holding children back, it's not good to promote them beyond their grade level, either. Tends to cause similar social problems. Happened to me and my sibs. Having achieved basic reading skills and simple numeracy by the age of 3-4, I got busy teaching my sibs (one is high normal, the youngest smarter). We were way too advanced for early grades, so we all skipped grade 1.
 
BetteTheRed said:
And as the antithesis of holding children back, it's not good to promote them beyond their grade level, either. Tends to cause similar social problems. Happened to me and my sibs. Having achieved basic reading skills and simple numeracy by the age of 3-4, I got busy teaching my sibs (one is high normal, the youngest smarter). We were way too advanced for early grades, so we all skipped grade 1.
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Did grades 3 and 4 in one school year at my local elementary school before being bussed for grades 5-8 for middle school in advancement classes. For me, that was a huge mistake. I went from being one of the smartest kids in school to perhaps being one of the least. I was shy and didn't do all that great socially. I did have a small group of friends, though. High school was even worse. I went to my local high school, away from my friends. In high school, I was invisible
 
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