Waterfall your quote -----God's Grace has always existed. It existed within the Old Covenant and exists within the New Covenant
unsafe says ----I agree ----Grace always existed -----
unsafe says --and posted scripture
Grace is not a thing ---Grace is a person ------Jesus is Grace -----
only begotten of the Father, full of grace -----Jesus is God's Grace personified
John1:14-18 NKJV -----The Word Becomes Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the
only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
17 For the law was given through Moses,
but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
Titus 2 NKJV -----Trained by Saving Grace
11 For the
grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Your Quote -----Grace is irresistible
-----unsafe says ----
This is mot my view -----my view is we have free will to choose -----
definition
Irresistible grace(or efficacious
grace) is a doctrine in
Christian theology particularly associated with Calvinism, which teaches that the saving grace of
God is effectually applied to those whom He has determined to save (the elect) and, in God's timing, overcomes their resistance to obeying the call of the gospel, ...
Your Quote -----but our response to Grace is to keep God's laws......of which Jesus came to increase not remove
unsafe says ----and posted scripture
Why would Jesus come to increase the laws of Moses when the laws were put in place to increase sin -------God brought the laws in to show the Jews they couldn't keep them and He added the Curse as their punishment for disobeying the laws -----He did all this to show them they needed a Saviour to Save them as they couldn't do that on their own -------
Romans 5:20 GW
20 The laws in
Moses’ Teachings were added to increase the failure -----
unsafe says ---and posted scripture
Jesus came break the Curse of the Law by Fulfilling the Law ------
Matthew 5 :17
King James Bible
Think not that I am come to destroy the law
, or the prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Your Quote ----So if a preacher is loving God and loving others through actions/deeds and how he lives , he/she is most likely responding to God's grace.
unsafe says
Only if the Preacher has the Holy Spirit Waterfall ----otherwise the Preacher is away from God -------and no good deeds will save you ----Jesus is the only one who can save a person --Being a loving person and Loving others without the Holy Spirit is Fruitless in God's eyes -----and the Human Spirit is unable to love unconditionally ------Agape is a fruit of the Spirit ------
The Law keeps people in bondage ----you have to do to get God to move ---you have to keep the laws and no human can ----Keep the law get the Blessing ---Disobey the law and get the Curse ----
Under Grace we do nothing to get God to move because Jesus paid the price for us all and we can either reject what Jesus has done or receive what Jesus has done ----we are freed from preforming the laws -----Jesus put and end to the Curse by fulfilling the Law
unsafe says and posted scripture ---
So now I will complete the Scripture I posted above above ---Romans 5:20 GW to include the rest of it ------and verse 21
20 The laws in
Moses’ Teachings were added to increase the failure ----But where sin increased, God’s kindness increased even more.
21
As sin ruled by bringing death, God’s kindness would rule by bringing us his approval. This results in our living forever because of Jesus Christ our Lord.
unsafe says ----and posted scripture
God created the laws ----
the laws are good and perfect ---the problem with them is that humans were unable to keep them -----The Mosaic Covenant was not a Good Covenant ------
If the first covenant had been without fault, it wouldn’t have made sense to expect a second.8 But God did find fault with them
Hebrews 8:7-13 CEB
7
If the first covenant had been without fault, it wouldn’t have made sense to expect a second.8 But God did find fault with them, since he says,
Look, the days are coming, says the Lord,
when I will make a covenant with the house of Israel,
and I will make a new covenant with the house of Judah.
9
It will not be like the covenant that I made with their ancestors
on the day I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt,
because they did not continue to keep my covenant,
and I lost interest in them, says the Lord.
10
This is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
after those days, says the Lord.
I will place my laws in their minds,
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11
And each person won’t ever teach a neighbor
or their brother or sister, saying,“
Know the Lord,”
because they will all know me,
from the least important of them to the most important;
12 because I will be lenient toward their unjust actions,
and I won’t remember their sins anymore.[
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13
When it says new, it makes the first obsolete. And if something is old and outdated, it’s close to disappearing.
unsafe says -----and posted scripture
So here we see in the scripture above ----The first covenant God was not pleased with ------The new covenant God remembers our sins no more -----and God makes the Old Covenant obsolete ---says it is outdated and is close to disappearing -----Jesus died and it no longer in use -----God has written the laws on our heart
now and Grace is in place to help us live a righteous life ------
Before the laws came into effect ----there was no sin charged to people by God ------only the Blessings were in Place -----the Law brought in the Curse --and make people see their sin -----..
verse 13 of scripture below ----13
Sin was in the world before there were any laws.
But no record of sin can be kept when there are no laws. ---
This is the same verse but from the AMP Bible
-----13 Sin was [committed] in the world before the Law [was given], but sin is not charged [against anyone] when there is no law [against it].
Romans 5:8 -13 GW
8 Christ died for us while we were still sinners. This demonstrates God’s love for us.
9 Since Christ’s blood has now given us God’s approval, we are even more certain that Christ will save us from God’s anger.
10 If the death of his Son restored our relationship with God while we were still his enemies, we are even more certain that, because of this restored relationship, the life of his Son will save us.11 In addition, our Lord Jesus Christ lets us continue to brag about God. After all, it is through Christ that we now have this restored relationship with God.
A Comparison between Adam and Christ
12 Sin came into the world through one person, and death came through sin. So death spread to everyone, because everyone sinned.
13 Sin was in the world before there were any laws. But no record of sin can be kept when there are no laws.
unsafe says -----
The New Covenant has vast things to offer to God's Children -----only the Blessings are left in place ---that is all the Blessings in Deuteronomy 28
Jesus has paid the price all we have to do is receive them and we need to keep Satan --the destroyer --- at bay ----and God tells us how to do Just that in His word
Jesus is Grace and moved on our behalf ----so we don't have to be in bondage to works to get God to gives us the Blessings ----The Blessings are already in Place for all God's Children ------As are All Spiritual Blessings -------
What a wonderful thing this is ------For all Born Again People -------
Please Note ---------
Now all this being said -----
for unbelievers the Law is still in place they are still under the Blessings and the Curse -----
So when the law is being Preached the Church needs to be told the difference between what is in place for Believers and unbelievers ----Salvation means Free from the laws ------Past --Present and Future Sins are forgiven ------you are free from sin and death -----only the Blessings are in place as opposed to unbelievers who are still in bondage to sin and death--under the Law ----their sins are not forgiven ----and because they can't keep the laws only the Curse is in place -----
unsafe posted scripture ---
1 Timothy 1:3-10 GW ----
A Warning about False Teachers ----read all here ----
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+1:3-10&version=GW
8 We know that the laws in Moses’ Teachings are good if they are used as they were intended to be used.9
For example, a person must realize that those laws are not intended for people who have God’s approval. Laws are intended for lawbreakers and rebels, for ungodly people and sinners,
unsafe felt this was important to post
Salvation in Greek is
4991. sótéria
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Strong's Concordance
sótéria: deliverance, salvation
Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: sótéria
Phonetic Spelling

so-tay-ree'-ah)
Short Definition: --- deliverance, salvation
Definition:------
welfare,
prosperity,
deliverance, preservation,
salvation, safety.
unsafe says
There is that dirty word that many hate to see -----
prosperity
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 4991sōtēría(
from4982/sṓzō, ---"to save, rescue") –
salvation, i.e.
God's rescue which delivers believers out of destruction and into His safety. ---------
See 4982 (sōzō).
4982. sózó
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Strong's Concordance
sózó: to save
Original Word:σῴζω
Part of Speech:Verb
Transliteration:sózó
Phonetic Spelling

sode'-zo)
Short Definition:I save, heal
Definition:I
save,
heal,
preserve, rescue.get well (2), made...well
There is the word heal -------
HELPS Word-studies
4982sṓzō(from
sōs, "safe, rescued") –
properly, deliver out of danger and into safety; used principally of God rescuing believers from the penalty and power of sin –and into His provisions(safety).
unsafe says ----
The New Covenant of Jesus Christ or Grace encompasses a lot -----and it is not Preached as it should be ------- in my opinion
I leave with this scripture ----read all here if interested ---
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 7:1-13&version=CEB
Romans 7:1-13Common English Bible (CEB)
Freedom from the Law
The function of the Law
Living under the Law
Have to post this verse 6-----
But now we have been released from the Law. We have died with respect to the thing that controlled us, so that we can be slaves in the new life under the Spirit, not in the old life under the written Law.