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airclean33 said:
-- Hi Blackbelt , I am not sure if I got ,the right meaning hear. The Cross was needed" because of the law". It dose away with the law. for the law is death. Christ Jesus fulfilled the law to sett us free. Do you really believe that going through life . We who are saved would make it , unless we are not under the law.
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airclean33 said:
--Hi Jae , When God came to Abraham telling hit to take his only son and sacrifice him. He said who is this . GOD said you know my voice. Since my meeting with HIM that changed my life" , I two know", His voice .
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Who did He tell you to kill?
 
Neo said:

While the invitation of grace may be unmerited, it stands as open invitation for all us. What grace is not, I believe, is an invitation to some private and exclusive club that only those that God has recognized as members are welcome to. This idea, imo, is total misunderstanding of who the "elect" are.
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And I believe grace doesn't necessarily require an invitation. That is demonstrated by the fact that God does not bless one at the expense of another. He blesses both Jews and the gentiles. Jesus heals the "unclean"woman who touched Him and continues on to Jairus' daughter. It would seem that by stopping to speak with the "unclean" woman to find out why she touched Him had delayed Jesus from reaching Jairus' daughter while she was still alive. Instead He continued on to raise Jairus' daughter from the dead.
So Jesus heals a woman who was declared unclean through the law and then moves on to Jairus', who was a righteous and devout Jewish leader, and resurrects his daughter.
Salvation and resurrection was given to both gentile and Jew.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
that is what i said yes
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Mat 12:5

Or have you not read in the law how on the sabbath the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are guiltless?


Jhn 1:17

Act 13:37but he whom God raised up saw no corruption.
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Act 13:38Let it be known to you therefore, brethren, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,
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Act 13:39and by him every one that believes is freed from everything from which you could not be freed by the law of Moses.
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
Rom 4:14If it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void.
Rom 7:4Likewise, my brethren, you have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead in order that we may bear fruit for God.
 
Waterfall said:
The woman had uncontrollable bleeding, probably related to menstruation. She would have been considered unclean.
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I was just hoping to get you to read the three accounts again. I don't know where you get gentile, or unclean, but presumably ceremonial uncleanliness would only apply to a Jew, or any Jew the bleeder touched.
 
Regarding giving money to the poor, I can understand why airclean and blackbelt hold the positions they do, and I know quite a few more people who agree, but I hold a different opinion. Can both opinions be right, or am I wrong?
 
chansen said:
Who did He tell you to kill?
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--To Kill? We are ask to help those who are dying. I know your belief Chanson. I worn you if you die without Christ Jesus. You will regret it for ever.
He Lives even today as yesterday. He is my JUDGE," an yours.
 
airclean33 said:
--To Kill? We are ask to help those who are dying.
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Exactly. The voice you said spoke to you, asked Abraham to help his son die. Your God has a habit of ordering people to their deaths. Just wondering if he put you on his hit squad or not.

airclean33 said:
I know your belief Chanson. I worn you if you die without Christ Jesus. You will regret it for ever.
He Lives even today as yesterday. He is my JUDGE," an yours.
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Your heavenly supervisor is not mine, and the way you paint him, I'm not interested. You're happy that you have a murderous prick for a deity. I'm happy there is no reason to believe in your murderous prick of a deity.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
Regarding giving money to the poor, I can understand why airclean and blackbelt hold the positions they do, and I know quite a few more people who agree, but I hold a different opinion. Can both opinions be right, or am I wrong?
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--Hi Pontifex Geronimo --I don't believe so ,if that's what GOD has told you. He also has told me to cross the st and give that man $10,00. I don't ask why , what I have belongs to GOD. Even this life He has given me.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
I was just hoping to get you to read the three accounts again. I don't know where you get gentile, or unclean, but presumably ceremonial uncleanliness would only apply to a Jew, or any Jew the bleeder touched.
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Interesting point. (y) Does Jesus deny the one who didn't follow the law and favour the one who did? Or vice versa?
 
chansen said:
Exactly. The voice you said spoke to you, asked Abraham to help his son die. Your God has a habit of ordering people to their deaths. Just wondering if he put you on his hit squad or not.

Airclean--post--
It's funny you never seem to tell the hole truth Chansen. That really is the way it is, because you follow the father, of false teacher's. You see GOD never let Abraham hurt his son. But I believe GOD found purity in the man He had chosen to becoming the Father of the chose people. He GOD had made many promises to Abraham. This day He made one more . through His line world come the Savior of the world. He would provide The Lamb.
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