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Pinga said:
Jae has once again successfully derailed a thread through his lies.
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That's quite an accusation Pinga. I'm here in this thread to discuss weight loss, same as everyone else. You may not welcome my presence, but please do not make false accusations against me.
 
Jae said:
That's quite an accusation Pinga. I'm here in this thread to discuss weight loss, same as everyone else. You may not welcome my presence, but please do not make false accusations against me.
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Who initiated the lie in down ?
 
Tabitha said:
Jae is a lying snake unable to accept responsibility for his lies. He is unfit to be a pastor or a teacher.
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So you say Tabitha.

You seem really invested in something I said in May, so let's deal with that. Since I said it honestly believing it to be the truth, it was not a lie. What I will confess to having made is an error.

There is a difference between a lie and an error Tabitha, and I don't believe that there's anyone here who has never made an error.
 
Two things.

When I first joined wondercafe many moons ago I learned about the acronym DNFTT. It stands for "do not feed the troll". In short it reminds us, when posted, to not engage the individual trolling or derailing the thread. This may be a time to post "DNFTT" to remind the community not to reward troll-like behaviour.

Second thing. I recently read an amazing book called "Fit at Midlife: A Feminist Fitness Journey". It is an excellent book written by two Ontario professors who remind women that fitness is both key feminist issue and an important determinant of health. More importantly, it also reminds women that fitness and body size may have little to do with one another. Women can be large, even overweight (a la BMI, which has issues in terms of a measurement tool, but I digress) but be very healthy and fit. It encourages women to avoid focusing on developing a "bikini body" and to focus on being strong and healthy instead. I cannot recommend this book enough.

https://www.amazon.ca/Fit-Mid-Life-Feminist-Fitness-Journey/dp/1771641673
 
DaisyJane said:
Two things.

When I first joined wondercafe many moons ago I learned about the acronym DNFTT. It stands for "do not feed the troll". In short it reminds us, when posted, to not engage the individual trolling or derailing the thread. This may be a time to post "DNFTT" to remind the community not to reward troll-like behaviour.

Second thing. I recently read an amazing book called "Fit at Midlife: A Feminist Fitness Journey". It is an excellent book written by two Ontario professors who remind women that fitness is both key feminist issue and an important determinant of health. More importantly, it also reminds women that fitness and body size may have little to do with one another. Women can be large, even overweight (a la BMI, which has issues in terms of a measurement tool, but I digress) but be very healthy and fit. It encourages women to avoid focusing on developing a "bikini body" and to focus on being strong and healthy instead. I cannot recommend this book enough.

https://www.amazon.ca/Fit-Mid-Life-Feminist-Fitness-Journey/dp/1771641673
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It sounds like a good book DaisyJane. Fitness and health are so vital. I can say that since I started losing weight in March I've certainly felt a lot healthier, and have noticed that I have more energy. It has really helped at work.
 
I am glad to hear. The idea is that perhaps we need to focus on themes such as healthy living, healthy diet, regular exercise, and not the numbers on our scales. Though weight loss and healthy living/exercise often go hand in hand, ideally we ought to make healthy living the goal, not weight loss. As a rule I do not step on a scale. I don't know what I weigh and don't care. I DO know that I am in relatively good shape for a 50 year old woman. I run, hike, play soccer, and work out a gym. I am not thin and have never been thin, but I can play soccer with women (and men) my children's age.

I exercise at a gym and refused to meet with a trainer (as part of my membership) because I know from experience their focus almost always is on weight and body measurements. I refuse to buy into the idea that my health is defined by those numbers - particularly when there is good research that suggests otherwise.
 
DaisyJane said:
I am glad to hear. The idea is that perhaps we need to focus on themes such as healthy living, healthy diet, regular exercise, and not the numbers on our scales. Though weight loss and healthy living/exercise often go hand in hand, ideally we ought to make healthy living the goal, not weight loss. As a rule I do not step on a scale. I don't know what I weigh and don't care. I DO know that I am in relatively good shape for a 50 year old woman. I run, hike, play soccer, and work out a gym. I am not thin and have never been thin, but I can play soccer with women (and men) my children's age.

I exercise at a gym and refused to meet with a trainer (as part of my membership) because I know from experience their focus almost always is on weight and body measurements. I refuse to buy into the idea that my health is defined by those numbers - particularly when there is good research that suggests otherwise.
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It sounds like you are on a good path DaisyJane. Blessings to you as you travel it.
 
Really, the only way to be small is to start small, and even then, it creeps up. I weighed 95 pounds soaking wet well into my 20s. I am still not heavy, and not a large woman, although it's sorta "redistributed" with age; my arms and legs seem to get thinner each year, while the torso gets more resolutely apple-shaped. I eat whatever I want. I'm very fond of bacon and olive oil, and nice bread. My exercise regimen comprises endless hours walking a high energy dog, and yoga, or chi gong, or tai chi (as the spirit moves me; I quite like the "lifted yoga" offered at the local vape lounge, headed by my daughter or her best friend) to keep me flexible-ish.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Really, the only way to be small is to start small, and even then, it creeps up. I weighed 95 pounds soaking wet well into my 20s. I am still not heavy, and not a large woman, although it's sorta "redistributed" with age; my arms and legs seem to get thinner each year, while the torso gets more resolutely apple-shaped. I eat whatever I want. I'm very fond of bacon and olive oil, and nice bread. My exercise regimen comprises endless hours walking a high energy dog, and yoga, or chi gong, or tai chi (as the spirit moves me; I quite like the "lifted yoga" offered at the local vape lounge, headed by my daughter or her best friend) to keep me flexible-ish.
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Even if one starts small, there is no guarantee that one is going to stay small. I was too thin in highschool. That contributed to the way I was treated there. It was only about 15 years ago that I ballooned up to my largest size ever.
 
DaisyJane said:
I recently read an amazing book called "Fit at Midlife: A Feminist Fitness Journey". It is an excellent book written by two Ontario professors who remind women that fitness is both key feminist issue and an important determinant of health. More importantly, it also reminds women that fitness and body size may have little to do with one another. Women can be large, even overweight (a la BMI, which has issues in terms of a measurement tool, but I digress) but be very healthy and fit. It encourages women to avoid focusing on developing a "bikini body" and to focus on being strong and healthy instead. I cannot recommend this book enough.

https://www.amazon.ca/Fit-Mid-Life-Feminist-Fitness-Journey/dp/1771641673
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I'm not yet "mid-life" which the book description describes as 40s/50s but I'm excited by the concept of this book and appreciate that it's written by Canadians. My library has it so I'm going to check it out. Thanks, DJ.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Really, the only way to be small is to start small, and even then, it creeps up. I weighed 95 pounds soaking wet well into my 20s. I am still not heavy, and not a large woman, although it's sorta "redistributed" with age; my arms and legs seem to get thinner each year, while the torso gets more resolutely apple-shaped. I eat whatever I want. I'm very fond of bacon and olive oil, and nice bread. My exercise regimen comprises endless hours walking a high energy dog, and yoga, or chi gong, or tai chi (as the spirit moves me; I quite like the "lifted yoga" offered at the local vape lounge, headed by my daughter or her best friend) to keep me flexible-ish.
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It's more difficult, but I know of people who were in the overweight category for most of their childhood, but stuck with a normal BMI later. Medical issues can also have a big impact on weight, in either direction.
 
It can get complex when you juggle several ongoing health problems, pain, meds etc. Weight bearing exercise is recommended for condition One but contra indicated for condition Two. Some meds being taken have a tendency to increase weight unless there is an uptick in vigorous exercise. So - some people criticise the growing waistline - while doctor says s/he is impressed with the small amount of increased weight.
 
It’s a struggle for me

I dislike the 20 pounds that creeps up in me over a year or two. It never gets more but I don’t like. I don’t like a bulgy waist

I try to watch calories. I know if I cut all alcohol and it’s calories it would likely shed quickly

And I know I am caught up in the fictional female ideal body. But there I sit

I look at gorgeous stars and their perfect shapes. I know they have trainers and staff and drivers and ......... and they don’t grocery shop on an empty stomach cause they have been busy all day. They don’t grab a KitKat to eat while driving home

And I know that I look fairly fit. But I still feel unhappy about the creep.

It is as annoying as hell
 
BetteTheRed said:
Absolutely. If I lost my walking ability, I'd also lose most of my exercise potential...
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Well, also in the 'start small' aspect. Someone may have been larger for a while at a young age due to a med, or a condition that changes later in life. Or the opposite, they started bigger but then later on develop a medical condition and have trouble keeping/putting weight on.
 
Being humble is like Asclepios for people in the expansive mode … is just doesn't cut IT both ways … divine separation of the two pieces after having got it together? From then they will be two faces of darkness … like Caduceus … tragic comedians … screwed ?
 
Still have 2 roll me in flour to find the wet spot
Where the Interface cable fits
Not quite at Vladimir Harkonnen level yet
Always a thorse, never an Atreidies :cry:
 
Then there is Roger Bacon … yes the Pig was once an icon of good luck as the last woman at the bar … never turn down the ugly one when the last one standing! In the dark chi could be a booty!
 
Lastpointe said:
It’s a struggle for me

I dislike the 20 pounds that creeps up in me over a year or two. It never gets more but I don’t like. I don’t like a bulgy waist

I try to watch calories. I know if I cut all alcohol and it’s calories it would likely shed quickly

And I know I am caught up in the fictional female ideal body. But there I sit

I look at gorgeous stars and their perfect shapes. I know they have trainers and staff and drivers and ......... and they don’t grocery shop on an empty stomach cause they have been busy all day. They don’t grab a KitKat to eat while driving home

And I know that I look fairly fit. But I still feel unhappy about the creep.

It is as annoying as hell
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I hear you on this one - me too!! I see the body of my mother & my aunt now when I look in the mirror ...

I recently started going to an exercise class called "Essentrics" - I really like it. Developed by a former dancer as she aged, worked with a physio, has some pilates related moves, tai chi related moves ... interesting. Working the whole body to keep muscles long & lean, joints mobile, bones strong. There's a website with some videos & she also has a show on PBS - 5:30 in the morning - so I tape it & use it for some stretches.
 
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