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So, who will it be? And how?

  • Donald Trump (in a vain attempt at holding on to power)

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Donald Trump (fair and square)

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Joe Biden (clear win)

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Joe Biden (after a lengthy battle with Trump in the courts)

    Votes: 3 42.9%

  • Mike Pence (after Trump storms out in a huff)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kamala Harris (after Biden keels over in shock after actually winning a clean victory)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I neither know nor care

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I like polls

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .
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Well here is one for you folks ----no matter who these ballots were for they didn't get counted in the election ----and this is what needs to be exposed and corrected -----and it is only because of Trump that these errors are being brought to the forefront -----apparently means about 800 votes for Trump were not posted according to this 1 and a half min video ------
I wonder how many more we will here about ---?????

NOV 16 ---Secretary of State's Office said 2,600 uncounted ballots were uncovered in Floyd County during the Georgia election audit.

 
A.) It has been exposed and corrected. The lead in votes may be smaller but Biden still carried the state.

B.) The recount was the state's idea.
unsafe said:
and it is only because of Trump that these errors are being brought to the forefront
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Nope. Trump had nothing to do with bringing about the recount. That was the state of Georgia's call to make.
 
Redbaron said:
Trump had nothing to do with bringing about the recount.
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Federal law requires states to deliver certified electoral college results to the vice president, serving as president of the Senate, and other parties by the fourth Wednesday in December; in the year 2020 that date falls on December 23.


What happens if a state misses that deadline and it can’t agree on a way to handle a faithless elector? Or there is a dispute over the election winner between the state lawmakers and a governor, for example?


The federal statute 3 U.S.C. §12, 13 requires the vice president or the Archivist of the United States to compel “secretary of state or equivalent officer” of that state to send the certified election results to Congress, using direct mail or a messenger sent to a federal judge in the state in question, if the judge has the certified election results.


Congress counts the electoral votes (January 6, 2021)


Also under federal law, a joint session of Congress is required by the 12th Amendment to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the presidential election. That joint session of Congress is held on January 6, 2021 at 1 p.m.


When the results from each state are announced, a member of the House and Senate can jointly object, in writing, to the election results from that state. The House and Senate then adjourn for up to one hour to consider the objection; if both bodies agree to uphold the objection, the votes are excluded from the election results under the terms of the Electoral Count Act of 1887.


There are several scenarios that could allow for this final vote count to be delayed in Congress. One scenario would be if House and Senate agree to exclude a state’s electoral votes, which would then result in a candidate not having the majority of electoral votes. Another would be a faithless elector causing a tie in the electoral college voting.


The 12th Amendment then calls for run-off or contingent elections in the House (to select a president) and the Senate (to select a vice president). Those elections would need to be finished by 12 p.m. on January 20, 2021 for the next president and vice president to take their oaths of office. If that does not happen, the Speaker of the House would serve as president until Congress certifies a winner of the 2020 presidential election.


Scott Bomboy is the editor in chief of the National Constitution Center.
 
Federal law mandates the delivery of certified totals in such a manner. Federal law, however, doesn't deal with recounts on a state level. That is covered by state law. The claim was that Trump was responsible for causing the recount. That claim is inaccurate.
 
Is inaccuracy rampant given our tendency towards forgetting and not wishing to know intelligence that is beyond our capacity ... due to a spectra of causes?

Could that be labelled irrational ...
 
As a corollary to forgetting bad news ... if put it out of sight in a blind Aries (area, dimension) could we begin electing bad NU's in preference to the alter form?

This may resemble the grief curve as may be known as "U" or even a "V" if taking a sharper turn in the downs ...

The entire bent may start with a shock event ... and bottom out around acceptance and an upturn ...recall all is fair in love and such conflicts in a world of hate! In the dark it may be difficult to tell if the shadowy lady is a fair Jinn ...

Thus the lighter collapses ... kinda like eros and arrows ... all cupid's tuff ...
 
This is interesting to explore --if interested -----if you scroll down on this sight you can choose a state and it show the fraud for different years in different states -----


www.heritage.org

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz
www.heritage.org www.heritage.org

A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States​

The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. This database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances that are not investigated or prosecuted. It is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed. In addition to diluting the votes of legitimate voters, fraud can have an impact in close elections, and we have many close elections in this country. Preventing, deterring, and prosecuting election fraud is essential to protecting the integrity of our voting process. Reforms intended to ensure such integrity do not disenfranchise voters and, in fact, protect their right to vote. Winning elections leads to political power and the incentives to take advantage of security vulnerabilities are great, so it is important that we take reasonable steps to make it hard to cheat, while making it easy for legitimate voters to vote
 
To love the world you're in one should learn to hate the corruption ... rather than get overly attached to the oversight!

So seem to b unsafely attached in the wrong directive ... what Einstein called a tensor! It may be expressed as a strange icon ... and you know how folks are about xenophobes ...

Did you ever share a drink with a stranger UNSAFE? Bet that bugs you as well as any insects ...
 
the 1 min video says -------The County's Election Director has been ask to step down ------

17 Nov 2020

Election coverage | Here's the latest on the uncounted ballots in Floyd County​


 
Voter Fraud and charges laid in California Folks

17 Nov 2020

BREAKING: VOTER FRAUD Uncovered in California​

 
unsafe, you posted information about the same mistake twice. An elections officer ran into an error while uploading a single data stick, with 2400 votes on it (or perhaps neglected to upload it; either work, and if you've ever worked an election, which my sister has, you realize those are exhausting days, and exhausted workers, and the odd mistake gets made). Of those 2400 votes, only 800 (1/3) were for Trump. So if this was a deliberate error meant to prove that Trump should have won, it in fact, its inclusion swayed the results in Biden's favour, once corrected.

So your point is? Yeah, there's some random error. But random error doesn't favour either party. If truly random (which the above sample "proves"), random error means that it affects both sides equally. I can try and give you some instruction in basic stats, but it might not be of interest to you. Statistics is NOT about opinions, but about how information distributes itself.

If there's a clear winner, which there seems to be, by BOTH popular vote and Electoral College, which 2016 did not enjoy, losing the popular vote to HRC, but winning the Electoral College, what we will find out, is that, if any errors are found, and they will be, because humans are, duh, humans, they will tend to "fine tune" the clear original results. Which, [not] curiously, they have, thus far.
 
BetteTheRed said:
unsafe, you posted information about the same mistake twice. An elections officer ran into an error while uploading a single data stick, with 2400 votes on it (or perhaps neglected to upload it; either work, and if you've ever worked an election, which my sister has, you realize those are exhausting days, and exhausted workers, and the odd mistake gets made). Of those 2400 votes, only 800 (1/3) were for Trump. So if this was a deliberate error meant to prove that Trump should have won, it in fact, its inclusion swayed the results in Biden's favour, once corrected.

So your point is? Yeah, there's some random error. But random error doesn't favour either party. If truly random (which the above sample "proves"), random error means that it affects both sides equally. I can try and give you some instruction in basic stats, but it might not be of interest to you. Statistics is NOT about opinions, but about how information distributes itself.

If there's a clear winner, which there seems to be, by BOTH popular vote and Electoral College, which 2016 did not enjoy, losing the popular vote to HRC, but winning the Electoral College, what we will find out, is that, if any errors are found, and they will be, because humans are, duh, humans, they will tend to "fine tune" the clear original results. Which, [not] curiously, they have, thus far.
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Do you suppose there is an unsafe, or dangerous conspiracy as an anti federation movement ... sometimes known as CON federate rebellion?

These folks just don;t like an alternate leading power ... levite, lighter or anything that isn't heavy handed in their favour!
 
Here's a good commentary on corruption in politics.


A summary is that corruption is built into the system because the system was built by people.

The video is about 15 minutes long.

So @unsafe your apparent belief that trump will have a second term is of course based on faulty logic
 
Trump tweeted that Michigan blocked certification of the results. But - after the backlash -then they voted to unblock and certify. Biden is the certified and declared winner in Michigan. Trump has yet to tweet a correction.

Trump fired - by tweet - the head of cyber security and infrastructure - because that person said that the election was more secure than ever and there was no evidence of widespread fraud. Classy. It looks like he's mounting a clown-coup in plain sight.

In Georgia, the recount is going smoothly. There is a discrepancy over about 2500 (2600?) mail in votes is what I read. It's far under the threshold required to flip the state even if all of them were deemed to be for Trump.
 
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