US Election result?

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So, who will it be? And how?

  • Donald Trump (in a vain attempt at holding on to power)

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Donald Trump (fair and square)

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Joe Biden (clear win)

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Joe Biden (after a lengthy battle with Trump in the courts)

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • Mike Pence (after Trump storms out in a huff)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kamala Harris (after Biden keels over in shock after actually winning a clean victory)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I neither know nor care

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I like polls

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .
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Can a sitting president be charged with sedition? Or is he allowed to incite the crowds and encourage rebellion without any consequence?
 
Can a sitting president be charged with sedition? Or is he allowed to incite the crowds and encourage rebellion without any consequence?
The office of President is effective immunity against everything other than "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" Congress can impeach for those (as this current congress has) only the Senate can remove an impeached President (as this current Senate has refused to do).

Once the office of President is no longer a shield it will be up to respective Prosecutors to determine whether or not any criminal charges will be laid.

I suspect that there will be a number of charges laid against Trump within hours of Biden taking the Oath of Office. Most will likely be related to matters prior to his Presidency. I do not expect his rantings while in office to result in any charges simply because Republicans have been loathe to contradict him for any reason. Ted Cruz who sat dumbly by while Trump insulted his wife's appearance and insinuated that his dad was in on the JFK assassination was willing to speak on his defence in the Supreme Court over the election steal lie.

Dems will be happy just to have Trump sidelined and out of the way.
 
Remember the power of free will confuses the issues of duty to self and the larger self as well as the responsibility to this duality ... leading to further fractionings of a mind-self (soul) that go in only one direction due to failures in other parts of the great matric! Broken up this might be matrix ... or even an aught ... like nothing in space. Species of bumps in the dark ...

Yes I do believe some leaders suffer these aberrations ... especially general at the top, due to large Eire ... or big heads ...

Thank maw-gogue they know not of what I speak of connecting ends ... that tying up of what lies there ... in a state of naivete ... simulateing something departed!

Powers will deny this ... as they would rather you to be unknowing about their processes and actions ... for fear of reactions of nature.

Sometimes this leads to denial that nature exists ... rejected like natural soul ... knock-offs?

Furthermore great powers despise complexity of nature and thus flat out put-downs without expectations of back-flash! Plain stupidity ... as if something is missing in that complex (sometimes seen as a wild matrice; 3 mother thingy).

This could lead to in nis killing ... a celtic hard place like the spook in your dungeon! May include WJF Spooknindorf III under alternate labels ... as you may claim it as a function of inque 'n, of f(ink) a rendered down! May be an Aaron feature ... thin compared to what's underfoot! Pneumas ...

Maybe NU Mass ... if NU's who'd accept if it was already embedded alternately ... you can get an indication by the b'd-jumping nature!
 
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The office of President is effective immunity against everything other than "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" Congress can impeach for those (as this current congress has) only the Senate can remove an impeached President (as this current Senate has refused to do).

Once the office of President is no longer a shield it will be up to respective Prosecutors to determine whether or not any criminal charges will be laid.

I suspect that there will be a number of charges laid against Trump within hours of Biden taking the Oath of Office. Most will likely be related to matters prior to his Presidency. I do not expect his rantings while in office to result in any charges simply because Republicans have been loathe to contradict him for any reason. Ted Cruz who sat dumbly by while Trump insulted his wife's appearance and insinuated that his dad was in on the JFK assassination was willing to speak on his defence in the Supreme Court over the election steal lie.

Dems will be happy just to have Trump sidelined and out of the way.
But what happens if his "base" starts an uprising incited by his rhetoric? Nothing still? Essemtially there's no recourse to nip it in the bud so to speak? He has 70% republicans believing the democrats stole the election through fraud by messing with the ballots.....and they're mad.
 
Remember .. the great mystery gives alternate folk the ability to play with god the word too ... leavig some dying in laughter! IGGY????

Might be de Icey one with transliteration ... as traditional linguistics translations cause chaos ... a etude where some have a shoe in ... if not overly attached to say English, etc. Thus vertigo ... folk down here appear a bit dizzy from the fall a Ci ... creating opportunity for vast variants in the code ... to hide reason!

This may be an effect quite distant from the psychopathic domain ... that's something else again ... causing tyrants to smear psychologists ... look what POTUS did to his sister ... because she read into his human condition (deficient)! Thus holes ...

Steven Pinker put forth the potential that these folks cannot be altered ... no alternate side to their egos ...
 
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I do wonder if indeed 70% of Republicans support this mess. I really hope it's an embarrassing lesson for them to brush off. I choose to believe much of that "support" was craven expedience and requisite grovelling. They can distance themselves any time after Jan 20th.
 
I do wonder if indeed 70% of Republicans support this mess. I really hope it's an embarrassing lesson for them to brush off. I choose to believe much of that "support" was craven expedience and requisite grovelling. They can distance themselves any time after Jan 20th.
You think this "movement" will quiet down after the election?
 
Some r'sis are generally fixed where they're at ... smears of darker hue ... take it as you may!

This may require some in-depth reading ... neither shallow, nor simple given the chaotic complexity ...
 
I know of a gay couple in the US, one of them a Canadian, who are working on moving to NS despite the result of the election, stating that even with Bidens win, it seems to become more and more dangerous. They also fear that their marriage will be annulled once it gets challenge in the Supreme Court.
 
But what happens if his "base" starts an uprising incited by his rhetoric? Nothing still? Essemtially there's no recourse to nip it in the bud so to speak? He has 70% republicans believing the democrats stole the election through fraud by messing with the ballots.....and they're mad.
It is hard to talk about what would normally happen in such an instance when Trump is an anomaly.

That said, in most speech crimes (since the man isn't going to commit physical violence himself) the test will always be whether or nor reasonable people are swayed by his words or whether or not he believes what he is saying to be truthful.

Anybody who hasn't seen the man for the bald-faced liar he is doesn't qualify as reasonable and he isn't going to admit that he said something that has been videotaped several times over.

There are a few fringe elements that might be inspired to take further action without leaders actually willing to take up arms and lead them nothing large scale is going to happen. No politician has grabbed their gun to take back the country. No General has mobilized troops under their command to defend Trump's tenure because those are reasonable people who understand that there would be real-world consequences for such sedition. In short, those office holders without the immunity of the office of President are all talk and no action. And they talk the way they are because they fear what happens if they don't carry Trump's water.

The rest of the Trump supporters are not organized to be an effective national militia and while there may be individuals who aspire to be Generals for some Trump Army they are likely of such poor renown that they couldn't inspire anyone outside their immediate orbits. And with the plot against Whitmer having been uncovered you can bet that law enforcement on all levels is monitoring other militia groups very tightly.
 
It is hard to talk about what would normally happen in such an instance when Trump is an anomaly.

That said, in most speech crimes (since the man isn't going to commit physical violence himself) the test will always be whether or nor reasonable people are swayed by his words or whether or not he believes what he is saying to be truthful.

Anybody who hasn't seen the man for the bald-faced liar he is doesn't qualify as reasonable and he isn't going to admit that he said something that has been videotaped several times over.

There are a few fringe elements that might be inspired to take further action without leaders actually willing to take up arms and lead them nothing large scale is going to happen. No politician has grabbed their gun to take back the country. No General has mobilized troops under their command to defend Trump's tenure because those are reasonable people who understand that there would be real-world consequences for such sedition. In short, those office holders without the immunity of the office of President are all talk and no action. And they talk the way they are because they fear what happens if they don't carry Trump's water.

The rest of the Trump supporters are not organized to be an effective national militia and while there may be individuals who aspire to be Generals for some Trump Army they are likely of such poor renown that they couldn't inspire anyone outside their immediate orbits. And with the plot against Whitmer having been uncovered you can bet that law enforcement on all levels is monitoring other militia groups very tightly.
Good points.....I will breathe easier and I'm not even American.
 
Sometimes, the weakness of a group tends to level them. A big swathe of American pop culture got occupied by an orange demon then created a home for the United Bats**t Fringes. All have short attention spans and feed on continuous entertainment. Nothing is happening fast enough, and his Scariness will be forgotten by the immediate consumers of media almost before he's left office. Fickle as u know what.
 
It is hard to talk about what would normally happen in such an instance when Trump is an anomaly.

That said, in most speech crimes (since the man isn't going to commit physical violence himself) the test will always be whether or nor reasonable people are swayed by his words or whether or not he believes what he is saying to be truthful.

Anybody who hasn't seen the man for the bald-faced liar he is doesn't qualify as reasonable and he isn't going to admit that he said something that has been videotaped several times over.

There are a few fringe elements that might be inspired to take further action without leaders actually willing to take up arms and lead them nothing large scale is going to happen. No politician has grabbed their gun to take back the country. No General has mobilized troops under their command to defend Trump's tenure because those are reasonable people who understand that there would be real-world consequences for such sedition. In short, those office holders without the immunity of the office of President are all talk and no action. And they talk the way they are because they fear what happens if they don't carry Trump's water.

The rest of the Trump supporters are not organized to be an effective national militia and while there may be individuals who aspire to be Generals for some Trump Army they are likely of such poor renown that they couldn't inspire anyone outside their immediate orbits. And with the plot against Whitmer having been uncovered you can bet that law enforcement on all levels is monitoring other militia groups very tightly.
I find Michael Flynn's recent words a bit concerning. He has lots of followers.
 
The orange against the green .... green being a sign of nature of the human ... naivete personified?

Then what would I know as a strange one ... from out there? UN Oqued!
 
I find Michael Flynn's recent words a bit concerning. He has lots of followers.

Tis flynnished ... flini chid! On has to know about "chi" ... and relationship in the rheum! It needs Ur so says my house mistress on the matter of chi bean there ... the nature of heh was shed ... thus the shack or doghouse!
 
He tapped into a segment of the country that feels left behind in their own country. They aren’t going away

and he got a huge amount of Latino support. New immigrants that are worried about the democrats and talk of socialism as being right next to the communism they escaped


if the democrats ignore these people they too will be one term president
 
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