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To be clear ... I do not hope for the expedient 'death' of reprehensible figures public or otherwise ... In the case of Trump it would accomplish exactly nothing ... there are many 'pay to players' waiting in the wings to replace him. The show must go on.
 
Also, Putin says the impeachment charges are bogus. So, they're really not bogus.
MEMO:
No collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Anyone that believes otherwise has been gaslighted plain and simple.

In the end, Mueller’s report shows that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative embraced and evangelized by the US political and media establishments to be a work of fiction. (BOGUS)

Leading pundits, outlets, and politicians ignored the countervailing facts and promoted maximalist interpretations of others.

Anonymous officials leaked explosive yet uncorroborated claims.

What you are left with are many stories that were subsequently discredited, retracted, or remain unconfirmed to this day.

There is an immense amount of criticism of Putin, most of it empty criticism which ignores realities and genuine analysis.

For the more thoughtful, it represents only the stink and noise of (BOGUS) propaganda, and not honest criticism.

So, there is a built-in powerful negative towards Russia in Washington power circles for which there is no clear possible remedy or correction, and, indeed, no matter how reasonably Putin behaves, his country faces this opposition. For some American politicians, and very notably Hillary Clinton, this has proved a handy tool, Clinton long having been a close-to fanatical supporter of Israeli interests. The fact has earned her a great deal of campaign funding and other support over the years. Clinton’s ego also just could not take the fact that she lost the election to the leader of “the deplorables,” as she once called Trump’s supporters, so in dark claims of Russian interference, supported by absolutely no proof whatsoever, she protects her ego. And long before election day, Clinton had a hand in exploiting attitudes about Russia in another way. She is known to have paid, at least in part, for the fraudulent Steele Dossier commissioned from an ex-British spy. It was used to try to discredit Trump over Russian connections.

This dislike for Russia by the Neocons and other boosters of resurgent American power really is what is at the heart of America’s current Russophobia obsession, not any threatening actions by Russia. It becomes a kind of vicious circle with new accusations piled on all the time by various actors each with their own motives, and it is clearly quite dangerous.

So, these are the positions of the two countries today, Russia having risen quite impressively from the depths under a remarkably able leader, extremely popular and well-supported by powerful elements of its society, versus America, now in a much different kind of decline than what Russia experienced, led by an establishment group with rather less-than-honorable intentions and with a political system virtually designed to produce no real leaders who might interfere with establishment plans.

So, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, both highly intelligent leaders, have a great many weighty common interests in working together as never before. America’s new policies have been a driving force in bringing them together, and there is no reason to expect any diminishment of that force. Recent American international behavior requires others to accept what Putin likes to call America’s “exceptionalism,” its position first and above all other nations, its self-granted privilege of not having to play by the same rules as everyone else—its status of “the indispensable nation” as one of America’s more arrogant diplomats put it not very long ago—and it requires that from two major, proud, and ancient societies which cannot possibly grant it.

Security expenses are hard to compare, so much is secretive, but the United States with its 17 separate national security agencies and such a vast enterprise as the NSA’s new archipelago of facilities stuffed with hi-tech gear and supercomputers which spy on and record every American plus others would put any other country out of the competition. Again, the demands of the American establishment utterly compromise the interests of the country’s own citizens at large. Indeed, now in security matters, ordinary Americans have been pretty much reduced to a herd, each with an identifying tag stapled to his ear.

Russia’s democracy may be quite imperfect, but America’s—what it had of one, it never from the beginning identified itself actually as a democracy—has been transformed into plutocracy with an elaborate window-dressing simulation of democracy, an arrangement in which the state’s resources are committed to its privileged class and the advance of empire. And, as I’ve written many times, you can have a decent country or you can have an empire, but you cannot have both.

About the Author:
John Chuckman is former chief economist for a large Canadian oil company. He has many interests and is a lifelong student of history. He writes with a passionate desire for honesty, the rule of reason, and concern for human decency. John regards it as a badge of honor to have left the United States as a poor young man from the South Side of Chicago when the country embarked on the pointless murder of something like 3 million Vietnamese in their own land because they happened to embrace the wrong economic loyalties. He lives in Canada, which he is fond of calling “the peaceable kingdom.”


 
MEMO:
No collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Anyone that believes otherwise has been gaslighted plain and simple.

In the end, Mueller’s report shows that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative embraced and evangelized by the US political and media establishments to be a work of fiction. (BOGUS)

Leading pundits, outlets, and politicians ignored the countervailing facts and promoted maximalist interpretations of others.

Anonymous officials leaked explosive yet uncorroborated claims.

What you are left with are many stories that were subsequently discredited, retracted, or remain unconfirmed to this day.

There is an immense amount of criticism of Putin, most of it empty criticism which ignores realities and genuine analysis.

For the more thoughtful, it represents only the stink and noise of (BOGUS) propaganda, and not honest criticism.

So, there is a built-in powerful negative towards Russia in Washington power circles for which there is no clear possible remedy or correction, and, indeed, no matter how reasonably Putin behaves, his country faces this opposition. For some American politicians, and very notably Hillary Clinton, this has proved a handy tool, Clinton long having been a close-to fanatical supporter of Israeli interests. The fact has earned her a great deal of campaign funding and other support over the years. Clinton’s ego also just could not take the fact that she lost the election to the leader of “the deplorables,” as she once called Trump’s supporters, so in dark claims of Russian interference, supported by absolutely no proof whatsoever, she protects her ego. And long before election day, Clinton had a hand in exploiting attitudes about Russia in another way. She is known to have paid, at least in part, for the fraudulent Steele Dossier commissioned from an ex-British spy. It was used to try to discredit Trump over Russian connections.

This dislike for Russia by the Neocons and other boosters of resurgent American power really is what is at the heart of America’s current Russophobia obsession, not any threatening actions by Russia. It becomes a kind of vicious circle with new accusations piled on all the time by various actors each with their own motives, and it is clearly quite dangerous.

So, these are the positions of the two countries today, Russia having risen quite impressively from the depths under a remarkably able leader, extremely popular and well-supported by powerful elements of its society, versus America, now in a much different kind of decline than what Russia experienced, led by an establishment group with rather less-than-honorable intentions and with a political system virtually designed to produce no real leaders who might interfere with establishment plans.

So, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, both highly intelligent leaders, have a great many weighty common interests in working together as never before. America’s new policies have been a driving force in bringing them together, and there is no reason to expect any diminishment of that force. Recent American international behavior requires others to accept what Putin likes to call America’s “exceptionalism,” its position first and above all other nations, its self-granted privilege of not having to play by the same rules as everyone else—its status of “the indispensable nation” as one of America’s more arrogant diplomats put it not very long ago—and it requires that from two major, proud, and ancient societies which cannot possibly grant it.

Security expenses are hard to compare, so much is secretive, but the United States with its 17 separate national security agencies and such a vast enterprise as the NSA’s new archipelago of facilities stuffed with hi-tech gear and supercomputers which spy on and record every American plus others would put any other country out of the competition. Again, the demands of the American establishment utterly compromise the interests of the country’s own citizens at large. Indeed, now in security matters, ordinary Americans have been pretty much reduced to a herd, each with an identifying tag stapled to his ear.

Russia’s democracy may be quite imperfect, but America’s—what it had of one, it never from the beginning identified itself actually as a democracy—has been transformed into plutocracy with an elaborate window-dressing simulation of democracy, an arrangement in which the state’s resources are committed to its privileged class and the advance of empire. And, as I’ve written many times, you can have a decent country or you can have an empire, but you cannot have both.

About the Author:
John Chuckman is former chief economist for a large Canadian oil company. He has many interests and is a lifelong student of history. He writes with a passionate desire for honesty, the rule of reason, and concern for human decency. John regards it as a badge of honor to have left the United States as a poor young man from the South Side of Chicago when the country embarked on the pointless murder of something like 3 million Vietnamese in their own land because they happened to embrace the wrong economic loyalties. He lives in Canada, which he is fond of calling “the peaceable kingdom.”


The conclusion doesn't follow the premise here.

There was no collusion between Trump and Russia, the article says. That's not quite accurate (whether it rose to the level of "high crime and misdemeanour", Mueller made clear that it was a matter for the House to conclude).

Then this article goes on to hint about how Putin sees America...exceptional...and a rival to Russia's exceptionalism, and expansionist designs, no doubt.

Also, Russia has long been and still is a Plutocracy. Trump is okay with that. He wants the world to be run that way.

Russia's spy apparatus is at least as, if not more, robust, as the US's. Putin is ruthless and corrupt, and Trump seems to have a bizarre habit of loyalty to him. It's not Russophobia against Russian people (unless they work for troll farms)...it's about nepharious government influence by Putin.

Also, Russia and Ukraine are at war. It has been established that Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to pressure them to dig up dirt on an election rival. (Pause there...it doesn't matter what corruption the Bidens may or may not have been up to... they were likely not squeaky clean - which may warrant a separate investigation not directed independently by Trump and Guliani - but the point is Trump doesn't care about that. He cares that Biden is a political opponent. Russia cares that Ukraine is in the way of their own imperial designs.)

Trump's "if it's good for me it can't be bad" attitude led him to his impeachment. I still don't think he understands that he did anything wrong. That doesn't mean he didn't. His quid pro quo move with an international leader to dig dirt up on an election rival may be how plutocrats work...but it's not supposed to be how presidents work. So, focusing on Trump right now, and not the "whatabouts"... Trump was reasonably impeached. It was the right thing to do. And he should not be in office, but he will be probably at least until 2020.

PS. I think Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard...especially Tulsi...are secretly Republicans.

P.S.S. Ivanka is friends with Steele. There's an angle for you to research.

Plutocracy...hmmm...Also...the writer of the article was a chief economist for an oil company...which one?
 
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Wishing death on a public figure, no matter how reprehensible he/she may be, could be construed 'Violence and Hate Speech' under the Code of Conduct # 2. We would ask that references not be made to hoped-for assassinations or assisted suicides.
My apologies for my violent fantasies out of fear of an insane president with easy access to nuclear missiles.
 
Wishing death on a public figure, no matter how reprehensible he/she may be, could be construed 'Violence and Hate Speech' under the Code of Conduct # 2. We would ask that references not be made to hoped-for assassinations or assisted suicides.

A better word would be assisted martyrdom ... given the urge to Dei because of the state we're in! Thus the state we're in appears as insanity incarnate!

The search for ends and NDes on as if we're in the midst ... as expressed by meso ... and misomaniac appearing in a period of the time machine!

Just goes more to prove the institution of what else but ... insane! I feel so confined by Ide ...
 
In a state of pure chaos and dissonance ... would the leaders be confused by truth and thus pass it down ... "confusion" and lack of coherence that is?

Nietzsche; then perhaps was right by rites of: "all is chaos, all is chaos" ... leaving me in a state that I admit ... I don't know! Alas it is fun to throw more of the "I don't know hogwash" at the alternates ... if only see if a child of observation comes out of the swamp!

Thus some of us root about ... routers for the future tense? It does represent that anticipation of the holiday spirit ... or a sense of there being some hole in the irony and metaphorical life under the Skye above us ... and under foot as it goes round ...

Where would we be without an entertaining myth about all that we don't know ... eternal's dis solution? Could be djinns ... or petit dejeuner eis ...

At night some fete's we don't swallow ... just squirm up to? Image the Kahn 've worms we're in ... the inner shadow ...

That'soul man ... c'est fini ... and the horn was ... processed? Plenty well enough of this insanity ... where do we get off?

May require a vast legend, ballad, story or myth a' logos. The queen was said to use the term: annus horribilis ---


Annual Ide*us ???? The primal item ... the purple Shadow takes on a particular strain ... anhk's no JOB? It just is like autonomous fields ...
 
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A better word would be assisted martyrdom ... given the urge to Dei because of the state we're in! Thus the state we're in appears as insanity incarnate!

The search for ends and NDes on as if we're in the midst ... as expressed by meso ... and misomaniac appearing in a period of the time machine!

Just goes more to prove the institution of what else but ... insane! I feel so confined by Ide ...

Misomania is a vast word given the lost understanding souls passover?
 
There's a reason why Fox News is known as Faux News

without listening to fox or cnn, the truth is out there if you do your research, the Dems rely on people who hate Trump so they can push false narrative as if true and you guys believe them .

in the meantime,

no Russia collusion

17 FISA abuses, Fisa courts slams FBI

no quid pro quo, Dems vote for impeachment even before the call, what a joke

no facts, all hearsay, but the Dems want you to believe hearsay is fact ,

3 Dem's vote against impeachment, 1 dem does not vote, another Dem joined the republican party and speaks about pressure from the Dems to vote on impeachment or face political ruin, another Dem Just spoke up and speaks about pressure or.

I have said it many times and will say it again, Trump will win 2020 and the swamp will begin to fall as its currently playing out now with the impeachment to protect Biden and his addict son. That is the swamp, people in power for so long that they protect each other, make millions and disregard the will of the people for power and profit.

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on a personal note, I grew up southern Italian, I know all to well the sweet little grandfather, or uncle, the great family men, who attend church on Sundays and bring you gifts on Christmas and your birthdays, you would never ever believe that they would be the head of notorious Mafia or Mano Nera (black hand) or Cosa Nostra (our thing).

stop listening to politically sweet talk and word manipulation games & images they manifest before the public and you'll see beyond the veil.
 
The conclusion doesn't follow the premise here.

There was no collusion between Trump and Russia, the article says. That's not quite accurate (whether it rose to the level of "high crime and misdemeanour", Mueller made clear that it was a matter for the House to conclude).

Then this article goes on to hint about how Putin sees America...exceptional...and a rival to Russia's exceptionalism, and expansionist designs, no doubt.

Also, Russia has long been and still is a Plutocracy. Trump is okay with that. He wants the world to be run that way.

Russia's spy apparatus is at least as, if not more, robust, as the US's. Putin is ruthless and corrupt, and Trump seems to have a bizarre habit of loyalty to him. It's not Russophobia against Russian people (unless they work for troll farms)...it's about nepharious government influence by Putin.

Also, Russia and Ukraine are at war. It has been established that Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to pressure them to dig up dirt on an election rival. (Pause there...it doesn't matter what corruption the Bidens may or may not have been up to... they were likely not squeaky clean - which may warrant a separate investigation not directed independently by Trump and Guliani - but the point is Trump doesn't care about that. He cares that Biden is a political opponent. Russia cares that Ukraine is in the way of their own imperial designs.)

Trump's "if it's good for me it can't be bad" attitude led him to his impeachment. I still don't think he understands that he did anything wrong. That doesn't mean he didn't. His quid pro quo move with an international leader to dig dirt up on an election rival may be how plutocrats work...but it's not supposed to be how presidents work. So, focusing on Trump right now, and not the "whatabouts"... Trump was reasonably impeached. It was the right thing to do. And he should not be in office, but he will be probably at least until 2020.

PS. I think Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard...especially Tulsi...are secretly Republicans.

P.S.S. Ivanka is friends with Steele. There's an angle for you to research.

Plutocracy...hmmm...Also...the writer of the article was a chief economist for an oil company...which one?

Alrighty then ... I am certainly no expert ... I have tried to 'f'actually educate myself a little around the 'whole' situation.

I will once again leave you to your 'speculative' approach towards making up your own mind.
 
Does a Black Hand cause a blackout or blind spot? We had a manufacturer of ethanal in the Maritimes in the prohibition for industrial purposes ... really? Yes it is a true sense of allegory ...

Recall Red-Greens Rule if you can't be of assistance ... be handy! How close is handy to a lye?
 
@blackbelt1961 I agree we need to look beyond the narrative. I've spent many years working with addicts. I've learned to never judge a book by its cover. I've seen people like those you mentioned, nice people who are actually head of the mafia. I've met people who look "despicable" (for lack of a better word) and who are actually the kindest souls. I do look beyond the surface.

The thing is, Trump has a long history that's there for all to see. Honesty, integrity and similar values have never been in his way of being. At least as it appears. I have never admired the man. In fact I've always wondered why people like him are those we revere. Greed and narcissism are not values to revere.

Before you go binary and tell me that because I don't like Trump, I must like H. Clinton. That would be a false assumption. I do agree with those who say we need change. Trump was not the vehicle for change. In fact, he's more of the same in a business suit.

People say the media lies about Trump or emphasizes only part of the story. I have no doubt they do. Still, he has been recorded on video as saying the things he has been accused of saying. Trump would seem to have us believe that up is down and down is up. He's a classic example of "DARVO" a way that abusers operate. That is Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim Order.

We (including Canadians) need leaders who will show some integrity and take responsibility for their actions. Trump is not a leader.
 
@blackbelt1961 I agree we need to look beyond the narrative. I've spent many years working with addicts. I've learned to never judge a book by its cover. I've seen people like those you mentioned, nice people who are actually head of the mafia. I've met people who look "despicable" (for lack of a better word) and who are actually the kindest souls. I do look beyond the surface.

The thing is, Trump has a long history that's there for all to see. Honesty, integrity and similar values have never been in his way of being. At least as it appears. I have never admired the man. In fact I've always wondered why people like him are those we revere. Greed and narcissism are not values to revere.

Before you go binary and tell me that because I don't like Trump, I must like H. Clinton. That would be a false assumption. I do agree with those who say we need change. Trump was not the vehicle for change. In fact, he's more of the same in a business suit.

People say the media lies about Trump or emphasizes only part of the story. I have no doubt they do. Still, he has been recorded on video as saying the things he has been accused of saying. Trump would seem to have us believe that up is down and down is up. He's a classic example of "DARVO" a way that abusers operate. That is Deny, Accuse, Reverse Victim Order.

We (including Canadians) need leaders who will show some integrity and take responsibility for their actions. Trump is not a leader.
The only difference is the Democrats are master manipulators and Trump is not with Trump what you see is what you get and that's why the people like him ,they're tired of the manipulation mind games with the Democrats, I agree nobody's perfect governments are run by human beings but the will of the people put Trump in power and the more the Democrats use manipulation games like impeachment, hollywood, media,the more the people see it and the more they they're going to vote for Trump
 
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