TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Trump was talking about after Hillary appoints judges - so I do not think he meant that the "second amendment" people could unite to vote Hillary out. He's the one spinning his words after the fact.

He has already said the election will be rigged - long before an election has taken place and the votes are counted - so if he loses his voters have already been set up to believe that. The man is dangerous.

One of Trump's advisors, a former military general, made the firing squad comment.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

revsdd - your earlier point taken with thanks.
kimmio - the fact that people are called high government officials or security experts does not make them worth listening to. High government officials are the ones who have drenced the U.S. in wars and murdered millions to please the oil industry. Security experts are the thought police. They are also the ones who practices torture on an unpreceded scale. And when we speak of assassination, remember the words of Hillary when the president of Libya was murdered, "We came, we saw, we killed him." Hillary has assassinated far more people than Trump has. - though I'm sure Trump will catch up.

Northwind - socialist states want the government to be their mummy and daddy? Get past. It is truer to say that Capitalist states want the government to be mummy and daddy for big business - to let it escapte taxation, to give it gifts, and to pay for the cost of fighting its enemies (like Guatemala), and to sacrifice the offspring of the poor and middle class to do it all.
If you want to know what socialism is, may I suggest you read the ten commandments and the Sermon on the Mount.
Or, alternately, you can direct me to what clauses in your faith advocate an economic system based on greed.

 

[Jaebius]

Trump was talking about after Hillary appoints judges - so I do not think he meant that the "second amendment" people could unite to vote Hillary out. He's the one spinning his words after the fact.

They may be able to unite together now and act politically to ensure that she never becomes President.

He has already said the election will be rigged - long before an election has taken place and the votes are counted - so if he loses his voters have already been set up to believe that. The man is dangerous.

No he isn't.

One of Trump's advisors, a former military general, made the firing squad comment.

Interesting that you say he's an advisor, whereas @revsdd said he was just a Republican delegate. I'm inclined to believe @revsdd on that one.

 

[Northwind]

Northwind - socialist states want the government to be their mummy and daddy? Get past. It is truer to say that Capitalist states want the government to be mummy and daddy for big business - to let it escapte taxation, to give it gifts, and to pay for the cost of fighting its enemies (like Guatemala), and to sacrifice the offspring of the poor and middle class to do it all.
If you want to know what socialism is, may I suggest you read the ten commandments and the Sermon on the Mount.
Or, alternately, you can direct me to what clauses in your faith advocate an economic system based on greed.

I never said that. Go back and look at the post you are responding to and address the person who actually wrote it. I am well aware of what socialism is.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

kimmio, American elections have been rigged for decades, at least. In 2000, there were major cases of it in Florida where Jeb bush kept blacks away from the polls. There was also scandalous behaviour favouring Bush by the company that installed the voting machines. And it has happened in every election since.
WE don't have to blame Trump for that. He just said the truth.

 

[Northwind]

All politicians running for election craft their speeches (or their writers do) to ensure their specific message is getting through. Trump is feeding the fear narrative very well. He's also stirring the pot of hatred towards Clinton, and suggesting a tough response. He's already started the narrative that the election will be rigged. I won't want to be in the US in November.

It is irresponsible to fan the flames of hatred. Trump was irresponsible to add the ambiguous language about the second amendment. If someone does try to take a violent approach to dealing with Clinton, he most certainly did contribute to that.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

Sorry, northwind. I'm bogged down with trying to write my blog, going to get my daughter, making supper...I have to get a life.
It was Waterfall who made the comment about socialism.

 

[Graeme Decarie]

Yes, most of us will agree that Trump is an irresponsible dolt. And Hillary has a long history involving mass murder and torture and kissing up to billionaires. Both attack each other. Both thrive on hatreds and fears. That's why the subject isn't worth discussing. There is no good choice. There is no choice that does not have disastrous implications. Arguing about which of those two is worse is a waste of tiem. The reality we have to deal with is that U.S. democracy, which has been dwindling for years, no long exists.,

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

To say the election is rigged before it happens just adds fuel to the fire of Trump's angry supporters. Even if Hillary wins by a landslide there will be angry doubters because he has planted in their minds beforehand that it's rigged. Of course, if he wins he'll say it wasn't rigged after all. And they'd believe that, too, about their guru. The man is a con artist extraordinaire.

Both choices are poor choices...but Hillary is the lesser of the two evils. She has a record that isn't stellar but Trump's impulsive, reckless, character and lack of knowledge makes him far more dangerous.

My step mom and her mom used to say, "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't." It's an apt expression here.

Somebody is going to be elected...and yes, Graeme, it makes a difference. Trump and his republican supporters are too far off the rails. The tea party element that infected the GOP has given rise to Trump. Trump spells huge trouble.

 

[Waterfall]

"Waterfall"- socialist states want the government to be their mummy and daddy? Get past. It is truer to say that Capitalist states want the government to be mummy and daddy for big business - to let it escapte taxation, to give it gifts, and to pay for the cost of fighting its enemies (like Guatemala), and to sacrifice the offspring of the poor and middle class to do it all.
If you want to know what socialism is, may I suggest you read the ten commandments and the Sermon on the Mount.
Or, alternately, you can direct me to what clauses in your faith advocate an economic system based on greed.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Nothing advocates greed in my faith.

 

[chansen]

Of course Trump is not responsible if anyone takes what he has said in the wrong way and based on that misunderstanding does something wrong. That must be perfectly clear.

Trump's game is the same as your game. You both say inflammatory things with just enough ambiguity to give yourselves plausible deniability of the meaning behind the statement. And now you get to troll everyone with pro-Trump material you can gleam from the Internet, and watch heads explode while you hone your craft. It's perfect.

 

[Waterfall]

I was just thinking the same thing.

 

[Luce NDs]

Would people having an affinity to trump suffer internalized murderous Christian attributes?



Thus the void between right to life and murdering of abortionists ... a schism of polity?

 

[Luce NDs]

Jae,

Do you support crooked senators on principle of polity in apparatus of power?

If you do I suspect you are on Mike Duffy's side of ripping off the pagan folk ... you know common people in the machinery of destruction!

After ... no one left to carry out the crap and this it builds as Voltaire indicated in great irony about the intelligence of common people ... the dumb paradigm? Projected naivete

 

[Graeme Decarie]

Here's an interesting story about one of the 'security' experts who praised Clinton and warned against Trump.
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/09...s-for-killing-iranians-and-russians-in-syria/

 

[Luce NDs]

Here's an interesting story about one of the 'security' experts who praised Clinton and warned against Trump.
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/09/ex-cia-chief-who-endorsed-clinton-calls-for-killing-iranians-and-russians-in-syria/

Sheer chaos or in Hebrew a citi of confusion ... a place of passions being that passions cause gross confusion compared to rationale ... thus the Nous citi of heaven in which all people are disturbed ...

 

[Graeme Decarie]

Waterfall - read your own definition of socialism. Also bear in mind the reasons for it - and its origins in Christian thought.
And then tell me how an economy based on gross imbalance and greed and self-interest is possibly compatible with Christianity. note that for a half century, the leading figures of socialism in Canada were Christian clergy. capitalism is profoundly anti-Christian. It is harminig people not only in Canada and the U.S., but killing them all over the world.

A person who cannot see that is like those people who thought how Christian it was for Cardinal Spellman to bless bombs that were to be dropped on Cuba. or perhaps people whose sense of Christianity consists of singiing Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

Kimmio - there are laws in effect in the U.S. which make it possible to deny the vote to groups one party doesn't like - such as Blacks. It is law. It has been used routinely. There is a law which makes it possible for international corporations to give unlimited sums of money to U.S. political parties. UNLIMITED. And no need to report it. that's why Hillary has such an enormous campaign fund. This is probably the most expensive election in world history. There was no way a Bernie Sanders could get that kind of money. Corruption in the vote count has been a feature of elections since the introduction of voting machines. There has ALWAYS been rigging of American elections. We don't have to wait to see if it's going to happen.
Hillary is bad but the best choice? You don't mind that she has been a major player in the murders of huge numbers of people in the last eight years? Better the devil you know? - the one who has helped in the massive drownings of refugees, of massive deaths caused by enforced starvation and exposure?
Kimmio, there's no candidate who is less evil than the other. it's over. a whole world that was imaginary in the first place is gone. There is no evil and a not so evil. It's a disaster no matter who wins.
By the way, their economic policies are based on pure fiction and false numbers from the government. Unemployment is not 5%. It's far, far worse. The economy is not recovering. It is failing. The homeless are not vanishing. They are multiiplying. There is no prosperity of home ownership. In fact, it's at the lowest level in a quarter century. Incomes are not rising.
And everybody, including us, is going to pay one hell of a price for that.

 

[Luce NDs]

Waterfall - read your own definition of socialism. Also bear in mind the reasons for it - and its origins in Christian thought.
And then tell me how an economy based on gross imbalance and greed and self-interest is possibly compatible with Christianity. note that for a half century, the leading figures of socialism in Canada were Christian clergy. capitalism is profoundly anti-Christian. It is harminig people not only in Canada and the U.S., but killing them all over the world.

A person who cannot see that is like those people who thought how Christian it was for Cardinal Spellman to bless bombs that were to be dropped on Cuba. or perhaps people whose sense of Christianity consists of singiing Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

Kimmio - there are laws in effect in the U.S. which make it possible to deny the vote to groups one party doesn't like - such as Blacks. It is law. It has been used routinely. There is a law which makes it possible for international corporations to give unlimited sums of money to U.S. political parties. UNLIMITED. And no need to report it. that's why Hillary has such an enormous campaign fund. This is probably the most expensive election in world history. There was no way a Bernie Sanders could get that kind of money. Corruption in the vote count has been a feature of elections since the introduction of voting machines. There has ALWAYS been rigging of American elections. We don't have to wait to see if it's going to happen.
Hillary is bad but the best choice? You don't mind that she has been a major player in the murders of huge numbers of people in the last eight years? Better the devil you know? - the one who has helped in the massive drownings of refugees, of massive deaths caused by enforced starvation and exposure?
Kimmio, there's no candidate who is less evil than the other. it's over. a whole world that was imaginary in the first place is gone. There is no evil and a not so evil. It's a disaster no matter who wins.
By the way, their economic policies are based on pure fiction and false numbers from the government. Unemployment is not 5%. It's far, far worse. The economy is not recovering. It is failing. The homeless are not vanishing. They are multiiplying. There is no prosperity of home ownership. In fact, it's at the lowest level in a quarter century. Incomes are not rising.
And everybody, including us, is going to pay one hell of a price for that.

Is socialism totally anti individualism and thus contrary to man (UV; Greek) as an isolated power in the shades of the Sha Dhow .. a particular vessel on continuum?

 

[Jaebius]

Trump's game is the same as your game. You both say inflammatory things with just enough ambiguity to give yourselves plausible deniability of the meaning behind the statement. And now you get to troll everyone with pro-Trump material you can gleam from the Internet, and watch heads explode while you hone your craft. It's perfect.

That may or may not be your true perception of things chansen. I reject the accusations you make concerning me here. This election, I have decided to take the high road of being upbeat and optimistic. If you have a problem with that, perhaps what you should engage in is some serious self-reflection. Have a great evening.

 

[Luce NDs]

How could one make a virtuous perception of Jae ... given his tendency to ditz ... compared to us that have no intent to express belief that we know all ... everything related to god by alchemy! This is sheer chaos to those that see the extremity of god as eternally beyond mortals ...

Thus the mortal pool is in dissonance ... Eris in storm as babble on without a kohl drink ...?

Thus the rein ...