TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?
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Nobody ever said the devil wasn't smart.
If he had a cognitive disability it would be easier to accept what's going on as nobody's fault. He has a morality disability - there is no such measurable thing. There is sociopathy - but because a sociopath can be very high functioning it's not seen as a disability.
It falls on the people naive enough to vote for him. And those who believed him every time he said "believe me".
Yes, I'm guess I'm a girther - good one. Trump is one pound shy of obesity. C'mon? That's too convenient, and even if true...close enough to obese anyway. It's not his weight (or his intellect) it's his troubled and troubling ego that's the problem. It's probably true that he's healthy from not smoking and drinking, though. People can be very overweight and healthy for a long time. Some illness catches up with all of us though.
If he had a cognitive disability it would be easier to accept what's going on as nobody's fault. He has a morality disability - there is no such measurable thing. There is sociopathy - but because a sociopath can be very high functioning it's not seen as a disability.
It falls on the people naive enough to vote for him. And those who believed him every time he said "believe me".
Yes, I'm guess I'm a girther - good one. Trump is one pound shy of obesity. C'mon? That's too convenient, and even if true...close enough to obese anyway. It's not his weight (or his intellect) it's his troubled and troubling ego that's the problem. It's probably true that he's healthy from not smoking and drinking, though. People can be very overweight and healthy for a long time. Some illness catches up with all of us though.
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This is a sample of the cognitive test Trump took. As you can see, it is very basic - to test for signs of dimentia. If this was a test of all the cognitive ability, and leadership characteristics needed to be POTUS - most 1st graders would be up to the task. Also, it is clearly not a mental health exam.
Did he ask for the easiest test? (Alternately, just like he is given news briefings that keep him happy; was he given this particular test because he would ace it and be pleased with himself?)
http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/site-images/MoCA-Test-English_7_1.pdf
If this is the best they can do to test his mental health and fitness, for such an important job as POTUS - it's just a cruel joke.
Did he ask for the easiest test? (Alternately, just like he is given news briefings that keep him happy; was he given this particular test because he would ace it and be pleased with himself?)
http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/site-images/MoCA-Test-English_7_1.pdf
If this is the best they can do to test his mental health and fitness, for such an important job as POTUS - it's just a cruel joke.
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Dementia. Ironic spelling error. 
I stand by the rest of that comment. Fortunately, I'd never, ever, want a powerful job as a world leader.
I stand by the rest of that comment. Fortunately, I'd never, ever, want a powerful job as a world leader.
Does God believe in Trump? White evangelicals are sticking with their "Prince of Lies"
This is how the world got Trump(ed).
This is how the world got Trump(ed).
I'trolls in straight lines that eventually come round again ... the straight-liners can't believe this sales and service thing if they can't deal with servicing intelligently ... thus IT diminishes ... Dilution Thesis ... it has antithesis ... a word best served by example ... GOGGLE in with a cereus gaze ... takes only a small shift in word structure ... and all comes down false to the ground ... adding to the fecundity ... the primal purpose ! Nose-hit?
If it doesn't serve sales ... bury it thus intellectual things are partisan ... understood as underground or beneath the intellectual abilities as denied? Tis a quest ... virtue of mystery and myth ... and real people have this Xenon thing ... fear of the unseen! Yet they will not see it ... thus the story of the dead walks ... moves on ... deeper! Some labell this a dark lady ... subconsciously working Ide-a ... near beginning ... but we're not shue-ah ... just a bit bog gael'd ...
It'll come to yah ... later while climbing that stair case ... the waters at the bottom çi-lee ... calm and quiet ... listen and look ... tis silent 'sto draw from ... re put ... or repositioning to better see the wholly? Tis af' pyre ... it'll carry ... if you can bier Ide. One always needs a fey Eire tender ...
If it doesn't serve sales ... bury it thus intellectual things are partisan ... understood as underground or beneath the intellectual abilities as denied? Tis a quest ... virtue of mystery and myth ... and real people have this Xenon thing ... fear of the unseen! Yet they will not see it ... thus the story of the dead walks ... moves on ... deeper! Some labell this a dark lady ... subconsciously working Ide-a ... near beginning ... but we're not shue-ah ... just a bit bog gael'd ...
It'll come to yah ... later while climbing that stair case ... the waters at the bottom çi-lee ... calm and quiet ... listen and look ... tis silent 'sto draw from ... re put ... or repositioning to better see the wholly? Tis af' pyre ... it'll carry ... if you can bier Ide. One always needs a fey Eire tender ...
Dementia. Ironic spelling error.
I stand by the rest of that comment. Fortunately, I'd never, ever, want a powerful job as a world leader.
Dementia too ... is a kind 've spell that spreads across all of creation ... no one knose why we're here any more ... a primal virtue gone wild?
Tis a' thetical item as derived from antithetical --- reference Northrup Frye ... the concept is critically complex for simple BS! Few read or like such literature as it gives rise to bobbers and bobbins ... fishermen spinning?
Tis the ('a) that really disturbs eM ... they don't know the unfolding expansion of how it was condensed before ... sublime from the ridiculous ... a process to get over ... but it you speak of it ... it may cause waves in the deeper pools ... see Fantasia ! All caused by we critters in the mix ... cats, rats, elephants ... all blanched out ... snow Job in Rome?
BetteTheRed
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It's a standard dementia test. Took my mother to many a visit with her gerontologist; this was a regular test.
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I confess that I couldn't always remember all five words after the five minute delay. Neither could Mom, and we were both okay, dementia-wise...
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No. He didn't ask for the easiest test. The Montreal Cognitive Impairment Test is widely used and is the standard for detecting whether a person suffers from cognitive impairment. It assesses things like memory, attention, concentration, language and understanding of time and space. In other words, it looks at the things that people who have the beginnings of dementia begin to experience. Had the test shown problems, then I'm sure there would have been further tests, but apparently Trump aced it. So there's no indication of dementia.
The Montreal Test only assesses cognitive function and not any psychiatric problems.
As for his physical health, aside from high cholesterol there doesn't seem to be much of an issue. Using Trump's stats, I checked his "ideal weight" on a medical website, and found that it said he was only marginally overweight (ideal weight being between 215-237 pounds) and not close to obese. Other doctors (who haven't examined Trump) are raising concerns about his heart health.
I do hate to say it (and I don't want to jump on the "fake news" bandwagon) but the concerns about Trump's health and weight are being most prominently reported by media outlets who are, frankly, overtly anti-Trump. (Especially CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times.) We also don't know the political bias of some of the doctors who didn't examine Trump but are nevertheless sharing their opinions - which isn't irrelevant. Even I think they're exaggerating things - and I'm no fan of Donald Trump.
In fact, I'd say I'm very disturbed by the cognitive test. It suggests that he's quite aware and alert - meaning that he probably actually means to say most of the odious things he says and to do most of the stupid things he does.
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More than That, he's probably proud of those things. He prides himself on being outspoken and straight talking doesn't he? He gets a lot of air time too. Air time is good. It means he's important.
Words can be cutting regarding neurological activity ... like they can cut into the ability of a person being awake when they should be pseudo apocalyptic? Looking at this abstract state from the opposing view could be embarrassing ...
He probably wouldn't go there as a seized Christian ... stuck on an particular idea ... and in denial of not wishing to learn as this would cause intellectual progress ... not something to be named in an emotional overwhelming state ...
In reality this goes on as alien data ... Xenophobia?
How Much Should I Weigh For My Height and Age?
According to this he is obese. I don't care about that actually. That's his business. What isn't just his business is how he does his job. And I agree with others that if he doesn't have dementia, his behaviour is more bothersome - but the test only rules out one issue. It is not a mental health exam.
According to this he is obese. I don't care about that actually. That's his business. What isn't just his business is how he does his job. And I agree with others that if he doesn't have dementia, his behaviour is more bothersome - but the test only rules out one issue. It is not a mental health exam.
It's also not an IQ test. ...although, I think Trump is intelligent enough to con a lot of people. Because he has.
There are tests for pathological trends ... these folk believe that anyone beyond their realm of thought should be expired ... thus well-gone ... reminds me of Finnegan ... verily catty ...
This is not a critique of you Bette - I just looked up a place in this conversation where Adam's techniques where being discussed - to revisit it.
Is this a tacit admission that Adams himself is a sociopathic a**hole? Or, is it a tacit apology for influencing others to support Trump - to be persuaded by him, and to support him simply because he is good at persuasion - if you're impressed by that sort of thing at at the expense of the truth. According to Adams own philosophy - lies don't matter, as long as one wins. Or, maybe it's a tacit admission and/ or apology for using his supporters for his own personal gain (though...I have my doubts that he regrets that very much). Maybe it's all of the above.
The creator of Dilbert explains Trump's persuasion style and reminds us why people stopped caring about facts
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And it shouldn't be. I'm already seeing concerns about the "girther" movement being fat-shaming and harmful to obese persons in general, not just Trump. IOW, if we are serious about body-shaming being an issue, we can't body-shame anyone, even Trump. There are legitimate reasons to go after him. His size is not one of them.
It's the size of his ego that people are shaming. If he was as jolly and generous Santa Claus nobody'd be making fun of his weight. And they're not making fun of his weight, really. They are making fun of his braggadocio in avoiding acknowledging his own faults and skirting the truth.