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Thanks @UnDefinitive - I had the real world and WC2 mixed up. I've never seen anyone call you Rita or Henry here, your post cleared up my confusion :)
 
@Pr. Jae ... I am beginning to find WC2 rather redundant ... same stories...different threads ... pretty much everyone is locked into their own BS ... ... I have learned a lot here ... I am grateful ... The LGBT's are of no more significance to me than any other animal person place or thing that is being manipulated by the corporate crafters of the New World Order ... you have heard it all before ... there are not too many more ways to say it ... I think the opposite of very good is very evil ... too evil for most of us to want to look at ... I enjoy the good but I cannot ignore the evil ... not looking at it is not making it go away ... so ... it may seem to some that read my 'doom & gloom' think that I am bitter and judgmental ... I am not ... nor am I self righteous ... sometimes I have righteous anger ... almost always directed at the evil psychopaths that are pulling the strings ... most of us are not even aware that we are puppets and some of us don't even care ... fine with me ... unless of course it involves innocent bystanders ... especially children and animals ... that is where my tolerance ends ... discrimination is not always a bad thing in my books ... you have to be discriminating to find the truth ... so ... this little light of mine ... I'm going to let it shine ... I am looking for the missing children ...
 
Transgendered people? I believe them real interesting studies ... closer to the manifestation of a mind inclusiove ot grandparents, parents and children ... of both sex ... thus creating friction and pyre in an ethereal domain ... the place of intellect in a dumb world set on destruction of anything disliked. Imagine If there are parts out there that include dislike of all things ... a negative god or just physical deviate ... meta-physical communication of an unearthy spyer? IsPiUr spelt rite ...
 
In a world of chaos (battle between Re Pubs and demos) is there confusion about genre and gender?

In the essence of psyche (a dark spirit according to the flaring type) there are things the oligarchs wouldn't like you to know and thus they place this in the media ... so you would absorb it ... if you didn't question such ideals (gods of a different order?).

Thus you wouldn't know unless crossing the line between real and unreal spirits ... passing emotions ... or just a thin crossing order of an encounter with the mystique of emotional outcomes!

These are best observed from outside perspective as defined in ethereal manna .... if only we could squeeze the jui'ces from that inner domain ... where the emotional intellect resides as a recluse ... recessive jin as archetype --- N Frye and William Blake in collusion .. about things accepted as they are ... Star track --- just observe ... you might learn something ... Pragmatic forbidden territory (from bottom line perspective) something to chew about round a smudge on the cave Wahl ... rumination of distance ... the aughts?

Now if you haven't encounter a "jin" could you relate on this experience that you never had if chi 'z a dark one .. like Sa'Rae was to a Brae'Ham just messing around? After that the demons started arriving ... thoughts and the outcome of emotional input ...
 
Tread lightly when crossing over the lesser solar absorption ... the warmed earth? Isn't that a cool myth about the dirt supporting physical souls?

As in the derriere of Lon'Don: "And I shall hear tho' soft you tread above me ... etc, etc ... and I shall sleep in peace until you come to me."

Isn't that touché ... or similar to the learning curve described in Matthew 18:3 of children's ability with abstracting what they don't know ...

Einstein found this a curiosity in XY=unity from which he extracted the relativity principle that transposes to Y-1/x .. or the inverse function of the un knowing ... on the other side it is recalled as resurrection of wisdom ... a humbling experience once you see what you've done to the other side ...

Does every person have a flighty child within that can be corrupted by men with dark pursuits --- Machiavelli! There are those that would like to screw up everything ... to places far beyond foundational knowledge ... by savaging souls and looking them up ... emotionally by stating that emotions are all there is ... while thoughts recess in terror ... they are red while leaving blue when approaching ... even if not receptive the outcome can be a like bullock in China ... mad dogs and English spin on truth? There are sublime implications affixed with the oriental part of psyche ... eastern if heading north from the land of Rueben ... down under a Baca ... conjugal nature of the soul-spirit connecter? tis a Jaer'n event ... spoken of in holy texts that are missing portions ... thus the myth goes on as men lay waste to parts of everything ...
 
Pr. Jae said:
By way of Facebook, I've recently come across many articles from various Christian sources on the subject, "How should the Church Respond to Caitlyn Jenner?"

A summary...

  • Caitlyn Jenner is a broken person, as are we all.
  • Caitlyn Jenner needs Christian love, as do we all.
  • The high amount of publicity surrounding Caitlyn Jenner is really about the radical moral changes our society is demanding.
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Ok Jae .... I now have a bit of time to address the doublespeak I already alluded to.
Here we go...
Caitlyn Jenner is a broken person, as are we all.
Translation: ..... Caitlyn is sinning by pursuing becoming a "woman" ... the "as are we all" is added to soften the blow ...sort of like wearing a nice velvet glove when punching someone in the face.
Caitlyn Jenner needs Christian love, as do we all.
Translation: ..... Caitlyn needs to turn from her pursuit of becoming a woman .... accept being a man .... repent and ask God for forgiveness ..... change of velvet glove for this punch because the last glove is a bit bloody.
The high amount of publicity surrounding Caitlyn Jenner is really about the radical moral changes our society is demanding.
Translation: Transgenderism is a terribly morally wrong and corrupt reality that is being embraced by an evil world.
All I can say to that is I challenge them to meet me and my friends....
Shall we start with your church Jae????
I hereby offer to make a special trip to meet and sit and dialogue with the leadership of your local church.
Do you dare take my offer to them?
 
RitaTG said:
Ok Jae .... I now have a bit of time to address the doublespeak I already alluded to.
Here we go...
Caitlyn Jenner is a broken person, as are we all.
Translation: ..... Caitlyn is sinning by pursuing becoming a "woman" ... the "as are we all" is added to soften the blow ...sort of like wearing a nice velvet glove when punching someone in the face.
Caitlyn Jenner needs Christian love, as do we all.
Translation: ..... Caitlyn needs to turn from her pursuit of becoming a woman .... accept being a man .... repent and ask God for forgiveness ..... change of velvet glove for this punch because the last glove is a bit bloody.
The high amount of publicity surrounding Caitlyn Jenner is really about the radical moral changes our society is demanding.
Translation: Transgenderism is a terribly morally wrong and corrupt reality that is being embraced by an evil world.
All I can say to that is I challenge them to meet me and my friends....
Shall we start with your church Jae????
I hereby offer to make a special trip to meet and sit and dialogue with the leadership of your local church.
Do you dare take my offer to them?
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First RitaTG, your biases are showing. You are reading things into my summary of the articles which may not be there. My interpretation of the articles is more along the lines of, "Judge not, lest ye yourselves s be judged."

Second, when you speak of my taking your offer "to them," are you cognizant of the fact that I am one of "them?" I am the Intern Pastor, and one of the Deacons.
 
RitaUndefinative ...... I do hope that is name is ok to make it easier and more clear as to which Rita is being spoken of.
RitaTG for me ..... this way the distinction is very clear .......
Now I would ask you ...... does a person need to meet some external moral standard in order to claim to be a woman or a man?
I do hope the answer is no..... the moral standing of a person has no bearing on whether they are a woman or a man.
Then in a similar way Caitlyn has the very same right to make her claim to womanhood regardless of perceived moral standing.
Caitlyn is a woman ..... and that is that..... regardless ......
New World Order ..... exploitation .... my goodness you have a troubled viewpoint.
The personal need for Caitlyn to do what she is doing is so very deeply personal.
New world order.... LGBT agendas ...... whatever ...... have no place in this deeply personal struggle.
This I know personally ...... Caitlyn is doing what she must regardless of the opinion of society and external agendas.
 
Pr. Jae said:
First RitaTG, your biases are showing. You are reading things into my summary of the articles which may not be there. My interpretation of the articles is more along the lines of, "Judge not, lest ye yourselves s be judged."

Second, when you speak of my taking your offer "to them," are you cognizant of the fact that I am one of "them?" I am the Intern Pastor, and one of the Deacons.
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Thank you for finally replying in a useful way Jae ...... those are your interpretations and I accept that they are genuine.
What I posted is the message that someone like me gets..... and there is a lot of history behind it.
When one reads such articles the stench of condemnation is strong.
 
Pr. Jae said:
First RitaTG, your biases are showing. You are reading things into my summary of the articles which may not be there. My interpretation of the articles is more along the lines of, "Judge not, lest ye yourselves s be judged."

Second, when you speak of my taking your offer "to them," are you cognizant of the fact that I am one of "them?" I am the Intern Pastor, and one of the Deacons.
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Yes I am aware of your position in the local church.
And if my understanding is correct ..... you are not the senior pastor....
I suspect the decision for such a meeting would be his.
Regardless ..... even if such a decision is yours to make ....my offer still stands and is sincere
 
RitaTG said:
Yes I am aware of your position in the local church.
And if my understanding is correct ..... you are not the senior pastor....
I suspect the decision for such a meeting would be his.
Regardless ..... even if such a decision is yours to make ....my offer still stands and is sincere
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He would decline such an offer. I'm sure you'll find that to be the case in the majority, if not all, conservative evangelical churches. Some Senior Pastors might be willing to mew with you if you say you're struggling against being transgendered and want to break free.
 
Pr. Jae said:
He would decline such an offer. I'm sure you'll find that to be the case in the majority, if not all, conservative evangelical churches. Some Senior Pastors might be willing to mew with you if you say you're struggling against being transgendered and want to break free.
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I formally ask that you take my request to the senior pastor anyways.
And you have put your finger on exactly what is wrong with the conservative evangelical movement.
Please ... sincerely ..... let the senior pastor answer for himself ..... please bring my request to him
 
Is the soul gender, or genre-neutral or trending away from the body in which it is hung up ... like the female soul mate in a man, or vice versa?

Which one of the triad is allowed to ask questions or is that left to an outsider? Probably why religious clichés do not allow outsiders questions although the book says: "question all things" ... to find out if they have the spirit of thought ... a brae-in shock? Wouldn't that be a devil of an unconscious indecisiveness ... as if waiting for more info? Could make God's dark side shimmer with giggles ...
 
RitaTG said:
I formally ask that you take my request to the senior pastor anyways.
And you have put your finger on exactly what is wrong with the conservative evangelical movement.
Please ... sincerely ..... let the senior pastor answer for himself ..... please bring my request to him
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Why have you singled out me to make such a request of RitaTG. There are many churches represented here. If I were in your place, and felt that I had a pressing issue that needed to be addressed, what I would do is to dialogue with everyone who was willing to. Moreover, I would approach first those I thought most open to having such reflection. I would not begin by targeting churches whom I felt were most antagonistic to such a conversation.
 
RitaTG said:
Caitlyn is a woman ..... and that is that..... regardless ......
New World Order ..... exploitation .... my goodness you have a troubled viewpoint.
The personal need for Caitlyn to do what she is doing is so very deeply personal.
New world order.... LGBT agendas ...... whatever ...... have no place in this deeply personal struggle.
This I know personally ...... Caitlyn is doing what she must regardless of the opinion of society and external agendas.
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... Jenner’s transformation was neither intimate nor personal:
It was a grand, ceremonial, ritualistic event that symbolizes a change in society as a whole.
It was part of the elite’s agenda to debase, confuse and mix up the order of things.
It was about steering away from what is real to move towards the artificial and the constructed.
It was about the feminization of the male and the masculinization of the female.
It was a celebration of men who act like females and females who act like men.

I ... personally do not have a problem with that.
I ... personally DO have a problem with the other side of this agenda

Mass media portrays men and women acting as traditional men and women (who do not feel the need to apologize for it) ... as evil and wrong.
Mass media is heavily focusing on attacking the mind of the youth with messages that lead to unnecessary confusion around excessive sexualization and choice of gender roles.
Mass media, presents Kardashian-Jenner 'reality' as not only desirable but achievable as an all-American product.

... Europe also went through its ritualistic, transgender event.


Conchita Wurst was the winner of Eurovision 2014.
To further confuse everybody (including other transgenders) Conchita wears a beard.(n)

Today’s elite is hell-bent on twisting the minds of our youth with an unhealthy obsession on transgendered media pawns.

I ... personally am not against transgender people who decide to make a change because it makes them happy.
I ... personally am against the exploitation of transgender people to push an Agenda.

The Caitlyn Jenner story was orchestrated to bring specific concepts to the forefront, notably the complete reversal of gender roles.
The elite want the masses (especially the youth) to be completely out of balance ... to keep them confused and malleable and even suicidal.

Caitlyn’s “courage” deemed superior to Lauren Hill (college athlete who played basketball despite an inoperable brain tumor who died this year).

Caitlyn will be the subject of her own reality show … doesn't get more 'personal' than that!
 
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