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Trans-women in women's sports
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Caitlyn Marie Jenner (born William Bruce Jenner; October 28, 1949), formerly known as Bruce Jenner, is an American media personality and retired Olympic gold medal-winning decathlete.
The reality star - who previously told USA Today that she'd received 'more flak for being a conservative Republican than I have for being trans' - is arguably one of the most famous LGBTQ+ athletes, having won an Olympic gold medal in the decathlon at the height of her career.
The reality star - who previously told USA Today that she'd received 'more flak for being a conservative Republican than I have for being trans' - is arguably one of the most famous LGBTQ+ athletes, having won an Olympic gold medal in the decathlon at the height of her career.
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Her celebrity status gives her an outsized voice. It’s a hasty generalization/ isolated example fallacy. But she’s got connections and money to push her opinion. Has every male to female transitioned professional athlete been consulted for their opinions? (If they are hard to find because there’s so very few then this is a mountain made of a molehill.) Trump Republicans have lost their minds. They are systematically attacking all minority rights.
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<audience aside> we transwomen really thrive when we have a good pit crew. our transmission can get all hot and borked *waggles eyebrows*
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Nicole Powers used to compete against women — but Powers came to the realization that it was unfair.
Powers is a transgender woman who has golfed against biological females.
Powers has also competed in many other sports.
“I had to take a step back and realize that biological realities are real and competitive advantages will always exist despite the number of years or whatever surgeries and hormones you’ve done, and then understood that my place is not in women’s sports,” Powers said in a recent interview with OutKick.
Powers is a transgender woman who has golfed against biological females.
Powers has also competed in many other sports.
“I had to take a step back and realize that biological realities are real and competitive advantages will always exist despite the number of years or whatever surgeries and hormones you’ve done, and then understood that my place is not in women’s sports,” Powers said in a recent interview with OutKick.
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To argue that trans identifying as female in women's sports is a non issue, given that fewer than 1% of the population identify as trans women is ridiculous, IMO
If only 1% of women's sports competitors identify as trans women, but they beat 95% of biological women in physical competitions then surely that's even more concerning?
The smaller their minority the bigger the advantage when they're beating a large majority consistently.
All it takes is ONE transgender female to break a world record of ALL women.
Only about 1% of people are champion athletes too.
If only 1% of women's sports competitors identify as trans women, but they beat 95% of biological women in physical competitions then surely that's even more concerning?
The smaller their minority the bigger the advantage when they're beating a large majority consistently.
All it takes is ONE transgender female to break a world record of ALL women.
Only about 1% of people are champion athletes too.
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Right wingers didn't give a s**t about women's sports until they realized they could use it as a wedge issue.
I like sports. I like competition. My daughter competed in skiing at a decent level. I know of no trans women in competitive ski racing.
In the end, it's manufactured outrage over a thing that almost never happens, because they can get people worked up over a thing morons can puff their chests out over and declare they have common sense on their side.
On the other side, trans women should have a competitive outlet should they choose. But the best women in any sport will beat all but the top men in that sport, so any trans woman would have to be pretty darn good to compete. Add in the testosterone blockers and estrogen taken by most trans women, and the traditional male advantages shrink.
Maybe there are answers in testosterone testing. But I do know this is a tempest in a teapot that appeals to people who actively avoid the WNBA, women's soccer, hockey, etc. and have chosen this subject as their only real interest in women's athletics outside of beach volleyball.
I like sports. I like competition. My daughter competed in skiing at a decent level. I know of no trans women in competitive ski racing.
In the end, it's manufactured outrage over a thing that almost never happens, because they can get people worked up over a thing morons can puff their chests out over and declare they have common sense on their side.
On the other side, trans women should have a competitive outlet should they choose. But the best women in any sport will beat all but the top men in that sport, so any trans woman would have to be pretty darn good to compete. Add in the testosterone blockers and estrogen taken by most trans women, and the traditional male advantages shrink.
Maybe there are answers in testosterone testing. But I do know this is a tempest in a teapot that appeals to people who actively avoid the WNBA, women's soccer, hockey, etc. and have chosen this subject as their only real interest in women's athletics outside of beach volleyball.
We must treat everyone with respect, including transgender people. Sports must be about pushing limits, teamwork, and making sure everyone feels included. Let's all create spaces where everyone feels welcome and appreciated.
We must not forget what's most important. Sports help us all connect with each other. We must all try to find answers that are fair and inclusive
A giggle-worthy cliam of breath-taking ignorance!
You just need to read more American papers. This past year, the news here regularly featured news of women's college teams forfeiting games rather than have to compete against the other team's trans player.
66% 0f Americans oppose trans women in women's sports:
66% of US adults oppose transgender girls competing on female sports teams, new survey reveals
A solid majority of American adults believe transgender girls should not be allowed to compete on girls’ sports teams, with two-thirds saying it should be permitted “never” or …
More importantly, the governing body of college athletics has changed their policy to crack down on trans athletes invading women's sporos:
"The NCAA has changed its participation policy for transgender athletes, limiting competition in women's sports to those assigned female at birth."
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@ chansen:
- "Nearly two-thirds of those watching NCAA women’s college basketball and FIFA women’s soccer are men. Half of WNBA viewers are men.
- Half of NCAA women’s college basketball viewership are men 55 years of age and older, while one-third of WNBA and FIFA women’s soccer watchers are young adults under 35 years of age."
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I remember this moment fondly
She did so much, leading the way for all women
She did so much, leading the way for all women
Yes, and as Caitlin herself argues as a trans, trans, it is unfair to allow trans women in women's sports.
Get where Caitlyn is coming from, and I respect what she's been through. But, I still think it's key to have places where everyone feels welcome and like they belong. Sports must be all about celebrating how different we all are and everyone's own story. It's not easy to be fair and inclusive, but it's a talk we must have, and we must do it with kindness and understanding
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