Sex

[PilgrimsProgress]

My mum started menstruating at 10 -and, knowing nothing, it was a huge shock for her.

Sooo, determined not to make the same mistake, she tried to talk to my sister and I when we were 7 and 9, she gave us this book to read, entitled "You're A Young Lady Now". On the cover there was this girl looking into a mirror wearing jeans and sneakers. On the other side of the mirror there was this woman with a beehive hairstyle, ball gown and high heels.

Geez, at 9, this was a shock!!!

And then when I read about bleeding once a month from "down there" (it didn't even have a name!) I went from shock to horror.

This put me into a state of cognitive dissonance - not that I knew it at the time - but denial did seem the best solution for a nine years old kid.

'Well, what do you think?" asked Mum.

"I don't believe a word of it", I replied. "It says when you bleed you, you wear these pads. How come I've never seen sheep in the paddock wearing pads - and they have baby sheep?"

"Chris", said Mum sounding somewhat exasperated, "You're impossible - forget about the bloody sheep."

 

[Pinga]

Haha @PilgrimsProgress . You are mu cousin, aren't you.

I had skipped, so was a year younger than most of the girls in my class. The class was in grade 6. I would have been 11.
I know my mom had had little teaching. She also reflected years later that she went to sleep and woke up with a baby. (ie, she was unconscious for delivery).
I have memories like Carolla -- the movie night -- girls go with mon, boys with dads. The embarrassment.

The box of pads in the cupboard for when you needed it. You never asked for more, they just magically were refilled.

The furtive discussions re tampax. My best friend was much more knowledgeable, and had aunts that were not that much older than her.

I think that I learned the most when I bought myself the book "our bodies, ourselves"
Published in 1973 -- it was an "underground" type book which was talked about, shared, and basically went viral .
History - Our Bodies Ourselves

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

When I was well in my pre teens, I got this picture book for Christmaswhich was literally about the bees and the birds ( actually it started with flowers, then bees then dogs and then a couple shown in a bed under a blanket.
I was confused and gave it back to my parents saying that someone must have mixed up the gifts and gave me a book for babies.

I have two older sisters, so they gave me the info I needed and also accompanied me to my first appointment with the gyn.

I made a point in mentioning to my son early, that family rumour was that my oldest sister was conceived without having intercourse and that was the reason my parents had to marry.

 

[Seeler]

My mum started menstruating at 10 -and, knowing nothing, it was a huge shock for her.

Sooo, determined not to make the same mistake, she tried to talk to my sister and I when we were 7 and 9, she gave us this book to read, entitled "You're A Young Lady Now". On the cover there was this girl looking into a mirror wearing jeans and sneakers. On the other side of the mirror there was this woman with a beehive hairstyle, ball gown and high heels.

Geez, at 9, this was a shock!!!

 

[Seeler]

Pilgrim, I had that very same booklet - even the same picture on the front - given to all the girls in Grade 7 at my school in girl's only 'Heath and Human Development' class. Boys had a separate class. Some useful information about the body but almost nothing about sexual relationships and certainly nothing about birth control.
Since we were 12 or 13 by then, it was a bit late for many of us. I had already started menstrating - with a minimum of info from Mom, mainly about how to wear the pad, and 'not to mention it in front of my dad or brother'. Lots of faulty info frrom other girls. Friends dropping out of school for quickly arranged marriages. And me - three pregnancies (one resulting in a miscarriage) in less than two years. Who knew that you could get pregnant having sex just after having a period, and while still breast-feeding?

 

[Luce NDs]

Mostly heard about it in school. My formal sex-ed began in grade one.



I didn't.



I feel that it is chiefly the responsibility of parents. I also feel that spiritual leaders should teach the spiritual aspects of sex to their faith communities.

In de course of screwed up events in a world that despises to know and question authorities ... could be secular loss ... considering all that we don't know ... and few wish to! Gnoe that is ... or in Africa represented with Gnu past tense of the awkward item used as metaphor ...

Don't know what I am speaking of? Good indication ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Jae stated in contrast to the light of observation of our stupid situation ...

Would you pay to have someone teach your kids about the birds and the bees?
...
I would not.​

Thus kids remain secularly stunned ... naïveté incarnate? --- Jack and the kids ...

The story of humanity is for the goads ... bump!

 

[Luce NDs]

My parents did very badly at my sex education, and I'm assuming that they learned this from their parents. I had pamplets titled "now you are 10" left on my bed so that I was, at least, not horrified by my developing body and the huge inconvenience that is menstruation. I'm not sure how much the health unit in high school covered; suffice to say, little enough that I was pregnant at 15. I did an EXTREMELY thorough job of my own children's sexual education, including moral and psychological aspects, and my very own illustrations, which to this day, cause my kids to chuckle. There's a fair bit of nude art in my house. I was never terribly freaked out about nudity or discussing sex, and my family continues much the same.

Rye is good even in a catch 22 situation ... damned if you do and damned if not ... thus the dark and occult is large and strange as the far AEster lies ... tis representative of what we don't know as stored in the Shadow attribute ... a mental item of vast ness ... excellent in mythology!

 

[Luce NDs]

All of the conservative Baptist pastors I have met teach and preach along the same lines - sex is a gift God gave to consenting married persons in traditional, opposite-sex marriages. Anything else, they have said, is sinful.

Not knowing much is a great item of aversion to intelligence ... consider government and other power's attitudes to what wee know ...

Tis shocking ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Learned mostly from the back seat of the car.

In car nation of learning about secular's tuff? You see I can't say it ... for it is illegal for me to judge what you know or don't ... its law! By I can learn by observing --- King Lear?

 

[Jaebius]

Jae stated in contrast to the light of observation of our stupid situation ...

Would you pay to have someone teach your kids about the birds and the bees?
...
I would not.​

Thus kids remain secularly stunned ... naïveté incarnate? --- Jack and the kids ...

The story of humanity is for the goads ... bump!

Luce, I feel that it is chiefly the responsibility of parents to teach their kids about sex. I don't feel we should have to pay them to do so anymore than we pay them to teach their lids about anything else.

 

[Luce NDs]

Well, that doesn't sound like much fun at all. My kids and I talked a lot about the value of masturbation as an on-going trick to try to make sure one is not entirely driven by hormones.

Sati-8 is a required thing of pounding hormones ... in the subcontinent they even had an Icon for it Seti? You can't beat it ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Oh let's see if I can remember!

Grade 7 - boys in this room, girls in another for "THE MOVIE". Menstruation YUCK. Intercourse - NO WAY - that's just a gross thing to even think about!! Of course we were sworn to secrecy not to tell the "other" group about our movie - or so it seemed anyway.

Mom had a little book ... discreetly showed up on my dresser one day after a visit to the doctor at which time he asked my mom if we'd had "the talk". So much code language!!

Then of course you'd go to the grocery store to buy menstrual pads that came in a box almost as big as the shopping cart itself!! No way to be discrete about that!! Furtively checking out who (often some fellow student) was working at the cash, who was packing the groceries - they didn't need to see THIS!!

There was that girl in Grade 9 who got pregnant ... WHAT???

Then there was a texbook belonging to my aunt who was a nurse - obs & gynie - scary pictures!!

With my own kids, I did talk with them although we both felt kinda uncomfortable, and I got some of the eye-rolling "oh mom" looks. I did also furnish them with a couple of well chosen books on sexuality & sexual activities - better to know from a positive source than not know. I always made sure birth control was accessible to them.

I was told that sacred codes did not exist ... he bible was as superficial as it could get ... nothing deeper ... except for the Latin expression heiro gamma ... underlying meaning? Adpts ...?????????

 

[Luce NDs]

Pilgrim, I had that very same booklet - even the same picture on the front - given to all the girls in Grade 7 at my school in girl's only 'Heath and Human Development' class. Boys had a separate class. Some useful information about the body but almost nothing about sexual relationships and certainly nothing about birth control.
Since we were 12 or 13 by then, it was a bit late for many of us. I had already started menstrating - with a minimum of info from Mom, mainly about how to wear the pad, and 'not to mention it in front of my dad or brother'. Lots of faulty info frrom other girls. Friends dropping out of school for quickly arranged marriages. And me - three pregnancies (one resulting in a miscarriage) in less than two years. Who knew that you could get pregnant having sex just after having a period, and while still breast-feeding?

Does latent fit human linguistic al exhortation?

 

[Luce NDs]

Luce, I feel that it is chiefly the responsibility of parents to teach their kids about sex. I don't feel we should have to pay them to do so anymore than we pay them to teach their lids about anything else.

But what If the general population of parents (eM, paradigm) are more stunned than we'd believe?

Falls under the aggressive aversion to my father can beat your father ... and so the strikes go on ... mental blows?

 

[Jaebius]

But what If the general population of parents (eM, paradigm) are more stunned than we'd believe?

Falls under the aggressive aversion to my father can beat your father ... and so the strikes go on ... mental blows?

I give the general population of parents more credit than that Luce.

 

[Luce NDs]

I give the general population of parents more credit than that Luce.

Therein lies the rift ...

 

[BetteTheRed]

Apparently, Jae is in favour of increased rates of teen pregnancies. Because that's what a lack of comprehensive sex education leads to, statistically.

 

[Luce NDs]

Apparently, Jae is in favour of increased rates of teen pregnancies. Because that's what a lack of comprehensive sex education leads to, statistically.

Thus the radical question ... WTF? Still we don't know and continue to wonder where the flowers are gone ...

 

[KayTheCurler]

Yeah - I have a cousin who got pregnant before experiencing her first period. Her mother said she was going to tell her 'everything' when she got her period. Ignorance is definitely not bliss.