Seriously God, you chose them??????

Welcome to Wondercafe2!

A community where we discuss, share, and have some fun together. Join today and become a part of it!

Hi Rev John -- Could you with your teaching lessons . Show me Where Math-Mark- Luke-Paul --went to school. OH wait John I just remember Paul did go to school with the Jewish Ministers. That is He was teaching Ministers in his church. Well he was killing Christians. Because of his teaching. Wait there was another Teacher who never went to the teachers that Paul went to .Because He belonged to Jesus The Christ. He was sent to take away the Blindness from Paul . Please let me know when your having this service in your church or any other U.C.C
Church. Please let me know I will be there. By the way John the first church I went to was U.C.C for two years.

GOD Bless an walk with you. airclean33
 
Why do you feel dum? Some times I can use candy's and flowers. Other times it takes some salt.
Feel free to read those passages I gave Seeler.
Look, I'm not convinced you're an authority on clean air, let alone scripture.

But here's what you asked seeler to read, with links because I try to help people find my citations:

1 Peter 2:9 NIV But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

John 1:12-13 NIV Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

1 John 3:3 NIV All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.​

More "chosen people" stuff, which is pretty ridiculous from the outset. If you're one of the "chosen", then I want no part of the box you find yourself in. All of this is really just inflating the egos of believers, that they are not "born of God" and are "pure" and "chosen". It tells me you're a sucker for anything that flatters you. You're a salesman's dream. Empty words of praise will have you eating out of the palm of their hand. And you've totally bought in. You're completely personally invested in these beliefs.
 
airclean33 said:
Hi Rev John -- Could you with your teaching lessons . Show me Where Math-Mark- Luke-Paul --went to school.

Do you want me to show you where they went to school or do you want me to attempt to compare it to the modern day equivalent?

All of the Apostles did undergo training in their religious texts to some degree. Priests had more training than did the average fisherman or tax-collector. Of course the educational system of 1st Century Palestine did not compare to what is available to the average person today. Even in your own life-time you have seen a tremendous change in education delivery and school systems.

airclean33 said:
OH wait John I just remember Paul did go to school with the Jewish Ministers.

Paul was trained under Gamaliel which we know from scripture. Gamaliel is a Rabbi so he was trained in rabbinical method which is not radically different from seminaries save for most seminaries require you to have demonstrated competency prior to enrolling in seminary programs, particularly if you are seeking a professional degree.

airclean33 said:
That is He was teaching Ministers in his church.

That is a bit of a leap. All we know for certain was that Paul was taught by Gamaliel, we have nothing in scripture showing us that he was engaged in teaching. That he had some standing in the temple seems obvious since he had permission from the temple to seek out followers of the way.

airclean33 said:
Well he was killing Christians. Because of his teaching.

Participating in the killing but from a legalistic perspective he was keeping his hands clean. Holding the cloaks of the folk casting the actual stones but that doesn't really advance your position right?

airclean33 said:
Wait there was another Teacher who never went to the teachers that Paul went to .Because He belonged to Jesus The Christ. He was sent to take away the Blindness from Paul .

Ananias? All scripture tells us about Ananias is that he was a disciple who lived in Damascus. Scripture is silent about what his background was prior to being sent to Saul, he wouldn't be known as Paul for a while yet and interestingly he still, despite previous education participated in further learning with other disciples until he felt strong enough in the Christian perspective to go out on Missionary Journeys

airclean33 said:
Please let me know when your having this service in your church or any other U.C.C

As soon as God calls me to go to anyone's house and baptize them because they are blind I will let you know. I also promise to let you know in the event that God meets me on the road somewhere, tells me I am persecuting him, strikes me blind and sends me to some place like Damascus.

airclean33 said:
Church. Please let me know I will be there. By the way John the first church I went to was U.C.C for two years.

Well I am in Newfoundland and Labrador now so you might want to think twice about making travel plans in such a cavalierly. Especially since you will either have to fly in or take the ferry.

airclean33 said:
GOD Bless an walk with you. airclean33

Thank you and may God bless you also.
 
Look, I'm not convinced you're an authority on clean air, let alone scripture.

But here's what you asked seeler to read, with links because I try to help people find my citations:

1 Peter 2:9 NIV But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

John 1:12-13 NIV Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

1 John 3:3 NIV All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.​

More "chosen people" stuff, which is pretty ridiculous from the outset. If you're one of the "chosen", then I want no part of the box you find yourself in. All of this is really just inflating the egos of believers, that they are not "born of God" and are "pure" and "chosen". It tells me you're a sucker for anything that flatters you. You're a salesman's dream. Empty words of praise will have you eating out of the palm of their hand. And you've totally bought in. You're completely personally invested in these beliefs.
Yes I am Chansen . I walk with GOD every Day. Do I understand all God wishes me to know? No not by a long shot. I am yet a child in my LORDS Kingdom . But I am learning.
 
By the way Chansen --It's funny but I am an expert on clean air. I am a Furness Man who has installed Air units and installed clean air units .I know what a B. T. U. is. I worked on Furness for 30 years.
 
Hi seeler I would say if you .Where reading GODS word more. You would know why I can help. Try 1 Peter 2:9-----John1: 12-13 --1-John-3: -3 GOD Bless You An Help You. airclean33.


Airclean, did you mean: "Hi Seeler. I would say that if you were reading God's word more, you would know why I can help."?
Are you inferring by 'God's Word', the Bible? I do not limit the word of God to one book or one form of revelation.

Also, what makes you think that I don't read the Bible?

Although I seldom read a single verse out of context, out of curiosity I've reread the passages that you suggested.

1 Peter 2: 9 - I don't see anything in this verse that sets you apart to 'explain God's Word to Rev. ....'

John 1: 12-13 - ditto

1 John 3: 3 - ditto

Actually, in these three short sections, I don't see anything that gives you your patronizing attitude. Can you tell me in your own words what makes your understanding of God's revelation superior to the revelation that others, including me, have received through the Holy Spirit?





[/FONT]
 
Last edited:
Do you want me to show you where they went to school or do you want me to attempt to compare it to the modern day equivalent?

All of the Apostles did undergo training in their religious texts to some degree. Priests had more training than did the average fisherman or tax-collector. Of course the educational system of 1st Century Palestine did not compare to what is available to the average person today. Even in your own life-time you have seen a tremendous change in education delivery and school systems.



Paul was trained under Gamaliel which we know from scripture. Gamaliel is a Rabbi so he was trained in rabbinical method which is not radically different from seminaries save for most seminaries require you to have demonstrated competency prior to enrolling in seminary programs, particularly if you are seeking a professional degree.



That is a bit of a leap. All we know for certain was that Paul was taught by Gamaliel, we have nothing in scripture showing us that he was engaged in teaching. That he had some standing in the temple seems obvious since he had permission from the temple to seek out followers of the way.



Participating in the killing but from a legalistic perspective he was keeping his hands clean. Holding the cloaks of the folk casting the actual stones but that doesn't really advance your position right?



Ananias? All scripture tells us about Ananias is that he was a disciple who lived in Damascus. Scripture is silent about what his background was prior to being sent to Saul, he wouldn't be known as Paul for a while yet and interestingly he still, despite previous education participated in further learning with other disciples until he felt strong enough in the Christian perspective to go out on Missionary Journeys



As soon as God calls me to go to anyone's house and baptize them because they are blind I will let you know. I also promise to let you know in the event that God meets me on the road somewhere, tells me I am persecuting him, strikes me blind and sends me to some place like Damascus.



Well I am in Newfoundland and Labrador now so you might want to think twice about making travel plans in such a cavalierly. Especially since you will either have to fly in or take the ferry.



Thank you and may God bless you also.
--Hi Rev John I love to fly . You call I will come. airclean33-Gord.
 
Do any of those passages read, "Blessed are the functionally illiterates, for only they can truly understand these words?"

Just bloes my mine thus that airhole ... Herman's dream?

And the waters pout ... over the non humble nature of the lesser gods ... subtle?
 
Last edited:
Airclean, did you mean: "Hi Seeler. I would say that if you were reading God's word more, you would know why I can help."?
Are you inferring by 'God's Word', the Bible? I do not limit the word of God to one book or one form of revelation.

Also, what makes you think that I don't read the Bible?

Although I seldom read a single verse out of context, out of curiosity I've reread the passages that you suggested.

1 Peter 2: 9 - I don't see anything in this verse that sets you apart to 'explain God's Word to Rev. ....'

John 1: 12-13 - ditto

1 John 3: 3 - ditto

Actually, in these three short sections, I don't see anything that gives you your patronizing attitude. Can you tell me in your own words what makes your understanding of God's revelation superior to the revelation that others, including me, have received through the Holy Spirit?





[/FONT]
Hi Seeler Do you really want to get down to name calling? I just am not going to do this. You have said you have GODS Holy spirit. First can you explain to me then why could you not understand the Word of GOD? Can you tell me why you feel you have GODS Holy Spirit?
 
The word of God is in only one book ... not dispersed as one might imagine an eternal god might be ...

Such trouble to conceive such a dispersed thought as disseminated in tribulation ... the trouble of thought where knowledge is denied!

Does that provide an empiric of naïveté?
 
Yes I am Chansen . I walk with GOD every Day. Do I understand all God wishes me to know? No not by a long shot. I am yet a child in my LORDS Kingdom . But I am learning.
You're trying to teach. And you are failing to teach.
 
You're trying to teach. And you are failing to teach.
Chansen you I take it you have played Hockey. When you first stared were you always Scoring? But once you have played for a wile . You will get better then look out. Many things in this world works this way. Give me a thousand years or so. :)
 
I have never played hockey, outside of ball hockey in public school.

I can ski faster than most people drive.

You need time to learn to teach. You aren't taking it. You are the peewee player trying to coach teach professional players. It's going badly. You won't take the time to learn yourself. You have one move, and you insist that everyone needs to learn your one move, and no other moves are valid.
 
Professional imaging from the wong side? Thus the belle toiles ... tis ab ithchy thought! GONG!

If the eta (N) is silent ... thus go'g ... and it's gruel ...
 
I just want to point out that hockey analogies are difficult for me. Obviously.
 
Do you really want to get down to name calling?

I don't understand your question. Where did I 'get down to name calling?'


can you explain to me then why could you not understand the Word of GOD?

I think I understand it quite well. I question if you understand it though.



Can you tell me why you feel you have GODS Holy Spirit?

Your question does not sound authentic, but rather come across as a challenge as though you do not believe me.
 
Belief and understanding is a disbelievable thing to God's people according to Exodus 20:19 (I think as knowing is beyond me according to some protocol) as when God appeared over the horizon of their perspective they sent the Muses out to talk to him because they didn't wish to see heh'm ... and thus the bias! It is like a fold in the tapestry of heaven.

Einstein called this a dimple, others a pit, and thus the holy space where the dirt on God lies flat out .. an aberration of strange sort ,,, and you know how people that don't know feel about strange things. Is there anything stranger than the psyche, a working mind being the devil to those that don't wish to know much ...

Thus the dirt of life goes round embroidered in stone ... until recycled as dirt ... but the institutions have trouble with footprints older than 6000 Ans. Such is the concern 've that fold in time ... a rift live where Lucy was found in Africa ... a place for future dissonance from the present lies ... of weird presentation!

Does keep the populace stirred tho' like that global theatre in London port raying English Roue's and Rulers ... meta's? Did you know dark rays are found in trees? Gods people hated trees ... very gritty ... asde mon strayed out in the sans ...
 
Hi Seeler---It seems you make many mistakes . There is only one Book that was written by GODS Holy Spirit. Would you mind Pointing out the others please.

Second --
airclean33 said:
Do you really want to get down to name calling?
Click to expand...
I don't understand your question. Where did I 'get down to name calling?'

Airclean--post--Do you not understand your own writing? Taken from 110#
Actually, in these three short sections, I don't see anything that gives you your patronizing attitude. Can you tell me in your own words what makes your understanding of God's revelation superior to the revelation that others, including me, have received through the Holy Spirit?
 
Back
Top