Seriously God, you chose them??????

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What'zn aimer ... someone intending to save the world from the previous word ... whereas man must Dei?

Twas in the earlier plan ... interfered with by some believing they had God's energy? Twas a flawed power ... like synergy ... but nothing was Sharon ... and thus the diminishment according to nemesis after the high vanity (hubris)?

Thus it went as Gone With the Wind ... and thus it blew ... the sense of equanimity ... because some wanted more ... the icon of avarice ...

Few understood ... behaving as God peoples ... outstanding in their pastoral field ... or so it was said ... orally past comprehension?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Here's an interesting question, then. Why do the Jews accept their prophets/leading lights as flawed, but Christianity insists on a flawless Jesus?
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Wow BettetheRed were do you get this from? The Jews were trying to kill Christ . From the day He was born. When He prophetside .In The synague Jesus said;s who He is , well reading from The Coran they were going to stone Him. I Believe the Jewish law read . If a Prophets," words don't come true they were to kill Him or Her.
 
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Jesus was a Jew. He was crucified, a Roman punishment, by Romans. Where you get this stuff from? Too literal a reading of John, I suspect.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Jesus was a Jew. He was crucified, a Roman punishment, by Romans. Where you get this stuff from? Too literal a reading of John, I suspect.
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--Your right the Jews did not by themselves kill Christ Jesus .The Romans, were the ones in charge of life and death for a crime" not the Jews. But they yelled the loudest to Kill Jesus The Christ.
 
People can yell all they want. I don't suppose a Roman prelate was any more swayed by yelling townspeople than would be a judge today. A real close analysis of some of the texts indicates that "the Jews" so defamed by John, usually meant "the Jewish priesthood" and that the large groups following Jesus around weren't necessarily the same, perhaps smaller groups, who called for his crucifixion.

Also, analyze your statement. They were in Jerusalem, a city of Jewish people. Aside from a few Romans and Greeks, particularly at Passover, the crowds would have been almost entirely Jewish. If there's 100 people yelling something, and 1 person yelling something, who yells loudest? The group that there's the most of...
 
BetteTheRed said:
People can yell all they want. I don't suppose a Roman prelate was any more swayed by yelling townspeople than would be a judge today. A real close analysis of some of the texts indicates that "the Jews" so defamed by John, usually meant "the Jewish priesthood" and that the large groups following Jesus around weren't necessarily the same, perhaps smaller groups, who called for his crucifixion.

Also, analyze your statement. They were in Jerusalem, a city of Jewish people. Aside from a few Romans and Greeks, particularly at Passover, the crowds would have been almost entirely Jewish. If there's 100 people yelling something, and 1 person yelling something, who yells loudest? The group that there's the most of...
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--Matt--27:--15--26 --Will you believe your own eyes.
 
Sometimes there's nothing worse than what appears to be your best friend and is not (one definition of incarnate) ... and thus alternate perspectives ...

Serves diversity ... as God looks for other pathees/pathos ... with humans tis a pain !
 
airclean33 said:
Wow BettetheRed were do you get this from? The Jews were trying to kill Christ . From the day He was born. When He prophetside .In The synague Jesus said;s who He is , well reading from The Coran they were going to stone Him. I Believe the Jewish law read . If a Prophets," words don't come true they were to kill Him or Her.
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So why do you still believe in Jewish words, which is pretty much the bedrock of our faith? OT and all that jazz...
 
Can anyone prove "heaven, angels or miracles"? Of course not. Not any more than anyone can prove life after death or a Universe before the Big Bang. The best we can ever do to prove God is to know our own being: our physical, our emotional and our mental attributes, etc, and then extrapolate God from that. As above, so below. We are a microcosm of a macrocosm, like a mirror reflecting the heavens on a clear night. Can I prove any of that either? No. But it sure makes a lot more sense than nothing at all existing before birth or after death.
 
To begin heaven is a state of mind and for some time now thinking has been depressed and opposed .. as Muses in the face of God ...

A powerful love can overwhelm thoughts ... thus they's 'unque ... love should be like thought scattered as medium?
 
airclean33 said:
- Why Inanna ? Because even though they did not want Him . He still wanted them. There is also that promise that was made to Abraham.
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Well there is that whole thing about Jesus not actually fulfilling the Messianic job description (convinced that they had seen God at work in Jesus, his followers re-visioned what the Messiah would be.) so which may explain in part why some segments of the society did not accept him. ANd some did not accept him because they never heard form/of him. And some because he was upsetting the apple cart. 1st century Judaism was hardly one monolithic society.

ANd nothing in reputable Christian circles suggests that the promises made to Abraham and Jacob were ever lifted from those people and placed on Christians.
 
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Hi GordW--Well Rev I should not have to explain GODS Word to you. But will try and help.

GordW said:
Well there is that whole thing about Jesus not actually fulfilling the Messianic job description (convinced that they had seen God at work in Jesus, his followers re-visioned what the Messiah would be.) so which may explain in part why some segments of the society did not accept him. ANd some did not accept him because they never heard form/of him. And some because he was upsetting the apple cart. 1st century Judaism was hardly one monolithic society.

ANd nothing in reputable Christian circles suggests that the promises made to Abraham and Jacob were ever lifted from those people and placed on Christians.
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In Well there is that whole thing about Jesus not actually fulfilling the Messianic job description
This of course this is man judgment . God seem to think He did a great job. You can believe man or GOD, it is your choice .
I am not sure of part of you post here. It may just be a spell mistake, which as you know I never make.heard form/of him.
I take it you mean they did not know or recognize the Christ, in that He didn't do some of the things they thought He would do. We know by having The Book of Rev. Many of the things they were looking for would happen on His Second coming. Oh yes He did upset the apple cart. The church at that time did not like Him.
That is the Priest---Nor will they on His second coming.

Also as you know , Juda is not the only tribe of Israel . It is very mixed up today. Indeed Israel is part of many country's through out the World.
As far as " being a part of Israel . We put on Christ Jesus , was not He a Jew by Birth? Let alone we are GODS Chosen People. God Bless you Rev GordW. airclean33.
 
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