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BetteTheRed
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Excellent news to report from Baela and Mr NW. I have problems with irresponsible dog owners.
I was always afraid that Lucy would attack another dog, but her 'long leash' was 6' and she wore a Halti. She was fine unless a small dog approached her. She didn't approve and let the other dog know very clearly. She didn't love large dogs, either, except the few (3-5) she was friends with. I had to be pretty alert. Sometimes we just had to walk in another direction until we escaped. And she was totally terrifying with kids, so I just had to alert them. I taught a lot of kids and parents what a Yellow Ribbon dog is, and Lucy always wore her yellow ribbon.
I was always afraid that Lucy would attack another dog, but her 'long leash' was 6' and she wore a Halti. She was fine unless a small dog approached her. She didn't approve and let the other dog know very clearly. She didn't love large dogs, either, except the few (3-5) she was friends with. I had to be pretty alert. Sometimes we just had to walk in another direction until we escaped. And she was totally terrifying with kids, so I just had to alert them. I taught a lot of kids and parents what a Yellow Ribbon dog is, and Lucy always wore her yellow ribbon.
Northwind
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Well what a range of emotions today. I called to ask if the park was doing anything. (I see gremlins got into my post above about going to the office. That was this morning, not tomorrow... 
) I was told they are going to block off part of the site with a log. As if that will deter people, especially kids. The dog has to be on a shorter tie out and supervised. I couldn't get an answer on a requirement to wear a muzzle. 
Hubby went to talk to the people. He was having a reasonable conversation with the man. The woman came out and said they would not be paying ANYTHING because he and the dog were trespassing. Apparently she was a delight. 
*sarcasm Hubby was so angry when he came in after talking to that delightful woman. I called the office to see if they had told them that. It doesn't sound like they did. Knowing the owner though, I wonder if he said something that let them interpret things that way. I told the woman I was talking to that if that's the case, it's the same as telling a woman she was raped because she was drunk. At any rate, I told the woman that it is probably best we're leaving tomorrow because the break will be good and because it won't feel completely safe with that dog around if it isn't wearing a muzzle. She understood. I sure hope the dog doesn't hurt someone else here. We feel a little prickly right now. We're also mindful of how we respond because we don't want to be considered the troublemakers.
Ugh.
) I was told they are going to block off part of the site with a log. As if that will deter people, especially kids. The dog has to be on a shorter tie out and supervised. I couldn't get an answer on a requirement to wear a muzzle. Hubby went to talk to the people. He was having a reasonable conversation with the man. The woman came out and said they would not be paying ANYTHING because he and the dog were trespassing. Apparently she was a delight. *sarcasm Hubby was so angry when he came in after talking to that delightful woman. I called the office to see if they had told them that. It doesn't sound like they did. Knowing the owner though, I wonder if he said something that let them interpret things that way. I told the woman I was talking to that if that's the case, it's the same as telling a woman she was raped because she was drunk. At any rate, I told the woman that it is probably best we're leaving tomorrow because the break will be good and because it won't feel completely safe with that dog around if it isn't wearing a muzzle. She understood. I sure hope the dog doesn't hurt someone else here. We feel a little prickly right now. We're also mindful of how we respond because we don't want to be considered the troublemakers. Ugh.
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That's AI and it reduces your mental produce ... you just can't tell anything about large words!
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paradox3
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The yellow ribbon project sounds like a wonderful idea @BetteTheRed
Too bad it's not more widely known. Your post was the first I heard about it.
Too bad it's not more widely known. Your post was the first I heard about it.
Relativity ... can we relate to such alien concepts that we have not yet entered into with some depth of cognizance? Why? Because we didn't wish it to be so ... Sue ... Sous? Attenuation results in some hauling it down into ... a dark space ... eventually buried ...
Can one come out the other side ... and where is it? Again, few do not want to grasp the complicated matters ... as if it were vapor ... us? We too can be gone in a breeze ... brae's? A' Brae Ham is a dark veil ... like Gods ... mostly unseen ... idealistically lost! It is writ ...
In the mean time few can listen, look and speak of it concurrently ... implications break through ...
Can one come out the other side ... and where is it? Again, few do not want to grasp the complicated matters ... as if it were vapor ... us? We too can be gone in a breeze ... brae's? A' Brae Ham is a dark veil ... like Gods ... mostly unseen ... idealistically lost! It is writ ...
In the mean time few can listen, look and speak of it concurrently ... implications break through ...
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Can the great beef not observe himself as a bully when not accepting diversity, etc.? Yes this is from another string into an open thread ...
On another topic Trump is being spoke of as a undesignated God that ... is considered questionable as to whether he is a constructive God or destructive ... yet folk support him based on certain regulations as flaming Ruel ... that's another ancient and buried word! Is it DEI, or DIE that requires a put down?
There's an old adage that declares that power is degrading ... so gone down in history!
On another topic Trump is being spoke of as a undesignated God that ... is considered questionable as to whether he is a constructive God or destructive ... yet folk support him based on certain regulations as flaming Ruel ... that's another ancient and buried word! Is it DEI, or DIE that requires a put down?
There's an old adage that declares that power is degrading ... so gone down in history!
Mendalla
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My aunt (Dad's sister) is now in hospice. She 86 or 87 (need to check, forget her exact age) and hasn't been in the greatest health for years. Long COVID hit her hard for one. One of my brothers is keeping in touch with her son and passing information as he gets it. Her husband is 90 now (same age as Dad would be) and still seems pretty spry. Didn't even get COVID when she had it even though they were living together in fairly close quarters at the time. Something about being Swiss?
And we actually have a family next door now. Thirtysomething (by my estimate) couple with three young kids and nice doggo. We've had retirees on both sides for years so nice to see the neighbourhood started to get younger again. The couple across the street have a young kid, too. The house two doors over is still on the market. Not sure why it isn't moving faster. He signed on with the same agent as the house next door just after they closed.
And we actually have a family next door now. Thirtysomething (by my estimate) couple with three young kids and nice doggo. We've had retirees on both sides for years so nice to see the neighbourhood started to get younger again. The couple across the street have a young kid, too. The house two doors over is still on the market. Not sure why it isn't moving faster. He signed on with the same agent as the house next door just after they closed.
Northwind
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Good morning. We're on the move today. It will be a busy day since I also have a doctor's appointment this afternoon. Luckily there's not a ton of geography involved.
I'll have to stop into the office when we check out. I've decided to say something about how the park handled the situation with the aggressive dog. The dog for point of reference is a handsome, muscular, large pit bull. I'd put him around 100 pounds. Our girl is a small golden, about 55 pounds. The couple who have the pit said the park told them Hubby was to blame because he trespassed on their property. (as if they own the site ) I don't believe that's what the guy from the park said. Still, that's what they heard, and that's a problem. They are taking no responsibility for their dog's bad behaviour. It's rather like telling the woman she was raped because she walked past the rapist's house. They also said that the small dog their dog attacked last week attacked their dog. Again, zero responsibility for their dog. I will tell them this and restate that this is a potentially very dangerous dog. This is a park that takes pride in providing a safe clean camping environment. They have about a zero tolerance for bad behaviour. As I write this, I wonder how they would have dealt with the situation if it had been the man who had come out and assaulted my husband. My guess is he'd be gone. People have warned others not to go near that site, before our dog was attacked. People have noticed that the pit is at least big/strong and potentially able to get out of the leash on a walk. When I told people about our attack, a couple knew which dog had done it. I will express some disappointment in how this has been handled. Clearly dog and hubby were not safe on Saturday. We don't feel safe now. That dog needs to at least have a muzzle and a better leash/ collar when out on a walk. I'm glad we're leaving today and that we'll have a break to regroup. I'm sad that our last few days on our seventh winter here have been like this.
I better get moving now....
I'll have to stop into the office when we check out. I've decided to say something about how the park handled the situation with the aggressive dog. The dog for point of reference is a handsome, muscular, large pit bull. I'd put him around 100 pounds. Our girl is a small golden, about 55 pounds. The couple who have the pit said the park told them Hubby was to blame because he trespassed on their property. (as if they own the site
) I don't believe that's what the guy from the park said. Still, that's what they heard, and that's a problem. They are taking no responsibility for their dog's bad behaviour. It's rather like telling the woman she was raped because she walked past the rapist's house. They also said that the small dog their dog attacked last week attacked their dog. Again, zero responsibility for their dog. I will tell them this and restate that this is a potentially very dangerous dog. This is a park that takes pride in providing a safe clean camping environment. They have about a zero tolerance for bad behaviour. As I write this, I wonder how they would have dealt with the situation if it had been the man who had come out and assaulted my husband. My guess is he'd be gone. People have warned others not to go near that site, before our dog was attacked. People have noticed that the pit is at least big/strong and potentially able to get out of the leash on a walk. When I told people about our attack, a couple knew which dog had done it. I will express some disappointment in how this has been handled. Clearly dog and hubby were not safe on Saturday. We don't feel safe now. That dog needs to at least have a muzzle and a better leash/ collar when out on a walk. I'm glad we're leaving today and that we'll have a break to regroup. I'm sad that our last few days on our seventh winter here have been like this.I better get moving now....
It may be considered a rental and renters have rights to the area they are renting.
I'd be more apt to sue the park owners for allowing this to possibly continue but that would put a stop to northwinds option to stay there possibly.
Mendalla
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I mentioned lawyering up yesterday. I'd certainly be tempted to find another park and sue both the dog owner and the park. I doubt the dog owner's argument would last long before a judge. We don't allow assault, even on a trespasser.
But I don't think a tenant can claim trespassing if the person is walking past their space using a common throughway. E.g. if I am standing in the hall of the apartment building outside their door talking to someone, they can complain about the noise but that's certainly not trespassing. Trespassing would only apply if I entered their apartment. And even that has limits. The landlord or their representatives can enter with notice given.
True....it's amazing they never checked how the dog was or apologized. And offer to pay vets fees.
Northwind
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I agree. I was disappointed that they did what they did, even with some measures. Clearly the dog owners didn't take responsibility.
Northwind
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It isn't actually a common through way. It just looks like it is. That needs to be factored in.
There is a general manners thing that you don't go through other people's site. I don't think it's actually any kind of rule or law or whatever that you can use to fight. It is also good manners to make sure your dog is well behaved. This park says aggressive dogs are not allowed, yet they are allowing this.
Northwind
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When I went to the office this morning I mentioned what the couple said yesterday. The woman there didn't really know what was happening and seemed to trivialize the situation. She said she understood it was just an accident. I said no, it was an aggressive dog that needs a muzzle. We're away from there now. The couple have restrictions that they have to follow. Apparently the security guy was busy last night with "druggies". I suspect this couple may have been part of that.
Mendalla
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Um, what? "Druggies" sounds almost, not quite but almost, worse than aggressive dogs. Hope that lot is out of there by the time you return, if you do. They seem like bad news.