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I'm getting behind on my reading and posting. The schedule I am following should have had the reading from Mark should have been posted yesterday along with Matthew 22. I got interrupted and didn't get back to it. I have a busy day scheduled for today and tomorrow so it may be Sunday afternoon before I get to today's work. Anyway here are my thoughts on Mark 12.
Mark 12 begins with a parable we have already read in Matthew 21 only a few days ago. Since Matthew was written some time after Mark and the two accounts are very similar I think that we can assume that Matthew used Mark as a source and expanded on it. Mark gives the bare bones of the parable.
The questions arising from this parable are the main characters represent. In my opinion, the owner of the vineyard is God; the people he put in charge of the vineyard are the religious leaders in the temple; and the 'stone the builders rejected'that became the cornerstone of the outcasts of society - the unclean, poor, lepers, Gentiles.
Mark continues on with church leaders continue trying to trick to trick him with with questions and riddles. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar? Yes it is. We have already read Matthew's version of this parable which is almost identical. As is Jesus answer to question the greatest commandment, and the question about Jesus being the son of David.
Mark's Jesus warning his followers to watch out for the self-righteous leaders make a show of their leadership position and knowledge about religion. Jesus poured two small ponds as are all. This concludes this chapter.
Today's reading should be Matthew 23 and Luke 20 and 21. I will get to them soon.
Mark 12 begins with a parable we have already read in Matthew 21 only a few days ago. Since Matthew was written some time after Mark and the two accounts are very similar I think that we can assume that Matthew used Mark as a source and expanded on it. Mark gives the bare bones of the parable.
The questions arising from this parable are the main characters represent. In my opinion, the owner of the vineyard is God; the people he put in charge of the vineyard are the religious leaders in the temple; and the 'stone the builders rejected'that became the cornerstone of the outcasts of society - the unclean, poor, lepers, Gentiles.
Mark continues on with church leaders continue trying to trick to trick him with with questions and riddles. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar? Yes it is. We have already read Matthew's version of this parable which is almost identical. As is Jesus answer to question the greatest commandment, and the question about Jesus being the son of David.
Mark's Jesus warning his followers to watch out for the self-righteous leaders make a show of their leadership position and knowledge about religion. Jesus poured two small ponds as are all. This concludes this chapter.
Today's reading should be Matthew 23 and Luke 20 and 21. I will get to them soon.
Tribute is always required by god-like attributes ... whether human or not!
Some inhumane forms incarnate as well just to expose us to alternate extremes in ... essence? Tis nebulous ... and rest assured this too will pass! All gods blow fortunes quickly and only Bottom's end ... remains as ontological ... so it is as is ...
Nefarious? Perhaps ... but some following has developed ...
Some inhumane forms incarnate as well just to expose us to alternate extremes in ... essence? Tis nebulous ... and rest assured this too will pass! All gods blow fortunes quickly and only Bottom's end ... remains as ontological ... so it is as is ...
Nefarious? Perhaps ... but some following has developed ...
unsafe
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This parable of the tenant or vineyard is in Mark 12 is also in Matthew and Luke -----
unsafe says--- This is my take on the Parable of the Tenant or Vineyard in mark 12 ----
If we look up the Greek word for vineyard ----we find that it means the spiritual life of Israel ---
unsafe says -----So the vineyard is the people of God -----
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290 ampelṓn – properly, a vineyard; (figuratively) the religious, spiritual life of OT Israel – and by extension the body of Christ, consummating (not replacing) believing Israel as the one, covenant people of God (Mk 12:9; Lk 20:16).
unsafe says ------So the owner of God's people (Vineyard ) is God ----this is the Greek word used in this scripture for owner ----
--2962 kýrios – properly, a person exercising absolute ownership rights; lord (Lord).
unsafe says ---the fruit of the vineyard is ---Faithfulness -----we are to be faithful to God ----
The Servants are -----the Prophets of God sent to call His people to obedience -----
The Tenants are ---The Religious Leaders --the Pharisees -----
The Son ---Is Jesus
The Stone is ----Jesus -----
The Builders are----- The religious leaders who rejected the stone --see verse below
2 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes
So we see the stone was rejected by the builders ---but God will vindicate the Stone and raise Him up to be the Cornerstone of the Church ---
unsafe says--- This is my take on the Parable of the Tenant or Vineyard in mark 12 ----
If we look up the Greek word for vineyard ----we find that it means the spiritual life of Israel ---
unsafe says -----So the vineyard is the people of God -----
HELPS Word-studies
290 ampelṓn – properly, a vineyard; (figuratively) the religious, spiritual life of OT Israel – and by extension the body of Christ, consummating (not replacing) believing Israel as the one, covenant people of God (Mk 12:9; Lk 20:16).
unsafe says ------So the owner of God's people (Vineyard ) is God ----this is the Greek word used in this scripture for owner ----
--2962 kýrios – properly, a person exercising absolute ownership rights; lord (Lord).
unsafe says ---the fruit of the vineyard is ---Faithfulness -----we are to be faithful to God ----
The Servants are -----the Prophets of God sent to call His people to obedience -----
The Tenants are ---The Religious Leaders --the Pharisees -----
The Son ---Is Jesus
The Stone is ----Jesus -----
The Builders are----- The religious leaders who rejected the stone --see verse below
2 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:
“‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes
So we see the stone was rejected by the builders ---but God will vindicate the Stone and raise Him up to be the Cornerstone of the Church ---
If gods people are imagined ... would God be an abstract center? The spot we pass through to teach us a lesson about destructive powers? Then there is the surrounding observers ... 3 rd person perspective that's objective ringer!
De Bell Tolls ... contestants role ...
De Bell Tolls ... contestants role ...
unsafe
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Seeler ----your quote -------- Since Matthew was written some time after Mark and the two accounts are very similar I think that we can assume that Matthew used Mark as a source and expanded on it.
unsafe says -----Sorry Seeler for this disruption --I apologize but I feel I have to address this ------- Are you assuming that the Gospels were written by man and not inspired by God with your Statement above ?
unsafe says ------Well I personally don't worry about who wrote the first Gospel Matthew or Mark ---I am concerned when I see comments like ---we can assume that Matthew used Marks word as a source and just expanded on it ------This to me is saying that these men just copied one another and God wasn't involved in the process of inspiring the words these people wrote down -----
unsafe says and posted scripture ----The Bible says this -----
2 Timothy 3:16 (EXB)
16 All Scripture is ·inspired by God [breathed out by God; L God-breathed]and is useful for teaching, for ·showing people what is wrong in their lives [refuting error; rebuking], for correcting faults, and for ·teaching how to live right [training in righteousness].
2 Peter 1:20-21 (EXB)
20 ·Most [First] of all, you must understand this: No prophecy in the Scriptures ·ever comes from the prophet’s own interpretation [or is a matter of one’s own interpretation]. 21 No prophecy ever came from ·what a person wanted to say [L human will/intention], but people ·led [carried; moved] by the Holy Spirit spoke words from God. [C True prophecy originates with God, not with the prophet.]
unsafe says -----Now from what I found there is something called the Q Gospel ---read all at link provided
Question: "What is the Q gospel? Is there any evidence for the gospel of Q?"
What is the Q gospel? Is there any evidence for the gospel of Q?
Answer: The gospel of “Q” gets its title from the German word quelle which means “source.” The whole idea of a Q gospel is based on the concept that the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) are so similar that they must have copied from each other and/or another source. This other source has been given the name "Q." The predominant argument for the existence of a Q gospel is essentially this: (1) The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written after A.D. 70 and therefore could not have been written by the Apostle Matthew, John Mark, or Luke the doctor. (2) Since the authors of the Gospels were not firsthand witnesses, they must have used other sources. (3) Since Mark is the shortest Gospel and has the least original material, Mark was written first and Matthew and Luke used Mark as a source. (4) Since there are many similarities in Matthew and Luke which do not occur in Mark, Matthew and Luke must have had another source. (5) This source, Q, was likely a collection of sayings of Jesus, similar to the gospel to Thomas.
When considering the possibility of a Q gospel, it is important to remember that no evidence whatsoever has ever been found for the existence of a Q gospel. Not even a single manuscript fragment of Q has ever been found. None of the early church fathers mentioned anything that could have been the Q gospel. Second, there is strong evidence that the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written between A.D. 50 and 65, not after A.D. 70. Many of the early church fathers attributed the Gospels to the Apostle Matthew, John Mark, and Luke the doctor. Third, since the Gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, and Luke, they were written by actual eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or close companions of eyewitnesses of Jesus. Therefore, it is natural that we should expect many similarities. If the Gospels record actual words spoken by Jesus, we should expect the eyewitnesses to report Jesus saying the same things.
The vast majority of those who promote the Q gospel concept do not believe the Bible is inspired (God-breathed). The vast majority of proponents of Q do not believe that the Gospels were written by the Apostles and their close associates, or that the Gospels were written within the generation of the Apostles. They do not believe it is possible that two or three authors could use the exact same words without using each others' writings as sources. Crucially, most Q advocates reject the inspiration of the Holy Spirit helping the Gospel writers to accurately record the words and works of Jesus Christ. Again, the use of a "Q" source is not the problem. The problem is the reason why most Q gospel advocates believe a "Q" was used, namely a denial of the inspiration of Scripture (Matthew 5:18; 24:35; John 10:35; 16:12,13; 17:17; 1 Corinthians 2:13; 2 Timothy 3:15–17; Hebrews 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20,21).
unsafe says -----Sorry Seeler for this disruption --I apologize but I feel I have to address this ------- Are you assuming that the Gospels were written by man and not inspired by God with your Statement above ?
unsafe says ------Well I personally don't worry about who wrote the first Gospel Matthew or Mark ---I am concerned when I see comments like ---we can assume that Matthew used Marks word as a source and just expanded on it ------This to me is saying that these men just copied one another and God wasn't involved in the process of inspiring the words these people wrote down -----
unsafe says and posted scripture ----The Bible says this -----
2 Timothy 3:16 (EXB)
16 All Scripture is ·inspired by God [breathed out by God; L God-breathed]and is useful for teaching, for ·showing people what is wrong in their lives [refuting error; rebuking], for correcting faults, and for ·teaching how to live right [training in righteousness].
2 Peter 1:20-21 (EXB)
20 ·Most [First] of all, you must understand this: No prophecy in the Scriptures ·ever comes from the prophet’s own interpretation [or is a matter of one’s own interpretation]. 21 No prophecy ever came from ·what a person wanted to say [L human will/intention], but people ·led [carried; moved] by the Holy Spirit spoke words from God. [C True prophecy originates with God, not with the prophet.]
unsafe says -----Now from what I found there is something called the Q Gospel ---read all at link provided
Question: "What is the Q gospel? Is there any evidence for the gospel of Q?"
What is the Q gospel? Is there any evidence for the gospel of Q?
Answer: The gospel of “Q” gets its title from the German word quelle which means “source.” The whole idea of a Q gospel is based on the concept that the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, and Luke) are so similar that they must have copied from each other and/or another source. This other source has been given the name "Q." The predominant argument for the existence of a Q gospel is essentially this: (1) The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written after A.D. 70 and therefore could not have been written by the Apostle Matthew, John Mark, or Luke the doctor. (2) Since the authors of the Gospels were not firsthand witnesses, they must have used other sources. (3) Since Mark is the shortest Gospel and has the least original material, Mark was written first and Matthew and Luke used Mark as a source. (4) Since there are many similarities in Matthew and Luke which do not occur in Mark, Matthew and Luke must have had another source. (5) This source, Q, was likely a collection of sayings of Jesus, similar to the gospel to Thomas.
When considering the possibility of a Q gospel, it is important to remember that no evidence whatsoever has ever been found for the existence of a Q gospel. Not even a single manuscript fragment of Q has ever been found. None of the early church fathers mentioned anything that could have been the Q gospel. Second, there is strong evidence that the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke were written between A.D. 50 and 65, not after A.D. 70. Many of the early church fathers attributed the Gospels to the Apostle Matthew, John Mark, and Luke the doctor. Third, since the Gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, and Luke, they were written by actual eyewitnesses of Jesus and/or close companions of eyewitnesses of Jesus. Therefore, it is natural that we should expect many similarities. If the Gospels record actual words spoken by Jesus, we should expect the eyewitnesses to report Jesus saying the same things.
The vast majority of those who promote the Q gospel concept do not believe the Bible is inspired (God-breathed). The vast majority of proponents of Q do not believe that the Gospels were written by the Apostles and their close associates, or that the Gospels were written within the generation of the Apostles. They do not believe it is possible that two or three authors could use the exact same words without using each others' writings as sources. Crucially, most Q advocates reject the inspiration of the Holy Spirit helping the Gospel writers to accurately record the words and works of Jesus Christ. Again, the use of a "Q" source is not the problem. The problem is the reason why most Q gospel advocates believe a "Q" was used, namely a denial of the inspiration of Scripture (Matthew 5:18; 24:35; John 10:35; 16:12,13; 17:17; 1 Corinthians 2:13; 2 Timothy 3:15–17; Hebrews 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20,21).
God is nothing ... if not like a spontaneous source fired bt blind passions ... mankind is given an oversupply and thus must be isolated to allow some shedding ... sometimes known as sacrifice ... how life goes!
Life is sometimes viewed as ess Q'd complex by those despising dark complexities ... thus simply blind to adepts! Some call these aesthetics ... tics that but the flat out? Like antes in the Pan ...
Life is sometimes viewed as ess Q'd complex by those despising dark complexities ... thus simply blind to adepts! Some call these aesthetics ... tics that but the flat out? Like antes in the Pan ...
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Ah that inner persona ... some say one should know oneself deeply ... thus implicit searches!
There were some innate type Romans that didn't rely on hob nailed boots ... but some Levant extractions! So the word goes ... perhaps as Mithra ... a shining beam in the night not seen by all!
Seeler
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Matthew 23 cautions about those who make a show of their religion but failed to practices in their hearts. They love to be looked up to and respected. Jesus teaching that humility, not thinking of yourself is better than anyone else is important. Jesus then points out the many things that those leaders could be criticized for, such as placing heavy burdens on the poor and not offering them help. Jesus also emphasizes the importance of the law such as justice, mercy and trust are being ignored by the Pharisees while they put their emphasis on things like paying the tithes.
Matthew ends this chapter with Jesus lamenting over Jerusalem, andcomparing God's love as witnessed through him to that of a mother hen caring for her chicks. Matthew tells us that Jesus said this before the events\ the time that Matthew was writing was probably 20 years or so after the destruction of Jerusalem. Jesus prediction come through.
Matthew ends this chapter with Jesus lamenting over Jerusalem, andcomparing God's love as witnessed through him to that of a mother hen caring for her chicks. Matthew tells us that Jesus said this before the events\ the time that Matthew was writing was probably 20 years or so after the destruction of Jerusalem. Jesus prediction come through.
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Seeler
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Luke Chapters 20 and 21 are also listed for today's reading.
They give Luke's interpretation of events that have been covered in Matthew and Mark. Chapter 20 opens the parable of the absentee landlord and the tenants who seised the vineyard.
The religious leaders, unable to find a reason to have Jesus arrested, then try to trick him with a series of questions. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar? If a woman is widowed seven times from seven brothers whose wife will she be in heaven? Son of David?
Jesus speaks to the disciples privately, be on guard against scholars who like to parade around in long robes and who loved to be addressed properly in the marketplace and have the best seats at banquets. They are the ones who prey on widows and their families. Jesus points out the poor woman with her offering of two small coins.
Chapter 21 speeks of the coming destruction of the Temple.
Luke tells us that Jesus spoke about the coming times - times of suffering - and gives reassurance that their preseverance will secure their lives. Times will be especially hard when they have to flee from Jerusalem. The coming of the son of Adam is predicted. Jesus is the people to be on guard at all times. They pray constantly. This ends chapter 21.
They give Luke's interpretation of events that have been covered in Matthew and Mark. Chapter 20 opens the parable of the absentee landlord and the tenants who seised the vineyard.
The religious leaders, unable to find a reason to have Jesus arrested, then try to trick him with a series of questions. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar? If a woman is widowed seven times from seven brothers whose wife will she be in heaven? Son of David?
Jesus speaks to the disciples privately, be on guard against scholars who like to parade around in long robes and who loved to be addressed properly in the marketplace and have the best seats at banquets. They are the ones who prey on widows and their families. Jesus points out the poor woman with her offering of two small coins.
Chapter 21 speeks of the coming destruction of the Temple.
Luke tells us that Jesus spoke about the coming times - times of suffering - and gives reassurance that their preseverance will secure their lives. Times will be especially hard when they have to flee from Jerusalem. The coming of the son of Adam is predicted. Jesus is the people to be on guard at all times. They pray constantly. This ends chapter 21.
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Hmmm. Wonder what modern analogs we could find for these "scholars"?
Witches and hogs out of the hogwart ... approaching the trough?
Huffington wrote on that and distressed the industrialists ...
Seeler
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After yesterday’s reading of three chapters from two different Gospels, today’ reading seems short. Mark chapter 13 –
This is Mark’s version of the destruction of the Temple and the signs of events to happen at that time. Although he and the other gospel writers attribute these words to Jesus they a seems to have been a pivotal point for the Jewish religion, which is been centred around the Temple in Jerusalem. In putting down a long drawn out rebellion by the Jews the Roman rulers destroyed the temple and the city of Jerusalem. There was much suffering on the part of the people during this rebellion and immediately following – wars and rumours of wars, natiion turned against nation, famine and starvation.
With the Temple is the centre and focal point of their religion and the surviving Jews dispersed throughout the area, the religion broke into fractions. One of the fractions resulted in the separation of the followers of Jesus from the main body of the Jews. Until this time Jesus followers have been worshiping in the synagogues and small towns and villages, and attracting many gentile followers. Now they began to be disassociated from the other jews.
During this period of suffering and persecution it seems that Mark (and perhaps a few others whose work did not survive) begin gathering stories and information about Jesus together into one book - the gospel or good news according to Mark. What was the good news? They remember Jesus teachings that God loved them and the realm or Kingdom of God was near at hand. They should stay alert; the end times would come 'in this generation'. Perhaps Mark drew some of his images from the visions reported in the Hebrew book of Daniel.
The question is, did Jesus have foreknowledge about what was to happen in the future and predict these things during the final days before he was killed? The Gospel of Mark seems to reflect a low Christology. It depicts a very human Jesus. Near the end of this chapter Jesus denies knowing the exact hour or day when these events would happen – no one knows, not even the son; no one except the father.
This is Mark’s version of the destruction of the Temple and the signs of events to happen at that time. Although he and the other gospel writers attribute these words to Jesus they a seems to have been a pivotal point for the Jewish religion, which is been centred around the Temple in Jerusalem. In putting down a long drawn out rebellion by the Jews the Roman rulers destroyed the temple and the city of Jerusalem. There was much suffering on the part of the people during this rebellion and immediately following – wars and rumours of wars, natiion turned against nation, famine and starvation.
With the Temple is the centre and focal point of their religion and the surviving Jews dispersed throughout the area, the religion broke into fractions. One of the fractions resulted in the separation of the followers of Jesus from the main body of the Jews. Until this time Jesus followers have been worshiping in the synagogues and small towns and villages, and attracting many gentile followers. Now they began to be disassociated from the other jews.
During this period of suffering and persecution it seems that Mark (and perhaps a few others whose work did not survive) begin gathering stories and information about Jesus together into one book - the gospel or good news according to Mark. What was the good news? They remember Jesus teachings that God loved them and the realm or Kingdom of God was near at hand. They should stay alert; the end times would come 'in this generation'. Perhaps Mark drew some of his images from the visions reported in the Hebrew book of Daniel.
The question is, did Jesus have foreknowledge about what was to happen in the future and predict these things during the final days before he was killed? The Gospel of Mark seems to reflect a low Christology. It depicts a very human Jesus. Near the end of this chapter Jesus denies knowing the exact hour or day when these events would happen – no one knows, not even the son; no one except the father.
unsafe
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Luke 21 ----the Widow's Mite -----mentioned on post # 812 above ---Great lesson to learn here ---Trust God
Luke 21 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
A Widow’s Contribution
21 Looking up, Jesus saw people, especially the rich, dropping their gifts into the temple offering box. 2 He noticed a poor widow drop in two small coins. 3 He said, “I can guarantee this truth: This poor widow has given more than all the others. 4 All of these people have given what they could spare. But she, in her poverty, has given everything she had to live on.”
Luke 21 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
A Widow’s Contribution
21 Looking up, Jesus saw people, especially the rich, dropping their gifts into the temple offering box. 2 He noticed a poor widow drop in two small coins. 3 He said, “I can guarantee this truth: This poor widow has given more than all the others. 4 All of these people have given what they could spare. But she, in her poverty, has given everything she had to live on.”
Seeler
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Matthew 24 gives Matthew’s view the destruction of the Temple and the difficulties of that time. It is almost word for word a repetition of Mark’s report. This tells me that Matthew most likely had a copy of Mark in front of him. Two individuals reporting about the same event would not have used the exact same words and sentences. There would be differences in what each saw and emphasis put on it.
Only in the latter part of the chapter does Matthew begin to insert some of his own material, and material common to Luke and therefore most likely to have been from the Q source.
The chapter ends with the parable of the shrewd slave to whom the master assigns responsibility. This parable is taken from Q and told in Luke.
Only in the latter part of the chapter does Matthew begin to insert some of his own material, and material common to Luke and therefore most likely to have been from the Q source.
The chapter ends with the parable of the shrewd slave to whom the master assigns responsibility. This parable is taken from Q and told in Luke.
Take a clue from Q ... as Phi ... and see a fine mind (temple) destroyed by pure passions ... and the blowing all intellectual matter as the Romans burned old myths! Traces may be seen in the Great Tome on Mithra ...
Alas this too is poorly understood ... should we call it stuck or shafted in time ...
Alas this too is poorly understood ... should we call it stuck or shafted in time ...
unsafe
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Seeler ---your quote ----- Matthew 24 gives Matthew’s view the destruction of the Temple and the difficulties of that time. It is almost word for word a repetition of Mark’s report. This tells me that Matthew most likely had a copy of Mark in front of him. Two individuals reporting about the same event would not have used the exact same words and sentences. There would be differences in what each saw and emphasis put on it.
unsafe says -----No where in the Bible will anyone find a scripture that says ----Matthew --Mark or Luke --copied one another ----the scripture is very clear on who gave the words to these people ------
2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Peter 1:20-21
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
unsafe said and posted -----This should be our goal ----
unsafe says -----No where in the Bible will anyone find a scripture that says ----Matthew --Mark or Luke --copied one another ----the scripture is very clear on who gave the words to these people ------
2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Peter 1:20-21
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
unsafe said and posted -----This should be our goal ----
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The only problem with this, unsafe, is that Timothy is a letter, possibly from Paul, although some modern scholars date it much later (as late as mid-second century) "in the style of Paul" which was later compiled, by later Christians, into the canon as we know the "New Testament" today. So the scripture to which "Paul" refers is the Hebrew scriptures. These scriptures still belong to the people they were given to, the Jews, and they don't understand them as "divinely written" at all. They believe David to have written most of the Psalms, individual prophets or groups the Prophets, and Moses via dictation from God, the Torah, for instance. And let me tell you, when Jews do "instruction" on their sacred scriptures, they aren't listening to someone tell them the "right way to understand". They are wrestling collectively, with much discussion and argument, and reference to other texts, other learnings, with how G_d might be leading them to Tikkun Olam, "Wholeness/Perfect Justice" through this text.