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Seeler ----your quote ------ I appreciate comments, questions and discussion, it sometimes seems as though someone is trying to hijack this thread for her own purposes.

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I am so sorry if you think she --(whoever that might be) is trying to hijack this thread for her own purpose ------If it is me you are talking about Seeler -----I apologize ---not trying to hijack any thread ---just giving my view and answering people who post my comments and have questions or disagree with what I say answering to the best of my ability to respond to what they have posted ----- The last couple of pages here I am responding to BetteTheRed's comments to me -----

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If you go back to page 34 --Post 663 you will find this comment that you posted to me ----- Rather than criticizing my writing, I invite you to try giving your interpretation concisely, in your own words without relying on commentary from others. In other words how does a particular passage speak to you?

So I was given permission by you to post my interpretation in my own words ----which I am doing -----so I am obeying your plea to use my own words -----When I respond to this posts addressed to me --is that hijacking ??????? -----

-lets see the definition of hijack
  1. to steal after forcing it to stop:
  2. to rob after forcing it to stop
  3. to seize by force or threat of force.

I personal don't think the word hijack here applies to anyone posting on this thread ------like I said I was given the OK by you to post my interpretation ----it is not my fault if others post their disagreement with what I have posted ------I am just responding to their post to me ----

unsafe ASKS -------do you want me to stop posting my Spiritual interpretation to your posts ??-----are others to stop posting as well so you have this Thread all to your self ----- I await for your reply --:)
 
High Jack ... an action of Gods that don't like peace ... nothing to be made there? Thus if some absence ... the heart is inflated to bust point ... Fu Gassy ... perhaps even an "-ite" as his represents alloying ... an altering as we learn what is unknown!

Goes both ways in my scions ... if you watch the powerful goings on ... as people attempt to rise to far ... booty swells to a bust point!

Simulated bubbles in the whine or activity in quantum spatial essence ... virtual abstracts as frothy ... fermenting or even fulminating ... if the child of love wasn't desired ... after that fallacy ... is logical! Albeit poorly understood ... supporting emotional irrationality ...

It can be seen from out there ... objective perspectives? Lo' not well received by a faction ... yet still source of humor ... and bones of the myth ... as' tory?

Close to the sacrial regions ...
 
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unsafe ASKS -------do you want me to stop posting my Spiritual interpretation to your posts ??-----are others to stop posting as well so you have this Thread all to your self ----- I await for your reply --:)
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I, for one, *totally* want you posting your spiritual interpretations.
 
While I await a response from Seeler--- her last Post was about Luke 19 ----This Chapter offers much in the Spiritual meaning -----just posting 1-10 --Zacchacus conversion


We have the tax collector Zacchacus ---this man was older ---he was a tax collector and because rich by unrighteous mammon ---he ripped people off ----none the less he was rich ---he was so taken with Jesus that he climbed a tree to see Him -----Jesus sees the man in the tree and opens His Heart to receive him and calls him down from the tree -----God is always open to receive us when we seek Him -----Zacchacus proved publicly that he was converted --he showed his sincerity of his faith and repentance by diligently seeking Jesus -----


I am posting verses 7-10 below ---- we see here that Jesus saved a rich sinner -----so money did not stop his being saved -----Jesus knew his heart was in the right place and he repented by giving back more than he cheated people ----Jesus came to seek and save the lost no matter who they are or what they have done or what they have ------When we see our mistakes and repent we open the door for Jesus to come in ------- Notice the followers of Jesus ---they muttered and were shocked that he would go to a sinners house -----

Luke 19
7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, "He has gone to be the guest of a sinner." 8 But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount." 9 Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost."

 
Here's an interesting observation. Jesus seemed to expect that tax collectors will have to change their ways to follow him, but I don't see him having the same expectations of the prostitutes he allegedly hung out with. Does that elevate the oldest profession over tax collecting, from a moral POV?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Here's an interesting observation. Jesus seemed to expect that tax collectors will have to change their ways to follow him, but I don't see him having the same expectations of the prostitutes he allegedly hung out with. Does that elevate the oldest profession over tax collecting, from a moral POV?
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This would tax the thinking and dispose of excess will ... emotional responses of polity?
 
Unsafe, I see that you were waiting for reply and I have been thinking about it. Perhaps you did not mean it that way but your post about Zaccheaus seemed to be a criticism of my post. Perhaps you did not realize that I deliberately did not dwell on the story but, after acknowledging it, I moved on. I said nothing about its spiritual value. I think my readers are capable of reading story themselves in discerning how it speaks to them.

You give your understanding and interpretation of the spiritual meaning of this story as though it were the only one. I see several different ways of interpreting the spiritual meaning.

Actually in many ways I would agree with you. But I also would disagree and others. You seem to think that Zacchaeus was ostracized by his neighbours because he cheated. Nowhere in the passage does it say he cheated; he does say IF he cheated. He was ostracized because he was a tax collector; he collaborated with the enemy – the Romans. He grew rich by working in this position. I see this story as an illustration of Jesus acceptance of the outsider, regardless of why he was an outsider. And I see a man changed by the fact that Jesus’ acceptance and inclusion of him illustrated God’s love.

Now it is time to move on. I have already used up my computer time for this morning. I will try to get back to today’s reading sometime before the day is over.
 
Creative accounting can be industrialized by the gods of business ... and thus dynamic shocks to the humble folks ... little people?

Thus as the reference to Anais ... we like in we tubes ... categories of desires to succeed and whack down the neighbour:
Thus the terror of non-biblical Good Rheids that creep the fixated ... Moses is said to be born in the rheids ... papa Roues ... when actually heh was a fire as chi ... flame on a stick ... tall, thin, red-haired Munn ... Erica? Bloody willies ...

Ultimate wisdom is very faceted as a gemstone ... like pearl in your ear ... just a dsss 'ng!

That'd be Ur ... not common in a domain devoted to free emotions ... only stray thoughts ...
 
Seeler ---your quote to me -----
Unsafe, I see that you were waiting for reply and I have been thinking about it. Perhaps you did not mean it that way but your post about Zaccheaus seemed to be a criticism of my post. Perhaps you did not realize that I deliberately did not dwell on the story but, after acknowledging it, I moved on. I said nothing about its spiritual value. I think my readers are capable of reading story themselves in discerning how it speaks to them.

Seeler ----thanks for your reply ------No where do I criticize what you wrote in your post ---this is my opening statement -----While I await a response from Seeler--- her last Post was about Luke 19 ----This Chapter offers much in the Spiritual meaning -----just posting 1-10 --Zacchacus conversion

I am giving my view on the Spiritual side of the first part of the Chapter is all ----I appreciate your giving your interpretation of what this passage is saying to you -----as I said I feel the Spiritual meaning is the whole point behind scripture and is very important to bring out so we get both sides of what is being said -----

Now---- you have made a claim that I was criticizing your post ----so now I ask you to show me the statement that I made on post #785 above that makes you feel that way so I can clear it up ------Thanks

unsafe says ------Bette The Red brings out an important spiritual issue in her post above about the first part of Luke 19 the tax collector -----that should be answered ---Which shows ---By giving the Spiritual meaning Questions arise and conversation is sparked -----

BetteTheRed's Quote ------ Here's an interesting observation. Jesus seemed to expect that tax collectors will have to change their ways to follow him, but I don't see him having the same expectations of the prostitutes he allegedly hung out with. Does that elevate the oldest profession over tax collecting, from a moral POV?
 
The Light taxes dark minds .. ye who enter here carry a torch! Could attract fissures ... adding to the fractures ...

Holes in the pool a' swhirls ... and dances ...
 
BetteTheRed said:
Here's an interesting observation. Jesus seemed to expect that tax collectors will have to change their ways to follow him, but I don't see him having the same expectations of the prostitutes he allegedly hung out with. Does that elevate the oldest profession over tax collecting, from a moral POV?
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Prostitutes are certainly more fun. :D I mean, who'd you rather have show up at your door, the local escort agency or CRA?
 
Mark 11 begins with the story of the palm parade. The story is included in all four Gospels but most likely appeared first in Mark. It is familiar to most as the introduction to our holy week observances.
This followed by the story of Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple.
After cursing the fig tree, Jesus goes to teach that with faith we can move mountains.
This chapter concludes with the temple authorities questioning Jesus authority.


Also included in today’s reading is John 12. There is a lot in this chapter, much of which has been covered in the earlier Gospels but in a different setting and with details added by John.

It begins with a woman anointed Jesus but in this case we are told that it was Mary and it took place at the home that she shared with her brother Lazarus and her sister Martha. Jesus was a guest in their home. Mary anointed Jesus feet and wiped them with her hair. John is the only gospel that has Judas criticizing her action. It is also the only gospel that names Judas as a thief or knows what is in Judas’s mind. Here to we have the familiar saying ‘the poor you have with you always’ usually quoted out of context.

Next we have the crowds gathering around not only to see Jesus but to see Lazarus whom Jesus had raised from the dead. This is followed palm parade when Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem. Quoting Scripture crowds celebrated Jesus as King of Israel and they spread the story of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead. Quite naturally the Pharisees felt threatened by Jesus’ popularity.

Next we have some Greeks approach Philip and ask if they can meet with Jesus Philip speaks to Andrew and together they go to Jesus with their work Greeks request. We hear nothing more about this Greeks; I don’t know whether Jesus agreed to meet with them or not. Jesus speaks of a grain of wheat falling to the earth and dying to bring forth a head of grain. There are many parables and sayings of Jesus that involve seeds, but this one seems most closely related to first Corinthians 15:36 – 37 where Paul writes ‘what you so does not produce life unless it dies … ‘

John reports Jesus prayed that God’s name might be glorified, and a voice spoke from the sky I have glorified it and I will glorified it further.

Jesus goes on and speaks to the crowd about light and darkness.

Although Jesus had performed many miracles, they did not believe. Some considered that this was the fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah.

Chapter 12 concludes with Jesus continuing to speak about darkness and light and claim that he is saying exactly what the father told him to say. The other Gospels Jesus making this claim.
 
Seeler said:
That last sentencee should reeaad: None of the other gospels has Jesus making this claim.
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Palms down there ... like some power casting a shadow and in there a sacred light? Could be a conspired item and thus rejected by opposing tyrants ... Caesar said join them and corrupt the process ... a romantic fuddle ... like El Mere! Passions can cause loss of the alternate essence ...

Never-never Land is not one way ...
 
Matthew 22 begins with a parable of the wedding feast. Matthew’s version is different from Luke which we read earlier. The writers of the gospel of Matthew seem to have altered it to suit the purposes of this gospel. If I’m remembering my history properly, the city of Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed by the Romans when they defeated a Jewish uprising in approximately 70 A.D. In subsequent years, without the Temple to unify them, the Jews broke into several different groups. One of these was 'the followers of the way of Jesus', who eventually becomes to be called Christians. With the division between 'the followers of the way' and the other Jewish groups, there was some bitterness. The Gospel of Matthew was written during this time and reflects these bitter feelings towards the Jews – the roots of anti-sematic feeling that has caused so much suffering over the centuries.

The basic parable goes something like this: rich man plans a wedding banquet for his son. The last minute the invited guests all have excuses for not attending. The rich man orders his slaves to go out into the highways and byways and round up some people to attend. The rich man then comes to inspect the guests and finds one, surprisingly, not dressed for a wedding. He orders this man to be thrown out. Reading between the lines, people have interpreted this parable as the rich man’s representing God, his son being Jesus. The invited guests are the Jews, but they make excuses and according to Matthew’s version even kill some of the slaves that had come to summon them. (Killing Jesus). Those gathered up to take their place are the Gentiles.
The one rejected, because he was not properly clothed, was a Gentile who was not able to make the commitment to follow the Way.

Matthew is not my favourite gospel nor is this the way I understand the basic parable. My understanding would be more in the line of the interpretation given by Luke.


Jesus’ reply to the question of paying taxes. Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and onto God what belongs to God.

The question about a woman who had been widowed seven times, from seven brothers. In the resurrection whose wife what she be? Jesus answered that there was no marriage in heaven, but that all would be like angels. I knew a woman who was widowed twice, and her third husband was not well. She admitted that she did not know for certain what heaven would be like, but she trusted that she would know all three in heaven and that it would be ‘all right’.

The next question was about the most important commandment. Jesus affirms that this is about love – love of God, neighbour, and self. This is followed by a question about son of God or son of David, referring back to a psalm.

Thus ends chaptter 22.
 
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unsafe says -------Sorry Seeler for this disruption on your thread just want to answer The Question Bette the Red brought up ------


BetteThe Red ------you bring up an important question in your post above -----

unsafe says and posted scripture -------this is what was found to a least address your question ---

Matthew 21:28-32 (ERV)
Jesus Uses a Story About Two Sons
28 “Tell me what you think about this: There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first son and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “The son answered, ‘I will not go.’ But later he decided he should go, and he went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’ He answered, ‘Yes, sir, I will go and work.’ But he did not go.

31 “Which of the two sons obeyed his father?”

The Jewish leaders answered, “The first son.”

Jesus said to them, “The truth is, you are worse than the tax collectors and the prostitutes. In fact, they will enter God’s kingdom before you enter. 32 John came showing you the right way to live, and you did not believe him. But the tax collectors and prostitutes believed John. You saw that happening, but you would not change. You still refused to believe him.


unsafe says ---So Jesus is speaking here of John the Baptise ----if you do some research you will see that John the Baptist cleansed tax collectors and Prostitutes alike as many came to listen to him and believed -----


unsafe posted scripture ----

Joshua 6:15-19 (GW)
15 On the seventh day they got up at dawn. They marched around the city seven times the same way they had done it before. That was the only day they marched around it seven times. 16 When they went around the seventh time, the priests blew their rams’ horns.

Joshua said to the troops, “Shout, because the Lord has given you the city! 17 The city has been claimed by the Lord. Everything in it belongs to the Lord. Only the prostitute Rahab and all who are in the house with her will live because she hid the messengers we sent. 18 But stay away from what has been claimed by the Lord for destruction, or you, too, will be destroyed by the Lord. If you take anything that is claimed by the Lord, you will bring destruction and disaster on the camp of Israel. 19 All the silver and gold and everything made of bronze and iron are holy and belong to the Lord. They must go into the Lord’s treasury.”

unsafe posting ----you can read all here on this --
Prostitutes Go in Before Priests

Prostitutes Go in Before Priests
 
Was Psyche a bitch before the priests laid out essence of law to fix all thinking?

Can a mortal make a sense of essence?

Essence:
the intrinsic nature or indispensable quality of something, especially something abstract, that determines its character.
"conflict is the essence of drama"
synonyms: quintessence, soul, spirit, nature

Is essence a stink-Eire in the temple, creating rahabian conflict at the dividing line? Thus separation of black from white in the two sons ... one moiling in the abstract ... sublime and buried!
 
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