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My niece in Germany is just recovering from Covid. The whole family has it. She, in her 30 ties, and her husband were both vaccinated. The two kids are under 5.
That they got it despite vaccination convinced her brother to get vaccinated.
 
AB is back to cancelling more medical procedures. Fully vaccinated hospitalizations were above 20% a few days ago. ICUs is still mostly not fully vaccinated people.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
My niece in Germany is just recovering from Covid. The whole family has it. She, in her 30 ties, and her husband were both vaccinated. The two kids are under 5.
That they got it despite vaccination convinced her brother to get vaccinated.
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Heard that they are ok. Still feeling weak but recovering. Kids felt better sooner, so tired parents have to entertain quarantining toddlers.
 
ChemGal said:
AB is back to cancelling more medical procedures. Fully vaccinated hospitalizations were above 20% a few days ago. ICUs is still mostly not fully vaccinated people.
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ICUs are mostly unvaccinated people by a large margin. Partially vaccinated people are the next group but much smaller.

Grande Prairie QEII hospital is diverting people. The conspiracy theories are coming home to roost. :( QEII diverts patients The numbers in GP are rising quickly
 
Northwind said:
ICUs are mostly unvaccinated people by a large margin. Partially vaccinated people are the next group but much smaller.

Grande Prairie QEII hospital is diverting people. The conspiracy theories are coming home to roost. :( QEII diverts patients The numbers in GP are rising quickly
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Yeah, rare for vaccinated person to he in the ICU. There was something on breakthrough cases though and they said it was rare when fully vaccinated. I think for symptomatic cases we're well past thst and hospitalizations likely aren't meeting a rare definition either.

I wonder what will happen with vaccines, move towards 3rd doses of the same things or something new based on the variants. With mRNA vaccines making changes is trivial although getting approval isn't.
 
When will we ever learn?

Not in the near future given our tendency to avoid intelligence and the associated responsibility! Said to be something learned from dead people ... those in stasis! However you can treat worms ... they like thoughts wiggle their way along ... generating holes in the emotional organs ... wholly expressions?

Is it a hairy condition to know the entire bit? Thus that fuzzy crown ... it folds under ... subtlety! Underground device ...
 
Is frustration like chaos ... thus the disturbing sense that we should've known our self ... as the old adage goes ... know thyself ... its a lead in to getting right into it! Some say it happens in a whiz ...

Word devices are alien things ... peculiar constructs to hide the virtue from realists! Thus we have relaxation therapy to stand back and observe the far side consequence! The propriety of the alternate or other's el ve ... this word too can be alloyed or conjugated into a fresh understanding ... an "-ite" thing in the abstract light ... indication of incompletion? Something is always missing ... the implication being things not spoken of ... intangible intercourse when found within psyche? There all is silent ... patient ...
 
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I was in the grocery store yesterday (yeah, I know, breaking my own rules about trying to shop only on days that I work...), and it was ridiculously busy. No-one was counting customers, and I know that there were more than 86 (our current max) in the store.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I was in the grocery store yesterday (yeah, I know, breaking my own rules about trying to shop only on days that I work...), and it was ridiculously busy. No-one was counting customers, and I know that there were more than 86 (our current max) in the store.
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Chemguy mentioned going to Costco soon. I'm like really? With back to school and counts what they are seems like a bad idea.
 
*thx to mods for the sudden woosh to the correct thread*

Yeah, I wasn't happy to be there yesterday. I have a welcome back bbq to plan after an anticipated outdoor service on September 19th. I don't know what rules we're going to be following and how, but I think I'm going to need a boatload of helpers to serve instead of the usual self service.
 
Situation here is now a complete clusterfuck IMO.
Seriously paying the holdouts $100 to get vaccinated. Masking and limited hours for alcohol purchases in restaurants bars - but that's it for restrictions while more surgeries get cancelled.
 
I saw only one un-masked human in my store today (well, I saw two, but the first one, a guy, rushed over to lane 7 to get a free mask). There's something about attractive women in their 30s that seems to configure into "anti-masking". Maybe they think no-one will love them sufficiently if they can't see ALL of their pretty face...

She didn't come through my cash, fortunately. I had one yesterday, and in an important, to me, coincidence, I was helping the previous customer pack, and didn't notice her standing there, unmasked. It's my personal policy that if I've made them wait, I feel obligated to serve them. If I'd seen her approach, I would have asked her to use another till. As it was, I found myself being uncharacteristically rude-ish to her. (Not really rude, and I didn't say anything, but I kept backed well away from her and sort of pitched her groceries right to the end of the belt.)
 
Can we charge the anti-maskers with assault for breathing on us?
The people who just can't wear a mask tend not to breathe down my neck.
 
ChemGal said:
Can we charge the anti-maskers with assault for breathing on us?
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Maybe. It's health and safety regulations that allow me, as a unionized worker (I don't know how well this would stand up in a non-union environment) to refuse to serve the un-masked, as long as public health masking regulations are in effect.

And presumably, it would only be deemed assault should you acquire COVID-19 within 14 days of such an assault.

It's the one thing (aside from bottled water, about which I have my lips firmly zipped, and for which I have the 11-digit bar code memorized, *sigh*) that makes my shifts a lot less pleasant. I do NOT like confrontations; I like to provide a positive customer service experience. I actually have the most fun when I can nudge a grumpy-ish customer into some sort of jolly-ish mutual agreement. (The guy today who was slamming his groceries onto the belt in a very angry-feeling fashion who warmed up talking about his fishing trips with his buddies, and their favourite meal of "pulled pork"; he had a pork shoulder and I ran with it.)

Also, 80-90 year old folks who wear a mask, but their nose is hanging out. I don't fuss, although I'm slightly less likely to offer to pack their groceries, if they're sort of competent.
 
BetteTheRed said:
And presumably, it would only be deemed assault should you acquire COVID-19 within 14 days of such an assault.
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If I punch you and you don't suffer any lasting harm, it's still assault, so breathing on you with the intent of spreading covid should be enough for assault. Actually giving someone COVID through deliberate action should be attempted murder. And if you die ... yeah, you see where this is headed. We are far too easy on these dopes. And I believe there is a precedent with someone who was HIV-positive having unprotected sex with unaware partners.
 
Junior was over today and we had a kinda relaxed conversation. His company is planning education sessions in classrooms in Quebec- and I was happy to hear him say he definitely would not go because of the risk (besides he probably couldn’t being unvaccinated). Asked if he would get vaccinated he was at “ maybe”. And- he took the numbing cream I had purchased for him in case he will get vaccinated. I offered him tompay for any wage loss he might have if he isn’t feeling well the next day ( he has zero sick days and very few vacation days).
 
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