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ChemGal said:
it wasn't a big deal because they don't understand the difference between being proactive and reactive.
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Wiser words never spoken. If you constantly live in proactive mode, you rarely have to engage in the more panicked, and more likely to blow up, reactive position.
 
It's honestly why health units have dealt so well with vaccine roll-outs, largely. To the extent that they are allowed, and funded, to be, public health units (whatever they're called) are in the business of keeping a keen eye on what might be coming up, and how they might plan/mobilize for it. I've know programmers, and higher level statisticians in our health unit, and they've impressed me a great deal.
 
BetteTheRed said:
It's honestly why health units have dealt so well with vaccine roll-outs, largely. To the extent that they are allowed, and funded, to be, public health units (whatever they're called) are in the business of keeping a keen eye on what might be coming up, and how they might plan/mobilize for it. I've know programmers, and higher level statisticians in our health unit, and they've impressed me a great deal.
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Somewhat. I found some planning to be off, especially considering the leas time. Even the prioritization, that could have been done better IMO. Issues coming from the top moreso than the more localized units when broken down. Although individual local units had issues too, like giving the wrong vaccine.
 
Well, maybe I live in an exemplary health unit, because I can really find no fault with our roll-out. I'm going to suggest that the prioritization was largely a provincial decision.
 
ChemGal said:
Although individual local units had issues too, like giving the wrong vaccine.
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Well overall IMO mixing vaccines is a huge med error that contradicts the manufacturers own instructions how the vaccines are to be given.
Overrided by those in charge within Canada to suit their own criteria....thus becoming a problem for travel to other countries now, who did follow the instructions on the box.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Well, maybe I live in an exemplary health unit, because I can really find no fault with our roll-out. I'm going to suggest that the prioritization was largely a provincial decision.
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Here there were certainly issues, one pharmacy didn't contact me until the phase after the one I was in. Shoppers was a mess. Then there was the issue of no AHS clinics in my subzone, the out of town issue, not being able to go in to infuse there, etc.
Didn't hear of expired doses being administered, injections not containing vaccine or the wrong vaccine being given, but that did happen elsewhere.
 
If it can be conceived ... anything can happen due to the excess that's out there ... a virtual unknown to those that do not believe in an unknown!

Such belief that they have everything in hand creates for me a grand enigma ... similar to a fixed and instituted God given the exceptions ...

The consequences may be detrimental ...
 
Yes there are plenty of problems. I was complaining about the BC online vaccine registration screen. Then I paused and wondered that it worked at all. It’s not a simple set of screens. When I was working (now retired) such a job would have taken many months, more like over a year. The pressure on the programmers must have been high.

As for the “breakthrough infections“ if you study the data closely it does seem like vaccines do work, if not perfectly. As several others have noted.

Still, the Delta variant has me worried and I’m still secluding. Evolutionary pressure gives it the edge.

The real fear is that the virus might mutate in such a way to evade the vaccine protection. But I try not to think about it.
 
EasternOrthodox said:
Yes there are plenty of problems. I was complaining about the BC online vaccine registration screen. Then I paused and wondered that it worked at all. It’s not a simple set of screens. When I was working (now retired) such a job would have taken many months, more like over a year. The pressure on the programmers must have been high.

As for the “breakthrough infections“ if you study the data closely it does seem like vaccines do work, if not perfectly. As several others have noted.

Still, the Delta variant has me worried and I’m still secluding. Evolutionary pressure gives it the edge.

The real fear is that the virus might mutate in such a way to evade the vaccine protection. But I try not to think about it.
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Evolution? What! Can we deny that too ...
 
EasternOrthodox said:
When I was working (now retired) such a job would have taken many months, more like over a year. The pressure on the programmers must have been high.
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Except no one who is sane builds a system like that from scratch in the 21st century. You license a cloud-based booking system, configure it with the services you are booking appointments for, and style it with your branding. If programmers are involved at all, it is to create an integration with a back-end system and even those are mostly done with no-code/low code toolsets.

We are implementing online booking for appointments and no programmers are involved. We are using Microsoft Bookings and all the work on our side is just styling and configuration. The member of my team working on it isn't a programmer, just a network support guy. My dev team aren't even involved.
 
Mendalla said:
Except no one who is sane builds a system like that from scratch in the 21st century. You license a cloud-based booking system, configure it with the services you are booking appointments for, and style it with your branding. If programmers are involved at all, it is to create an integration with a back-end system and even those are mostly done with no-code/low code toolsets.

We are implementing online booking for appointments and no programmers are involved. We are using Microsoft Bookings and all the work on our side is just styling and configuration. The member of my team working on it isn't a programmer, just a network support guy. My dev team aren't even involved.
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Things must have changed since I retired 8 years ago.

Although there were some things that were existing modules then. The part that displayed a calendar and returned the user picked date was standard.

I was actually maintaining the mainframe system while an endless string of contractors tried to move the system to the web. They had been trying and failing for several years despite large teams working on it. The business wasn’t all that complicated and a single person could easily maintain the mainframe system. They were still working on the web based system when I retired.

However, the calendar app was the part that was failing on the BC vaccine scheduler.

It was saying every date was taken, no matter how far in the future you went. I switched from Safari to the more widely used Chrome and the problem cleared up.
 
BetteTheRed said:
That's part of the problem - different browsers. Chrome and Edge seem to be two that most apps interface with best.
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Chrome and Edge are now actually the same under the hood. Google and Microsoft just put different skins on them (and you can see similarities even there). I only used the London booking site (they ran their own rather than using Ontario's) but it worked fine in the usual suspects on both desktop and my phone. The other browser I have used at times is Firefox but it was getting a bit flaky last I used it and it has never been as good at synchronizing between devices as Chrome. Right now, I used Edge at work and Chrome at home.
 
And nothing seems to work with explorer other than the things that were set up as bookmarks for me.
 
Mendalla said:
Chrome and Edge are now actually the same under the hood.
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Well, OK. Interestingly enough, tried to run Netflix on the old church laptop last night (movie night; ended in disaster; it's been a bad week). Insisted that it needed an update to Chrome before we could run Netflix. Because we didn't feel like faffing around (and couldn't immediately find the "pending updates" icon), I said to Sheralyn, "try it on Edge", and it was fine.
 
I know, and it totally confounds your average user. I find it interesting that in Apple-land, there's rarely more than one way to do things as a user. In PC land, there's often a s**t-ton of things to try, if you have some ideas of what to try.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I know, and it totally confounds your average user. I find it interesting that in Apple-land, there's rarely more than one way to do things as a user. In PC land, there's often a s**t-ton of things to try, if you have some ideas of what to try.
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OTOH, the reason there is only one way to do things in Apple-land is because it is controlled by a tyrannical corporation who wants all your moneys. The day they closed their box and stopped allowing end user upgrades is the day I decided to steer clear. I am not going to buy a new device every time I need more storage or memory.
 
I'm apparently inheriting my daughter's iPhone 7, as she upgrades, due to being properly employed again. I will let you know what I think. I had an iMac for many years, and finally gave up, although I like the OS, in general, due to the huge premium in price compared to the PC.
 
Considering all the observations and gathered intelligence that some rigidly deny ... is denial a viral problem or a human enigma?

Can human complexities be resolved? Some of us have vast doubts that there is a place for such information in the human go round!

Go-round? That is the dizzying trend of human blind passions ... dark and abstract! Thus the struggle between the white and black ... and word in print really confuses great masses of the devoid psyche ... those that sacrificed all thought for a grand emotion ...

Difficult for getting heads about ... life's like that it appears! Mostly in the dark and mysterious ... regardless of who claims to know it all ... I am left sort of dismissed or dismiss 've! Like a delta Don, or when the lights go out down there ... the veil descents! In Celtic domains that could be Glen!

Likely Nietzsche ... still poorly understood as many feel they don't require understanding ... understood? It is subtle ...

Imagine a land in peak emotions as great ... then the dark nemesis goes hypo ... that's "down"! The chaos may get under your skin ... edifice?

(to be continued ...)
 
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