Lastpointe
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Even if he oddly got a vaccine it takes two weeks for it to be effective. In general
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On the first point, nope. Still got to wear a mask.Guy came in the store today claiming he didn't have to wear a mask, as he'd been vaccinated. Apparently, that is NOT the current rules. Also, he was apparently middle-aged, so how did he get vaccinated?
If he worked in the health system, he would have been told that he is to continue with all covid precautions as usual.Maybe he works in long term care?
It is not even dissent that you are not allowing anymore ... it has moved past marginalizing or moving my posts to just deleting them. It does not upset me as much as it baffles me. People here speculate on almost everything more than they provide any evidence ... when I take exception to that my posts are ridiculed removed or reprimanded.And since when have we not allowed dissent?
And I am getting even more tired of the BS that masks are mandatory to stop the spread.I'm getting quite tired of this BS. Do as you're told, or stay out of the store.
And that is all he had to say. He does not have to wear a mask by law. Any one that tries to force him to is liable to be sued if he decides to go that route. Further to that ... wearing a mask just to make others feel better about being afraid ... not a very wholistically healthy approach ... so people that refuse to wear masks when they are healthy ... that is what we need more of not less of ... many of us are tired of playing the 'sick' game and we have evidence 50 ways to Sunday to back us up. Here is my latest 'evidence' ... you can read it or not ... but none of you here have any grounds whatsoever to disrespect my choices. I can provide numerous studies as well citing the adverse affects of mask wearing but I doubt anyone will even read this one so. I will leave it here for now.Guy came in the store today claiming he didn't have to wear a mask
Hahaha! I knew Paul Alexander's name sounded familiar. Just today it was reported that Alexander broke a report embargo and leaked information to the US Government, while under Trump, regarding a report on Hydrozychloroqine. The findings, including the ones he leaked, do not indicate that Hydrozychloroqine is effective for treating covid, and do state that it can have potentially dangerous side effects! Still DEBUNKED. But he left his job at McMaster and took a job with the US government last summer, trying to tell Fauci what to say on behalf of Trump. Anyway, he's a Trump "shill" (I know that word is popular with some).It is not even dissent that you are not allowing anymore ... it has moved past marginalizing or moving my posts to just deleting them. It does not upset me as much as it baffles me. People here speculate on almost everything more than they provide any evidence ... when I take exception to that my posts are ridiculed removed or reprimanded.
I am managing it ... and so far I have avoided being banned. I will not waste more time with this in this thread.
Moving right along...
And I am getting even more tired of the BS that masks are mandatory to stop the spread.
If your 'leader' said tomorrow that masking in stores was no longer necessary (by magic of the rules changed again) would the owner of the store you work in continue to enforce it? No one should have been expected to enforce it in the first place ... no matter what age they are.
Masks should never have been mandated for healthy people in the general public, especially children, ever.
And that is all he had to say. He does not have to wear a mask by law. Any one that tries to force him to is liable to be sued if he decides to go that route. Further to that ... wearing a mask just to make others feel better about being afraid ... not a very wholistically healthy approach ... so people that refuse to wear masks when they are healthy ... that is what we need more of not less of ... many of us are tired of playing the 'sick' game and we have evidence 50 ways to Sunday to back us up. Here is my latest 'evidence' ... you can read it or not ... but none of you here have any grounds whatsoever to disrespect my choices. I can provide numerous studies as well citing the adverse affects of mask wearing but I doubt anyone will even read this one so. I will leave it here for now.
The CDC’s Mask Mandate Study: DEBUNKED Paul E. Alexander
– March 4, 2021 Reading Time: 9 minutes
The CDC’s Mask Mandate Study: Debunked
"Trusting the science means relying on the scientific process and method and not merely ‘following the leader.’ It is not the same as trusting, without verification, the conclusory statements of human beings simply because they have scientific training or credentials. This is especially so if...www.aier.org
Paul E. Alexander received his bachelor’s degree in epidemiology from McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, a master’s degree from Oxford University, and a PhD from McMaster University’s Department of Health Research Methods, Evidence, and Impact.'
Blind cc'd in case of non-censoring non-banning deletion.
Hahaha! I knew nobody would read the article on it's own merit. I read your smear article which really did not say much at all to discredit Paul Alexander to my reading of it. It was a CTV smear attempt but I am used to reading between the lines of those.Hahaha! I knew Paul Alexander's name sounded familiar. Just today it was reported that Alexander broke a report embargo and leaked information to the US Government, while under Trump, regarding a report on Hydrozychloroqine. The findings, including the ones he leaked, do not indicate that Hydrozychloroqine is effective for treating covid, and do state that it can have potentially dangerous side effects! Still DEBUNKED. But he left his job at McMaster and took a job with the US government last summer, trying to tell Fauci what to say on behalf of Trump. Anyway, he's a Trump "shill" (I know that word is popular with some).
McMaster-affiliated researcher broke embargo to leak hydroxychloroquine study to Trump administration: BMJ
A former assistant professor and researcher at McMaster University leaked an embargoed report of potential COVID-19 treatments to the Trump administration, suggesting that it lent support to the use of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, according to the British Medical Journal.www.ctvnews.ca
Ancedotal evidence is far stronger for vaccination beneficial effects.Anecdotal evidence is strong with vaccination side effects.
But your objection to masking, is so trivial, so not a hill to die for, that you undermine your own credibility. It's also oxymoronic.
Maybe you ought to start talking to some different people. And listening to different people.CTV
Hahaha! I knew nobody would read the article on it's own merit. I read your smear article which really did not say much at all to discredit Paul Alexander to my reading of it. It was a CTV smear attempt but I am used to reading between the lines of those.
No matter ... I have known for quite sometime that no matter what certification I provide to support my 'scientific' evaluation of the situation at hand ... there will be a counter narrative to get persons that are not at all interested in reading anything for themselves. As I have said many times before ... this can go around and round forever so let us just stick with the law ... mandatory masking is against the law. That is why Bette has to allow for non-maskers in her store whether she likes it or not. I have not been inside a 'mandatory mask' space for over 2 months now ... because In all good conscience ... I know that wearing a mask as a pretense to good will towards all men is counter intuitive to actually being 'socially' responsible. The sooner people understand that masking does not need to be mandatory the better. It's never going to happen if everyone keeps complying for the sake of complying. It is not healthy and I am not going to pretend it is. Ancedotely ... 90 percent of the people that I talk to agree that they are just doing it to appease the fearful and not because they have any faith that it makes good health sense.
It wasn't a smear. It's facts. It states what happened, who Paul Alexander is - that he was no longer affiliated with McMaster since he went to work for the US government last summer.CTV
Hahaha! I knew nobody would read the article on it's own merit. I read your smear article which really did not say much at all to discredit Paul Alexander to my reading of it. It was a CTV smear attempt but I am used to reading between the lines of those.
No matter ... I have known for quite sometime that no matter what certification I provide to support my 'scientific' evaluation of the situation at hand ... there will be a counter narrative to get persons that are not at all interested in reading anything for themselves. As I have said many times before ... this can go around and round forever so let us just stick with the law ... mandatory masking is against the law. That is why Bette has to allow for non-maskers in her store whether she likes it or not. I have not been inside a 'mandatory mask' space for over 2 months now ... because In all good conscience ... I know that wearing a mask as a pretense to good will towards all men is counter intuitive to actually being 'socially' responsible. The sooner people understand that masking does not need to be mandatory the better. It's never going to happen if everyone keeps complying for the sake of complying. It is not healthy and I am not going to pretend it is. Ancedotely ... 90 percent of the people that I talk to agree that they are just doing it to appease the fearful and not because they have any faith that it makes good health sense.
Nope ... that is media Trumping up the useful idiots that will now half wittingly deny any support to the use of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine ... which they are still using in 'smarter' cultures to good effect. But hey 50 years of evidence is just flushed down the toilet if Trump happens to validate it. Cuz ... the Fauci science ... who also works for the US government if I am not mistaken ... and has some vested interests in promoting vaccination above prevention ... well his 'word' is good as gold ... skip the science.It wasn't a smear. It states what happened, who Paul Alexander is - that he was no longer affiliated with McMaster since he went to work for the US government last summer.
He took a job with the Trump regime to help Trump save face for promoting erroneous information. He left McMaster to work for Trump's interests. If you want to talk about "government authority" misinforming you - there it is.
You believe all the wrong news. You are clearly partisan to some crazy right wing disinformation. You have been for awhile. My eyes glaze over at what you say.Nope ... that is media Trumping up the useful idiots that will now half wittingly deny any support to the use of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine ... which they are still using in 'smarter' cultures to good effect. But hey 50 years of evidence is just flushed down the toilet if Trump happens to validate it. Cuz ... the Fauci science ... who also works for the US government if I am not mistaken ... and has some vested interests in promoting vaccination above prevention ... well his 'word' is good as gold ... skip the science.
Scientific training or credentials mean not a lot if their views and inquiry have become politicized.
Dr. Martin Kulldorff of Harvard’s Medical School has recently commented on the present Covid-19 scientific and research environment by stating, “After 300 years, the Age of Enlightenment has ended.”
Sadly, I must agree, that it’s not just that the age of enlightenment has come to an end, but indeed, that the science itself has been politicized and severely corrupted.