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Why not something like you must wear a mask to enter, if you cannot wear one, we offer online services or phone customer service number for help.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I think this point is being widely overlooked. I've even done it. So, it's good you mentioned it.
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There's been some instances highlighted - someone without arms, someone who was wearing a clear covering as her daughter lip reads (it wasn't a mask). Plus just some parents in the community who have kids with autism and they cannot tolerate them, I suspect there would be adults with similar issues too.
 
So don't take your autistic kids into the grocery store until this is over. 99.5% of people with legit concerns (and there's about, really, none) can cope with this. A clear covering is fine. A shield instead of a mask is fine. An inefficient gaiter is fine. Just make an effort. Please.
 
BetteTheRed said:
So don't take your autistic kids into the grocery store until this is over. 99.5% of people with legit concerns (and there's about, really, none) can cope with this. A clear covering is fine. A shield instead of a mask is fine. An inefficient gaiter is fine. Just make an effort. Please.
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The clear covering wasn't fine - that's what the problem was.
I don't see the really none. I've seen people when getting medical services for myself.
And for those with autistic kids I understand the difficulties they may have. Not everything is available online, I've experienced that myself. Getting a babysitter for a neurodiverse child can be much more difficult plus not everyone can afford a babysitter.
 
Or just use manners when you can't wear a mask. I've seen people walk into places without a mask who have not made a big deal of it. They've maintained their distance appropriately and have respected those who do wear masks, and the staff. If you can't wear a mask, simply so. Don't make a scene or make bulls**t excuses.
 
@BetteTheRed I do feel you on those who are just selfish. I see one most weeks I go for treatment. The guy who pulls the mask out of his pocket, while talking on his phone going up the stairs and sticks it one before entering the clinic and then pulls it below his nose as apparently that's necessary for the short time he's waiting to read his cellphone (no glasses are fogging up). He doesn't care who he is near.

The woman who had obviously had some sort of procedure on her face - wasn't standing near people and breathing on them.
 
I just wonder why we have to spell it out. There's so very, very few legit examples of "I can't wear a mask" and so many alternatives to breathing all over me, that I'm sorta flabbergasted that we have to have this conversation.

Two legit reasons to be unable to wear a mask (a simple surgical one): a skin condition on one's face that would make it impossible to have a mask touching it, like a 3rd degree burn. WTF are you outside exposing your 3rd degree skin mess to infection? ii) a documented psychological condition that makes it impossible for you to cover your nose and mouth. That would identify a level of agoraphobia that would suggest that assistance is required quite outside of interaction with essential workers.
ChemGal said:
How would posting up a phone number so one could do curbside pickup of an item be an issue with that?
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Because not every vendor of choice actually offers curbside pick-up.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Two legit reasons to be unable to wear a mask (a simple surgical one): a skin condition on one's face that would make it impossible to have a mask touching it, like a 3rd degree burn. WTF are you outside exposing your 3rd degree skin mess to infection?
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For medical treatment.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I just wonder why we have to spell it out. There's so very, very few legit examples of "I can't wear a mask" and so many alternatives to breathing all over me, that I'm sorta flabbergasted that we have to have this conversation.

Two legit reasons to be unable to wear a mask (a simple surgical one): a skin condition on one's face that would make it impossible to have a mask touching it, like a 3rd degree burn. WTF are you outside exposing your 3rd degree skin mess to infection? ii) a documented psychological condition that makes it impossible for you to cover your nose and mouth. That would identify a level of agoraphobia that would suggest that assistance is required quite outside of interaction with essential workers.


Because not every vendor of choice actually offers curbside pick-up.
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People need a way to get items. So if not offering an alternative, they should be let in.
 
Northwind said:
Or just use manners when you can't wear a mask. I've seen people walk into places without a mask who have not made a big deal of it. They've maintained their distance appropriately and have respected those who do wear masks, and the staff. If you can't wear a mask, simply so. Don't make a scene or make bulls**t excuses.
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The problem is that, where I live, the Health Unit wants us to have a door person, who will offer a mask to the unmasked, but then, if they say "medical exemption", we just accept it. Worse still, if an employee asks a customer to place their mask appropriately, like over their nose, they get in s**t. My franchise owner is a bit spineless.
 
BetteTheRed said:
The problem is that, where I live, the Health Unit wants us to have a door person, who will offer a mask to the unmasked, but then, if they say "medical exemption", we just accept it. Worse still, if an employee asks a customer to place their mask appropriately, like over their nose, they get in s**t. My franchise owner is a bit spineless.
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At the very least I think a reminder to those with medical exemptions when doing something like shopping should be reminded about distancing - for everyone's safety. I would prefer that there would just be an option for them to get all items if it's for shopping from curbside.
The half maskers - they should get in s**t from everyone else IMO.
 
ChemGal said:
People need a way to get items. So if not offering an alternative, they should be let in.
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Every store? The NF at the other end of town, and many other grocery stores, have a "no mask, no service" policy, like the widely accepted, "no shoes, no shirt, no service", which is completely common in Ontario. Chemgal, can you honestly think of a person who can't throw a bandana over their nose to pop in and get a few items?

For medical care, in a medical facility, completely different thing. Presumably, they would be treating whatever medical condition made you unable to wear a mask?

No private company is obliged to provide you with groceries if you are breaking laws instituted by health units? And I don't think that anything would mandate curbside pick up. If you have a preferred grocery store, you live with their limitations. You wouldn't expect curbside pick-up from a convenience store.
 
OTOH, I've got a 95 year old granny who shops here. Slow as molasses in January, mask under her large nose, her own bags, which stink of tobacco. I pack her stinky bags, I don't say anything about her mask. She can't see, she shouts me PIN# so I can do her debit transaction for her. I am not heartless; I am firm.
 
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