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I agree Kimmio. We went for a walk in Bowen Park this week. It was nice to see people respecting each other's space and being courteous. We're also blessed with good weather and spaces to get out safely if necessary. It seems too that BC has more businesses open. That would suggest opening up a bit can be done safely.
 
The weed store is an essential service here. Lol. (It's owned/ contracted by the provincial liquor store and they've been open all along so it makes some sense - though liquor has a tendency to magnify anger in people that's concerning, weed is different) were closed for a few weeks due to staff shortages. Now, I noticed the one in my area has tape on the sidewalk (it looks to be about 1.5 meter spacing, whereas, Save On is a good 2 metres) for people lining up and they only let a few people - 3 or 4, in at a time. Maybe that's it! It makes isolation times a mellowed, happier experience. Lol.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
If the numbers are much higher here than currently known, that's good news. If people's symptoms are mild enough for a large number of cases to be "brushed off", It means the fatality rate is really low here, regardless of who gets it. It means that it's a mild illness in a vast majority of people. On Vancouver Island, all 4 deaths were very elderly seniors from care homes who contracted the virus there, and died, is my understanding.
The care home that avoided cases (there has to be dozens of such homes on the Island that skipped covid outbreaks, considering how many seniors nursing homes and living facilities - and visitors, and seniors in general - there are here) is because nobody shedding covid went into those places. People have to be exposed, to get it. Also, some of the January flu and pneumonia numbers in those facilities, may have been covid before we knew covid was around here.
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Alberta has really good info being published on their site if you're curious about things like death rate based on age.
covid19stats.alberta.ca

Respiratory virus dashboard

Interactive aggregate data on respiratory related cases in Alberta
covid19stats.alberta.ca covid19stats.alberta.ca

I don't recall the exact date, but testing here has changed over time, based on what could be handled. Before it was opened to everyone with mild symptoms, it was those in Calgary with symptoms (highest numbers at the time) and those over 65/living over 65, so even that would skew it to above 65. The less criteria that's required for testing, the more likely it is to be a good sampling of the general population. Even with the any symptom aspect, the more sick someone is, the more likely they are going to be making contact to get tested.
 
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Northwind said:
And likely similar factors are involved. Poor working conditions, having to work in more than one facility, etc. Another factor in the High River, AB situation is that employees lived together and commuted together. I'm not sure if that's a factor in other plants. These things can't just be broken down to one factor.
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People were also showing up to work with symptoms despite the laws in places. Some of it likely related to being temporary foreign workers and being concerned about residency if not going to work. Some of it was mentioned as being cultural too - high work ethic (and I would throw in minor financial flexibility, so the norm one deals with when there's not a pandemic) and not calling in sick for minor symptoms.
 
ChemGal said:
People were also showing up to work with symptoms despite the laws in places. Some of it likely related to being temporary foreign workers and being concerned about residency if not going to work. Some of it was mentioned as being cultural too - high work ethic (and I would throw in minor financial flexibility, so the norm one deals with when there's not a pandemic) and not calling in sick for minor symptoms.
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Really makes me wonder what adjustments hospitals might have made to their "attendance management" programs.

Granted it was seven years ago, but the last time I worked in a hospital, there was tremendous pressure on employees to reduce the number of sick days taken. So yes, don't call in sick for minor problems & the message was you should stay home when you were seriously ill. But mixed messages abounded. The whole program seemed to be based on the assumption that many folks were cheating on their sick time usage.

Unions have challenged these programs, I know. So I am not sure what is happening in today's climate. I imagine a hospital is a very stressful place to be working these days.
 
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So I am not sure what is happening in today's climate.
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One of my team is married to a nurse (actually two are but I have not heard much about the other), and she has been off since they went into self-isolation after coming back from the US. She tested negative two or three weeks ago but has sniffles due to spring allergies so the hospital keeps putting off her return. COVID has not had much impact on the London hospitals so with most non-emergency procedures cancelled, they probably don't need her back so can afford to play cautious.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
They are, though. More areas, and more range of ages, in the past month. Still, Vancouver Island in particular has not seen a big rise in cases - a few gradual ones trickling in - and we've not seen increases in deaths and hospitalization or icu stays.

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Ok, I stated that based on what the news article had stated, would have to go back to see the quote, they said it was just Alberta and one of the provinces that was out East, forget the specific one.
 
ChemGal said:
But they are not publishing who they are testing, Alberta is.
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BC has not been stating which communities have covid. That has been frustrating especially for the Northern Health Authority region. That region covers about Prince George and north. That's a huge reason. The province says they are not disclosing that information to protect people's privacy. That's nuts.
 
Northwind said:
And likely similar factors are involved. Poor working conditions, having to work in more than one facility, etc. Another factor in the High River, AB situation is that employees lived together and commuted together. I'm not sure if that's a factor in other plants. These things can't just be broken down to one factor.
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Whatever all the other factors are, they're all eventually meeting in common work places and exposing one another to their various circumstances within a crowded work environment....with no room for proper social distancing.
 
Ritafee said:
CNN might not be the best news source about these Times Of India ...
timesofindia.indiatimes.com

As lockdown extension looms large, food insecurity haunts Bengaluru’s poor | Bengaluru News - Times of India

With the lockdown most likely to be extended till month-end, a growing food insecurity haunts Bengaluru’s underprivileged, thousands of whom are alrea
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Bengaluru: Social distancing goes for a toss as people wait for free food pass

The responsibility of maintaining social distancing lies on everyone of us, especially those who are public servants and public representatives. However, most times political leaders who distribute food to the needy often fail to take steps to see that their good deed doesn't result in crowding...
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Yes I was aware of these further problems related to India's lockdown, but my comment was directed towards the number of infections and deaths only, just because it's a very low number compared to population.:)
 
Ivan Franko has always had a great reputation in this area & is generously and actively supported by the large Ukrainian community.

On this past Sunday, two of my friends, one an RN the other an OT, went as volunteers to Eatonville to feed breakfast to residents. Eatonville has been terribly hit by the virus - both residents & staff. They said it was incredibly sad, and the staff there are 'broken' - traumatized from dealing with so many deaths under such stress from mgmt, and now media scrutiny. Staff in LTC homes often become really attached to their residents and grief was palpable. Very tragic for all.
 
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Ivan Franko has always had a great reputation in this area & is generously and actively supported by the large Ukrainian community.

On this past Sunday, two of my friends, one an RN the other an OT, went as volunteers to Eatonville to feed breakfast to residents. Eatonville has been terribly hit by the virus - both residents & staff. They said it was incredibly sad, and the staff there are 'broken' - traumatized from dealing with so many deaths under such stress from mgmt, and now media scrutiny. Staff in LTC homes often become really attached to their residents and grief was palpable. Very tragic for all.
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It's lovely that the smaller home is doing so well (85 residents), but Eatonville has 275, I could see more of a challenge especially if management is working against you.
 
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