Of course but it's not necessarily healthy forever.
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Mrs.Anteater
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Everybody coming into our hospital gets tested for Covid aside from all other tests. Can you tell me when was the last time that people in Western countries died by the hundreds in one city or counrty within 24 hrs? Can’t remember? So, what’s you problem again?
Northwind
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Well time will tell. Dismiss the experts as you will. I hope you and those you love stay well.
Northwind
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It won't be forever.
Every single day people in any given country die by the hundreds or thousands.
So what about the deaths caused by the fallout of this. They will affect people of all ages in the long term. Given that, I'd keep a skeptical eye on this.
So do I. I'm not breaking the rules so I am not "dismissing" them. Pardon me for being skeptical of a world under lockdown. Because that's just normal and fine.
Hospitals maybe. In general when people have a cold or flu they don't go to the hospital and if they need to go to the doctor for a note they rarely get tested. It's generally seen as a waste of resources if it's going around and it's obvious.
ChemGal
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And right now we're trying to minimize that as much as possible.
No we're not. What about all the other causes? Is the solution to never leave the house again except for groceries?
ChemGal
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Why do you think so much effort is being put in by so many different people?
Northwind
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Part of the reason for these extreme measures is to prevent that as much as possible. If the hospital is overwhelmed by people sick with Covid they won't be able to help people with other health emergencies.
I think the effort is being misspent. It should spent on wide testing to isolate those who verifiably have covid from those who don't and determine who already has antibodies - not draconian measures.
Testing, testing! They (the powers) dropped the freaking ball and they are very close to exploiting us (the public) because of their own mistakes.
ChemGal
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There's a fair bit of testing being done. There has been effort being put into other ways of getting tests.
Testing itself doesn't fix any of the issues that prevent deaths though.
Northwind
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And there aren't enough tests to go around.
Because this virus spreads so quickly and because there are so many unknowns, social measures are the best approach right now.
But @Kimmio Laughterlove if you know better than the experts please do connect with them and offer your expertise.....
Sure, there will be negatives come from this. How could there not be? There will also be policy change and positives. Heck, Ford and Freeland are getting along. Who knew that could happen?
ChemGal
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Yeah, and it's not just 1 aspect you need:
- people to do the sampling
- swabs
- all the different aspects to do the testing, for PCR this includes the machines, solvents, enzymes, nucleotides
- people to run the tests, interpret and report them
- people to inform individuals if their test is positive/negative
The ball was dropped. They’ve had months. It’s (covid) probably been here in Canada and elsewhere besides China since December being assumed to be a bad cold/ flu.
And even if lockdown is the only way to stop the spread right now (they need to get widely testing pronto because to isolate people with colds and have asymptomatic people with covid working in the community is nonsense) ...it leaves us so vulnerable to exploitation...the environment, protest, those efforts have ground to a halt. That will lead to long term damage to humanity.
Northwind
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Absolutely the ball was dropped. When I saw my doctor in January to ask about the flu and pneumonia vaccines, he knew about it then. There's a photo of the newspaper the day Kobe Bryant died at the end of January with a story saying they needed to find a vaccine for corona. It sucks that the ball was dropped. Sadly, we humans seem to need to have something whack us over the head before we take it seriously. We cannot change the past.
We need to demand wide testing and antibody testing. But who would listen now? We’re kind of hog-tied. In that sense we have already been exploited, I think.