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I believe McDonalds get all the chicken nuggets premade and they just heat them up....so it would have been at the nugget manufacturing plant it occurred. Even though they masks might eventually break down, it did cause a choking incident and I doubt a mask would break down that fast.

At one point they were made at Schneider's in K-W. My step-son worked there and made them. That was years ago so it could be different today.
 
Here's just the beginning of a stunning piece in the New York Times by Apoorva Mandavilli on how the Covid-19 pandemic is creating a nightmare global soup of other spreading diseases. I must admit this one shocked me. Tom

"It begins with a mild fever and malaise, followed by a painful cough and shortness of breath. The infection prospers in crowds, spreading to people in close reach. Containing an outbreak requires contact tracing, as well as isolation and treatment of the sick for weeks or months.

"This insidious disease has touched every part of the globe. It is tuberculosis, the biggest infectious-disease killer worldwide, claiming 1.5 million lives each year.

"Until this year, TB and its deadly allies, H.I.V. and malaria, were on the run. The toll from each disease over the previous decade was at its nadir in 2018, the last year for which data are available.

"Yet now, as the coronavirus pandemic spreads around the world, consuming global health resources, these perennially neglected adversaries are making a comeback.

“Covid-19 risks derailing all our efforts and taking us back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Dr. Pedro L. Alonso, the director of the World Health Organization’s global malaria program.

"It’s not just that the coronavirus has diverted scientific attention from TB, H.I.V. and malaria. The lockdowns, particularly across parts of Africa, Asia and Latin America, have raised insurmountable barriers to patients who must travel to obtain diagnoses or drugs, according to interviews with more than two dozen public health officials, doctors and patients worldwide.

"Fear of the coronavirus and the shuttering of clinics have kept away many patients struggling with H.I.V., TB and malaria, while restrictions on air and sea travel have severely limited delivery of medications to the hardest-hit regions.

"About 80 percent of tuberculosis, H.I.V. and malaria programs worldwide have reported disruptions in services, and one in four people living with H.I.V. have reported problems with gaining access to medications, according to U.N. AIDS. Interruptions or delays in treatment may lead to drug resistance, already a formidable problem in many countries.

"In India, home to about 27 percent of the world’s TB cases, diagnoses have dropped by nearly 75 percent since the pandemic began. In Russia, H.I.V. clinics have been repurposed for coronavirus testing.

"Malaria season has begun in Africa, which has 90 percent of malaria deaths in the world, but the normal strategies for prevention — distribution of insecticide-treated bed nets and spraying with pesticides — have been curtailed because of lockdowns.

"According to one estimate, a three-month lockdown across different parts of the world and a gradual return to normal over 10 months could result in an additional 6.3 million cases of tuberculosis and 1.4 million deaths from it.

"A six-month disruption of antiretroviral therapy may lead to more than 500,000 additional deaths from illnesses related to H.I.V., according to the W.H.O. Another model by the W.H.O. predicted that in the worst-case scenario, deaths from malaria could double to 770,000 per year.

"Several public health experts, some close to tears, warned that if the current trends continue, the coronavirus is likely to set back years, perhaps decades, of painstaking progress against TB, H.I.V. and malaria.

"The Global Fund, a public-private partnership to fight these diseases, estimates that mitigating this damage will require at least $28.5 billion, a sum that is unlikely to materialize...."
 
At one point they were made at Schneider's in K-W. My step-son worked there and made them. That was years ago so it could be different today.

Maple Leaf closed the old Schneider's plant, I think. That's what I vaguely recall, anyhow. Too bad. I remember the, um, lovely odour :sick: wafting from it when I was riding out to my friend's place in Forest Heights.
 
Here's just the beginning of a stunning piece in the New York Times by Apoorva Mandavilli on how the Covid-19 pandemic is creating a nightmare global soup of other spreading diseases. I must admit this one shocked me. Tom

"It begins with a mild fever and malaise, followed by a painful cough and shortness of breath. The infection prospers in crowds, spreading to people in close reach. Containing an outbreak requires contact tracing, as well as isolation and treatment of the sick for weeks or months.

"This insidious disease has touched every part of the globe. It is tuberculosis, the biggest infectious-disease killer worldwide, claiming 1.5 million lives each year.

"Until this year, TB and its deadly allies, H.I.V. and malaria, were on the run. The toll from each disease over the previous decade was at its nadir in 2018, the last year for which data are available.

"Yet now, as the coronavirus pandemic spreads around the world, consuming global health resources, these perennially neglected adversaries are making a comeback.

“Covid-19 risks derailing all our efforts and taking us back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Dr. Pedro L. Alonso, the director of the World Health Organization’s global malaria program.

"It’s not just that the coronavirus has diverted scientific attention from TB, H.I.V. and malaria. The lockdowns, particularly across parts of Africa, Asia and Latin America, have raised insurmountable barriers to patients who must travel to obtain diagnoses or drugs, according to interviews with more than two dozen public health officials, doctors and patients worldwide.

"Fear of the coronavirus and the shuttering of clinics have kept away many patients struggling with H.I.V., TB and malaria, while restrictions on air and sea travel have severely limited delivery of medications to the hardest-hit regions.

"About 80 percent of tuberculosis, H.I.V. and malaria programs worldwide have reported disruptions in services, and one in four people living with H.I.V. have reported problems with gaining access to medications, according to U.N. AIDS. Interruptions or delays in treatment may lead to drug resistance, already a formidable problem in many countries.

"In India, home to about 27 percent of the world’s TB cases, diagnoses have dropped by nearly 75 percent since the pandemic began. In Russia, H.I.V. clinics have been repurposed for coronavirus testing.

"Malaria season has begun in Africa, which has 90 percent of malaria deaths in the world, but the normal strategies for prevention — distribution of insecticide-treated bed nets and spraying with pesticides — have been curtailed because of lockdowns.

"According to one estimate, a three-month lockdown across different parts of the world and a gradual return to normal over 10 months could result in an additional 6.3 million cases of tuberculosis and 1.4 million deaths from it.

"A six-month disruption of antiretroviral therapy may lead to more than 500,000 additional deaths from illnesses related to H.I.V., according to the W.H.O. Another model by the W.H.O. predicted that in the worst-case scenario, deaths from malaria could double to 770,000 per year.

"Several public health experts, some close to tears, warned that if the current trends continue, the coronavirus is likely to set back years, perhaps decades, of painstaking progress against TB, H.I.V. and malaria.

"The Global Fund, a public-private partnership to fight these diseases, estimates that mitigating this damage will require at least $28.5 billion, a sum that is unlikely to materialize...."
We know what needs to be done for TB, Malaria and even HIV......we don't know COVID so well.
 
Maple Leaf closed the old Schneider's plant, I think. That's what I vaguely recall, anyhow. Too bad. I remember the, um, lovely odour :sick: wafting from it when I was riding out to my friend's place in Forest Heights.
Ha I owned a home in Forest Heights back in the 90s.
 
I found plastic once in meatloaf. Hard to tell if it was from a glove or something else used for sanitary purposes. Sometimes things fall into where they shouldn't.
 
So let everyone that we know how to help die then ... as we get to know COVID ... what new insanity is this!
Canadians can't control how other govts approach these things. Its the same with COVID.....we've set our own priorities on how to handle it. ( and TB, HIV)
 
Ha I owned a home in Forest Heights back in the 90s.

My friend's parents moved out there late in the eighties, not long before my "gang" started moving away from Kitchener. They used to live around the corner from me down near Eastwood Collegiate (my high school). So, yeah, I was out there a few times in the early nineties until my friend moved to Toronto to do his doctorate.
 
Maple Leaf closed the old Schneider's plant, I think. That's what I vaguely recall, anyhow. Too bad. I remember the, um, lovely odour :sick: wafting from it when I was riding out to my friend's place in Forest Heights.

That's what I thought. It's been a while.
 
Canadians can't control how other govts approach these things. Its the same with COVID.....we've set our own priorities on how to handle it.
How do you suggest covid be handled?

FIRST DO NO HARM.

Some studies suggest that for every "Covid" death there could be 29 deaths due to the lockdowns worldwide.

Famine, depression, suicide, untreated illnesses - all of these may overshadow Covid as the killer of the year.

With lockdowns of months, if not years, life largely stops, short-term and long-term consequences are entirely unknown, and billions, not just millions, of lives may be eventually at stake.

Some John P.A. Ioannidis quotes :

"I feel extremely sad that my predictions were verified. “Major consequences on the economy, society and mental health” have already occurred. I hope they are reversible, and this depends to a large extent on whether we can avoid prolonging the draconian lockdowns and manage to deal with COVID-19 in a smart, precision-risk targeted approach, rather than blindly shutting down everything. Similarly, we have already started to see the consequences of “financial crisis, unrest, and civil strife.” I hope it is not followed by “war and meltdown of the social fabric.”

“Globally, the lockdown measures have increased the number of people at risk of starvation to 1.1 billion, and they are putting at risk millions of lives, with the potential resurgence of tuberculosis, childhood diseases …, and malaria. I hope that policymakers look at the big picture of all the potential problems and not only on the very important, but relatively thin slice of evidence that is COVID-19.”

John P.A. Ioannidis is professor of medicine and professor of epidemiology and population health, as well as professor by courtesy of biomedical data science at Stanford University School of Medicine, professor by courtesy of statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS) at Stanford University.
 
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Some of Germanys provinces had their schools started . Some with recommended wearing of masks and some with mandatory masks.After one week, the first two schools are already closed- one teacher in one school and one student in the other have tested positive. Parent organizations are asking for a general mandatory use of masks.
Others for testing of all students.
Summer vacation is coming to a close and people returning from hotspot countries like Turkey, can get free tests at the airport, otherwise, they would have to isolate on return. Germans are probably one of the most traveling people. But a lot of them stayed home for staycations filling the own beaches. Overall, infection rates are up.
 
FIRST DO NO HARM.


Walk softly etc. ... our present surroundings are delicate ... some say gentile ... compared to the Jude'n powers ...

Thus a transmutation! Tran sen dental chewing sensation ...
 
With lockdowns of months, if not years, life largely stops, short-term and long-term consequences are entirely unknown, and billions, not just millions, of lives may be eventually at stake.

Most places have not been locked down for awhile.

What solution do you recommend? (I saw your do no harm comment)
 
Germans are probably one of the most traveling people.
What do you think of these Germans ...
People mostly without face masks attend a demonstration with the slogan ‚The end of the pandemic - freedom day' - against coronavirus restrictions in Berlin, Germany, Saturday, Aug. 1, 2020. Posters Read: 'Stop it! Enough is enough'.

Most places have not been locked down for awhile.

Guess it all depends what you call a lockdown.
 
Julian of Norwich in Ur cell? From there wisdom was distributed!

Like anointed oil from nutcase ... olive or other similar planted source!
 
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