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Mendalla said:
How do you know @You just never know has no Scottish ancestry? Bette is English, we know that, but I have no idea of his background. My brother did a genetic trace and we may actually be more Irish and Scottish than our family tree indicates. I know of only 1 Scot in my direct line (a great-grandmother on my mother's side) but apparently if you go back further, there may be a legitimate reason I actually like bagpipes and Irish tenors.
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It's obvious by the non-Scottish way in which he posts.
 
Jae said:
Uh... nope.
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Obviously you missed my earlier comment...while it was joking, it is true...anyone who is Scottish is actually Irish as they are descended from the Irish who crossed the sea - there may be a bit of Pict and Viking but with the intermarriage the predominant genetics are Irish.
 
BethAnne said:
Obviously you missed my earlier comment...while it was joking, it is true...anyone who is Scottish is actually Irish as they are descended from the Irish who crossed the sea - there may be a bit of Pict and Viking but with the intermarriage the predominant genetics are Irish.
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Source of information please.
 
A university course on the history of the Vikings by professor Kenneth Harl (saw the DVD of it)...unfortunately I don't have the reading list any more.
 
BethAnne said:
A university course on the history of the Vikings by professor Kenneth Harl (saw the DVD of it)...unfortunately I don't have the reading list any more.
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Actually, it is much more nuanced and the current view is that there was no Irish invasion of Argyll. The Scottish education ministry's history site:

http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/britonsgaelsvikings/dalriata/index.asp

The Gaels of Dál Riata and Ireland lived in different types of house; they wore different styles of brooch and dress pin; they carved different stone monuments. The archaeological evidence does not support the origin tales. It is now thought that the Gaels of Argyll, the Dál Riatans, were a native population who shared a common language with the peoples of Ireland a few miles over the sea. The Gaels of Dál Riata were probably the descendants of the Bronze Age cairn builders of Kilmartin Glen.
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So, no, the whole "Scots are Irish" thing doesn't really stand up anymore though it was the common theory for a long time.

You are correct, though, that modern Scots are a mix of Gaelic, Pictish, and Norse ancestry.
 
Mendalla said:
Actually, it is much more nuanced and the current view is that there was no Irish invasion of Argyll. The Scottish education ministry's history site:

http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/britonsgaelsvikings/dalriata/index.asp



So, no, the whole "Scots are Irish" thing doesn't really stand up anymore though it was the common theory for a long time.

You are correct, though, that modern Scots are a mix of Gaelic, Pictish, and Norse ancestry.
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Okay, so ALL can't say that, but a few still can - my ancestors and many of my Scottish friends are descended from Irish who settled in Scotland.
 
BethAnne said:
Okay, so ALL can't say that, but a few still can - my ancestors and many of my Scottish friends are descended from Irish who settled in Scotland.
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Yes, there were later migrations in both directions (the Northern Ireland Protestants are mostly descended from transplanted Scots).
 
I'm basically all UK (Scots-English-Welsh) with a tiny dribble of French thanks to a great-great grandmother somewhere. I prefer to just think of myself as Canadian, though.
 
"mary(deciding in her heart): here I am, the Lord’s humble servAnt. aS you have said, leT it be done to me" - luke 1:38a (voice).
 
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