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Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
I don’t get your point. Architects are paid for what they produce too.

If you have three employees doing the same task and one produces $100, one produces $50, and one produces $10 in income for your business - does it make sense to pay them all $15?
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Does it make sense to refer to someone sweeping the floors as "mindless" therefore justifying a wage that doesn't support a more decent living? Essential may be the key word.

Does it make sense that your commission rate causes your fee to go up, even though it was nothing to do with increasing your skill , but the market that increased the price of housing thus increasing the amount of money you pocket?
 
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And again this is not how a free market works.
As well I am self employed with no employees so I do my own mindless work. While I do it I listen to books or sermons or news. Fake news if I’m in a humourous mood. It was not meant as an insult. Is unskilled less of an insult?

Anyway, in a free market, there is always pressure to do things faster cheaper better. Your pay never magically goes up, unless there is only one of you and many people need your services.

In the case of my three above employees:

If they all get paid $15, I am exploiting my best worker and the worst one is exploiting me. So what happens is my best worker goes to my customer and says he will be happy at $30.

I have lost my best worker and now I can only sell at the new rate of $30 with one employee that now only makes me $5 and the other who forced me out of business because there is no profit.

That is why people are paid in accordance with their value.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
And again this is not how a free market works.
As well I am self employed with no employees so I do my own mindless work. While I do it I listen to books or sermons or news. Fake news if I’m in a humourous mood. It was not meant as an insult. Is unskilled less of an insult?

Anyway, in a free market, there is always pressure to do things faster cheaper better. Your pay never magically goes up, unless there is only one of you and many people need your services.

In the case of my three above employees:

If they all get paid $15, I am exploiting my best worker and the worst one is exploiting me. So what happens is my best worker goes to my customer and says he will be happy at $30.

I have lost my best worker and now I can only sell at the new rate of $30 with one employee that now only makes me $5 and the other who forced me out of business because there is no profit.

That is why people are paid in accordance with their value.
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good explanation

in relatex news i heard another euphamism for capitalism: forced altruism
help people or starve lol
 
Inannawhimsey said:
good explanation

in relatex news i heard another euphamism for capitalism: forced altruism
help people or starve lol
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More on the horse race ... secretary of supporting naught but HS? I got that flavour of the governing power from The Post !

The lesser powers ... they are beyond (para) yetitocome ...
 
Back to the Patrick Brown issue.

I note that now - according to CTV News - the younger of the two who made accusations against Brown - the media reports made it sound like she was a teenager in high school - acknowledges that she was of legal drinking age (which means at least 19) and that she was not in high school when the incident occurred.

This was the woman who says that Brown took her to his second floor bedroom (and there's been plenty of evidence - including from realtors who know the property - from people who've said that the place Brown lived at the time of the incident had no second floor bedroom) dropped his pants and asked her to perform oral sex, which she says she did until she decided she didn't want to and told him and he let her stop and leave. Again, guys have been having "no means no" drilled into their heads for years, and in both of these cases - even according to the women - Patrick Brown seems to have honoured "no means no."

I still have major issues with Brown's judgement over the other incident, but this one seems to me to be starting to fall apart a little bit, and I have to say that as time goes on I'm feeling more and more sympathy for Patrick Brown.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there are some interesting links with the other case (the woman Brown first met on an airplane, which has always been the one that seemed to get more attention.) She apparently knew the CTV reporter who broke the story. The CTV reporter works for the same network that Ben Mulroney works for. Ben Mulroney is the brother of Caroline Mulroney. Caroline Mulroney is now one of the leading contenders for the leadership of the Ontario PC Party and because of that is potentially the next premier of Ontario. Which would give CTV an interesting "in" with the Ontario Premier's office.

I just note those connections. Real conspiracy theorists would have a field day with them.

At the very least I think Brown is starting to have lots of grounds for a big time defamation lawsuit.
 
revsdd said:
Back to the Patrick Brown issue.

At the very least I think Brown is starting to have lots of grounds for a big time defamation lawsuit.
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We'll know better when he gets around to actually initiating one.
 
I've sort of wondered a couple of times about how FAST the party abandoned Brown. Almost as if it was planned.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I've sort of wondered a couple of times about how FAST the party abandoned Brown. Almost as if it was planned.
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Interesting that there's a poll from a group called "Campaign Research" that shows the PC Party doing better under any of Ford, Elliott or Mulroney than it would have under Brown. This organization has significant Conservative connections. Its senior leadership team includes Richard Ciano - a former Vice President of the Conservative Party of Canada and former President of the Ontario PC Party, and Nick Kouvalis - who has worked for the BC Liberal Party (which in BC is really the "conservative" - ie, anti-NDP - party), who managed Rob Ford's mayoralty campaign and later worked for Rob as chief of staff and who also chaired Kellie Leitch's federal leadership campaign.

Oh my - a conspiracy theorist could have fun with all this. Yes, indeed.
 
revsdd said:
Interesting that there's a poll from a group called "Campaign Research" that shows the PC Party doing better under any of Ford, Elliott or Mulroney than it would have under Brown. This organization has significant Conservative connections. Its senior leadership team includes Richard Ciano - a former Vice President of the Conservative Party of Canada and former President of the Ontario PC Party, and Nick Kouvalis - who has worked for the BC Liberal Party (which in BC is really the "conservative" - ie, anti-NDP - party), who managed Rob Ford's mayoralty campaign and later worked for Rob as chief of staff and who also chaired Kellie Leitch's federal leadership campaign.

Oh my - a conspiracy theorist could have fun with all this. Yes, indeed.
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Life is so strange ... it has to strike you as funny even as a serious theologian!
 
I got a Doug Ford robocall last night asking for my support. I didn't press 3. I just stayed on the line to tie up their phone system as long as possible.

Among the things Doug has chosen to oppose, in the robocall and his press conferences, is the sex ed curriculum. He's going for the same religious nutcase vote that Brown got. If he takes that line, and the other candidates don't and split their vote, he could conceivably win the nomination. Then would he pull a Brown and walk it back?

Brown had his internal critics. I could see him pushed out. The problem with conspiracy theorists is that most of them are conservative supporters and they would rather trade conspiracies about other parties.
 
chansen said:
I got a Doug Ford robocall last night asking for my support. I didn't press 3. I just stayed on the line to tie up their phone system as long as possible.

Among the things Doug has chosen to oppose, in the robocall and his press conferences, is the sex ed curriculum. He's going for the same religious nutcase vote that Brown got. If he takes that line, and the other candidates don't and split their vote, he could conceivably win the nomination. Then would he pull a Brown and walk it back?

Brown had his internal critics. I could see him pushed out. The problem with conspiracy theorists is that most of them are conservative supporters and they would rather trade conspiracies about other parties.
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And they put forth the BS that I'm crazy? Just look at how the higher ups take off with corruption!
 
If we didn't know about sex ... would abuse charges be obsolete and unlearned about ... that could be a turn towards the grand narrative of greatest passions ... knowing nothing atoll that island of political concerns ...

Some fancy irregular words must be familiar tho' to find your way around in that dark process ... polity anthropomorphised ...

Put a face on it like Caduceus and your off ... duality to be untangled by the Mob!
 
What would we do without enigmas to crack ... and toile with? Of course w/o interests one could rest as soul-dead ... mentally blasted?

Thus great formless voids ... something to get into to find the parts gone by ... coming right atcha they have blue shift ... retreating red shifts ... thus the coming and going of stars ... sometimes portrayed in the wildest myths ...

You must do this in dark places ... for if the authorities get light of it you could be drawn and quartered by the 4 horsemen and gutted for treason ... heresy causes only loss of head --- I learned this in reading Tomas Amoors letters ...

Merlin had a deep cellar ... some rumors had it on the Isle of Mann connected to Ireland by the Devils Causeway (actually a geological form of stones; hexagonal in form ... hexed)? Thus the deep Marae term for the conception of sub-consciousness ... a psychically blown incident. Evidence is all about us ...
 
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No more fun than taur of ette's tour ... with some power a bull may be expected! Perhaps the Pope will issue one ...
 
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