I don't vaccinate my child because it's my right to determine which diseases come back

[revsdd]

I'm usually always in favour of humour, but I'm actually not sure I'd appreciate a health care professional making a joke about a medical condition that I had. Something there strikes me as unprofessional. And, yes, we all have bad days, so if such a thing happened I'd try to respond with grace.

 

[revjohn]

page content of the original link, for some reason or another, has been removed

One reason might be better than another. I wonder if it has anything to do with who CoMeD is and the allegations made against them.?

Still, the fact that the two doctors on the board have no certification in epidemiology probably doesn't mean anything right?

Experience suggests that when articles are revoked, particularly articles claiming a link between MMR vaccines and Autism it is because the articles are bunk.

 

[chansen]

I'm usually always in favour of humour, but I'm actually not sure I'd appreciate a health care professional making a joke about a medical condition that I had. Something there strikes me as unprofessional. And, yes, we all have bad days, so if such a thing happened I'd try to respond with grace.

So it fell flat. It happens. Jokes that bomb are hardly the worst things in the world.

 

[chansen]

Not always. I have occasionally complemented you on a thread (and you complemented me ONCE). But yes, I do find your comments are often intentionally hurtful.

I'm not intentionally stingy with my compliments. Try doing something new to warrant one.

 

[Seeler]

I'm not intentionally stingy with my compliments. Try doing something new to warrant one.

I couldn't be bothered trying to impress someone who thinks joking at the expense of the handicapped is funny.

 

[chansen]

I don't even know where to begin with that one. Enjoy your dreams about how terrible I am.

 

[chansen]

Back to the subject at hand, this FB update from a pediatrician is making the rounds:

 

[chansen]

‘Get your kids vaccinated,’ Obama tells parents doubting ‘indisputable’ science

Now, is this going to help or hurt? With all the GOP conspiracies surrounding Obama, is this going to lead Tea Partyists to flock toward anti-vaxxers in a vortex of stupid?

 

[BetteTheRed]

A vortex of stupid. That is a keeper.

 

[Waterfall]

Re: the doctor who refuses care: Sounds like a good episode for Seinfeld, "The Nazi Pediatrician".

Don't worry Doc, the nurses will take care of anyone you turn away....we did it will SARS, EBOLA, etc.......

 

[chansen]

SARS and Ebola were/are emergencies, and we kept patients who exhibited signs of either out of waiting rooms.

This is about parents who neglect their own kids, and in the process, endanger other kids on chemo. Because their precious flower is more, and yet, somehow less important that everyone else's kid.

What does the pediatrician say to the parents of the kids on chemo? "Don't let her touch anything, some anti-vaxxers have been through the office lately?" f*** that. Send them away. Tell them to get another doctor.

 

[Justme]

saw a good tweet today - Christie in the US (he's a politician) is advocating for the quarantine of people coming from Ebola-infected countries but is against compulsory vaccination...

 

[revsdd]

‘Get your kids vaccinated,’ Obama tells parents doubting ‘indisputable’ science

Now, is this going to help or hurt? With all the GOP conspiracies surrounding Obama, is this going to lead Tea Partyists to flock toward anti-vaxxers in a vortex of stupid?

Those who dispute the science around vaccines are most likely also those who are convinced that Obama is a Muslim communist who was born in Kenya.

 

[chansen]

Actually, there are a lot of granola eaters who freak out about vaccines as well. It's not just the preppers.

 

[Justme]

http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/d...ry-2nd-measles-disneyland?mbid=social_twitter

 

[chansen]

saw a good tweet today - Christie in the US (he's a politician) is advocating for the quarantine of people coming from Ebola-infected countries but is against compulsory vaccination...

Christie is now backtracking on the "balanced approach" line he used for parental choice when it comes to vaccines.

Potential GOP nominees are in a bit of a quandary. Do they do the right thing and join Obama in urging their citizens to get vaccinated, possibly alienating the base by joining with Obama over any topic? Or do they try the "parental choice" route, and completely screw themselves in any potential general election, because enough moderates and independents see that as positively stupid?

It is getting to the point that, in order to secure the Republican presidential nomination, you have to sound so pathetically ignorant that you have no hope in the general election. Romney tried to "reboot" himself to his more moderate positions pre-primaries, but they stuck to him.

I think you'll see most of them just shut up about vaccines and not answer the question. They can not win by commenting. Reporters know that, so they'll keep asking. I expect some very inventive non-answers in the near future.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

My friend, a midwife, is against the chicken pox vaccine in kids, because we are getting less exposed to children with chicken pox and that is causing our immune systems to weaken to it over time (initial illness causes a surge in immunity then it declines) - chicken pox is a herpes virus that exists in the body forever incubating in the CNS (unlike flu strains that leave the body) after having chicken pox- so the dormant virus in our bodies will reactivate over time if we're not getting 'mini-boosters' through exposure, causing more shingles in adults. She's not all nuts and granola. Just talking to her right now about it.

 

[chansen]

My friend, a midwife, is against the chicken pox vaccine in kids, because we are getting less exposed to children with chicken pox and that is causing our immune systems to weaken to it over time (initial illness causes a surge in immunity then it declines) - chicken pod is a herpes virus that exists in the body forever after having chicken pox- so the dormant virus in our bodies will reactivate over time if we're not getting 'mini-boosters' through exposure, causing more shingles in adults. She's not all nuts and granola.

Chickenpox vaccines contain weakened live VZV, which may cause latent (dormant) infection. The vaccine-strain VZV can reactivate later in life and cause shingles. However, the risk of getting shingles from vaccine-strain VZV after chickenpox vaccination is much lower than getting shingles after natural infection with wild-type VZV.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/varicella/

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I don't know if I believe that the risk is lower with the vaccine. I think it is very strange that people like my half brother got shingles in his late 20s when it is usually people much older - but that makes sense if my friend's pov is correct.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I think her point is that the vaccine in kids in the last while is increasing the risk of shingles in the rest of us who got chicken pox naturally (or didn't get it at all).