You just confirmed what I’m saying which is that people who can’t or don’t have as much knowledge and articulate for themselves as well, are f***ed. I stand with them. There are many people at risk and it’s not ok.
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You just confirmed what I’m saying which is that people who can’t or don’t have as much knowledge and articulate for themselves as well, are f***ed. I stand with them. There are many people at risk and it’s not ok.
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Code for "privileged Boomer". It's still being dismissive of any experience that doesn't match exactly with yours.
I wasn’t even thinking boomer. What I was thinking is that you are in the majority still, for getting good care vs being exploited but the latter can’t be dismissed. And yes that involves privilege including good communication skills and will. It shouldn’t need to. People will die who don’t need to die.
Why isn’t it removed yet?
The MP’s have been spoken to and spoken to. Even through a series of Parliamentary hearings and by representatives of large disability organizations. Clearly they didn’t care. The UN reports have been in the news. I have no faith anymore in their ability to do anything unless the mainstream rises up and does something loud. Which WC2 seems to be an accurate cross section of, but I don’t believe, from what I see, that mainstream voters will move from theoretical discussion to action until until many die needlessly - or perhaps “they come for” them too - and they find themselves on the wrong side of history, unfortunately. Like Trump voters, when they had the opportunity to do something, they f***ed it up more than once.
@BetteTheRed nobody is starting any process of undoing track 1. Track 2 is clearly the priority being fought but there are concerns about how Track 1 is being interpreted and exploited that shouldn’t be brushed under the carpet. There were problems with MAiD policy before Track 2 existed. The UN wrote about them too. Also, Track 2 cases - disabled people - can turn into track 1 cases faster anyway if appropriate care and supports don’t happen.
@BetteTheRed nobody is starting any process of undoing track 1. Track 2 is clearly the priority being fought but there are concerns about how Track 1 is being interpreted and exploited that shouldn’t be brushed under the carpet. There were problems with MAiD policy before Track 2 existed. The UN wrote about them too. Also, Track 2 cases - disabled people - can turn into track 1 cases faster anyway if appropriate care and supports don’t happen.
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chansen
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It's only been 5 hours. It's 1am in Ontario. It shouldn't be removed.
There's three answers. Take your pick.
I asked for it to be removed because the organization that published it doesn’t represent my views - you brought it to my attention within an hour of me posting it - and therefore it should be removed. Unless you’re just being a you know what and playing “you smelt it you dealt it” level games.
I thought they were here earlier when I made that mistake and asked for it to be removed. I think they were online, here, on other threads. But if they weren’t I hope it’s removed soon.
lol well they’re here most of the time that I’m here. Maybe more. Except now. I just edited out some sarcasm (that was both self deprecating and inclusive) before the time ran out. Phew.
It’s the middle of the night in Ontario so hopefully they’ll have a minute, assuming one of them will check in, tomorrow.
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It’s been rarely inaccurate and people can see that now, I know you can. Overall, I’ve been quite accurate about the MAiD trajectory. And I’ve self corrected my inaccuracies as best I can.
What I’m saying is I want everyone to have the same care and choices you have in the healthcare system and that’s not the case for increasingly more people. And I’m not bludgeoning anyone with information as much as I am being a broken record. I put the information out there - usually from acceptable sources - so people can see “this is really happening” because to be frank, people are asleep on this topic, have always been, and the news is slow to report on it. When they do it gets quick mention before they move on. And so I try keep the ball in the air with some mainstream folks (sorry if you don’t like that characterization but I think it’s socioeconomically and politically true) who I’ve known for awhile who have followed this topic with me, who know in retrospect that most of these concerns turned out to be valid - in hopes that you will not turn away from it and your social connections and word of mouth can make a small difference. It’s better than nothing. Everywhere concerns get talked about, work is being done. And hopefully all the combined efforts move the needle a bit.
It’s one strategy, while getting it in the news is another. I tried but I don’t have the clout (doesn’t mean I’m not intelligent but I don’t have clout, like many disabled people who get dismissed. Our lives matter anyway. Try having ADHD with the added pressure of communicating like you don’t) - even disabled people and their representatives with clout and PhD’s and honours have trouble getting the facts and stats about problems with MAiD policy into the mainstream news - and people have since, after being persistent and having some clout, covered most of what I wanted to say anyway. The mainstream public gave it their 5 minutes, maybe. That’s hardly my fault. If I’m not communicating it the way that’s most comfortable for everyone and that is a deterrent for people here from caring about many thousands of lives - I really don’t think the problem is with me.
Also, be aware that some of these concerns written about in articles could be very accurate (and some might not be) if you fact check them, end up in places I don’t think are wise to publish them at, out of desperation to get information out there. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not true so just be aware of that and fact check where they’re getting their info from before dismissing it, if you can. It should be getting more mainstream traction but never has.
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My personal opinion, which I haven’t discussed with anyone else recently and haven’t seen it anywhere for years - is that Track 1 with good safeguards is the only “healthcare” that should be privatized. Income test it in the opposite direction that marginalized people always get income tested - and make those who have assets over the poverty line pay for it on a sliding scale so that the “duty to die” doesn’t keep falling on poor people. That would be a safeguard - make people who want to check out months or years early pay a tidy sum for it and put a decent set portion of that money back into health, palliative and hospice, and social services and housing. And for people who don’t have money to pay for it, make sure that all the other choices exist and are being tried. Public health shouldn’t be touching MAiD. Not only is it dangerous at this juncture for it to be available in nearly all hospitals as a “choice” that leaves people vulnerable to coercion, it’s not healthcare. It’s not even “end of life care” unless a person is literally at the very end, pain is uncontrollable, and they are about to die (with few exceptions). That’s what it was initially about. Removing the criminal charge for doctors who overdose patients as they’re actively acutely dying and begging to be let go. The common argument was that it wasn’t fair in those cases for doctors to face murder charges and I agree with that specific argument. But MAiD means literally killing people and that’s not medicine’s job. It’s not healthcare. That’s my personal opinion. MAiD is not about health it’s about death. Privatizing Track 1 MAiD could level the playing field.
And still eliminate Track 2 altogether.
And still eliminate Track 2 altogether.
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Have an actual Ministry of Death that oversees the contracting out to private companies. Separate it from the Ministry of Health completely. Call it what it is and maybe that will raise eyebrows and initiate better changes. The sociopaths in the field will be exposed - and if people are still okay with that there will be little doubt about what kind of society we’ve become. Make people argue about how tax dollars are being wasted on death and the people who provide death to those who are poor, instead arguing about providing what they need to live.
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Deleted. Second thoughts about another idea I proposed.
Multimillionaires complaining about the out of pocket cost of MAiD, and it subsequently funding the social determinants of health, is an interesting thought.
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The only thing missing is the common sense that there cannot be a lot of intelligence when the topic is separated by the insertion of excess emotional content!
It is said by some people of reflection that joining emotional-intelligence is a rough job ... as a medium if fails notice! Thus that blind spot that appears as a black smear ... knows height ... some say paranoid shite! It is something that should be heard ... alas few will hear of much ... it is uncomfortable to learn of these stray thoughts ... scattered eh?
It is said by some people of reflection that joining emotional-intelligence is a rough job ... as a medium if fails notice! Thus that blind spot that appears as a black smear ... knows height ... some say paranoid shite! It is something that should be heard ... alas few will hear of much ... it is uncomfortable to learn of these stray thoughts ... scattered eh?
Am I the one separating with emotional content or getting emotional because my intellectual content has been separated by others’ emotional content?
It’s an emotional topic. Hard to stay totally intellectual, for those on any side of it, I suppose.
In a confused world we are all in chaos because some brute believes that processing intelligence is bad for his business.
On our visit to Sir W. Van Horne's Island in NB yesterday ... were told that he only slept 4-5 hours a night and believed rest was bad for business ...
Does create a desperate separation of "one" from the rest ... ones known as gods! Slick word play if you got it ... enter the viper ... the very toxin of now rest eventually comes into play ... some say a potion! Thus we slave at life ... alien addiction???
Did you know there is actually literature that states that word is god and many powers would like it silenced ... as a vanity? Dire Goothe ... it is dark!
Other's declared it aft Leiter mouse ... critical: "know your words"! Parallel to knowing's elves ... as essence of something that just isn't ... because of departure of conscience ... a form of consciousness? Rarely observed because of shading ... the slate must be blanked ... otherwise thou may be haunted ... by scattered developments requiring rest!
Odd evolutions in time ... dt's! May be the norm and we don't know that ... thus some are said to know nothing. I'll claim a part ... being nothing is the Job ... right in the midst of paramedic frustrations ... no end of the ill informed ... about things we wouldn't believe ... regardless (without the item). Regard ease?
Alien gardens ... deep des p sisal ... penetrating as a stab of mind ...
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My sleep is all turned around because of the heat, hot flashes, and I can’t shut my brain off. It’s okay I don’t have to go out in it today so I can rest in the day…when I’m flat out tired I’ll doze off again. Productivity is overrated (actually it really is. Especially when it serves our current system. The usefulness principle being relevant to this discussion.) That said, apparently my efforts here are useless.
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The MacDonald Laurier Institute will love that.