Euthanasia in Canada, Supreme Court Ruled this Morning

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Waterfall said:
What I would like to see in this discussion is more talk about the checks and boundaries needed to provide a full scope for application because there is definitely a chance this could be abused. What does everyone think should be considered?
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Making sure there's a clause that states that a person's right to live equally in society with necessary supports is no less important than anyone's right to die.
 
Seeler I have a question for you. At what point in your Parkinsons would you want your family to agree to your request for euthanasia? I ask this because as I watch some progressive diseases, the bar is often moved because they do adapt to their new reality sometimes....not always but sometimes.
 
Kimmio said:
Making sure a clause that states that a person's right to live equally in society with necessary supports is no less important than anyone's right to die.
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This sounds very vague IMO. Planning ahead requires specific instructions. How would your instructions read?
 
Waterfall said:
This sounds very vague IMO. Planning ahead requires specific instructions. How would your instructions read?
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"if patient's socioeconomic status is at or below poverty level the attending physician must consider this prior to a request for this 'service' and a full assessment by a registered social worker for help with supports must be provided, which could alter this serious decision and must be considered with the knowledge that the primary obligation to Human Rights for Person's with disabilities is their right to dignity and social and economic inclusion and is in keeping with the Hippocratic Oathe to do no harm.. Let it be understood that people with disabilities are a historically disadvantaged demographic and lack of social and economic mobility are key determinants of mental and physical health, therefore successful efforts to provide such supports is paramount prior to any end of life decisions that do not involve terminal illness."
 
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Kimmio said:
"if patient's socioeconomic status is at or below poverty level the attending physician must consider this prior to a request for this 'service' and a full assessment by a registered social worker for help with supports must be provided, which could alter this serious decision and must be considered with the knowledge that the primary obligation to Human Rights for Person's with disabilities is their right to dignity and social and economic inclusion and is in keeping with the Hippocratic Oathe to do no harm.. Let it be understood that people with disabilities are a historically disadvantaged demographic and lack of social and economic mobility are key determinants of mental and physical health, therefore successful efforts to provide such supports is paramount prior to any end of life decisions that do not involve terminal illness."
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Where is this copied from? Important to acknowledge sources please.
 
Hi Pontifex Geronimo13

Great Video ---Could this happen -- nothing is impossible -----after all Doctors are human ------
 
Consider hypo and hyper in Rev Kings allusion to subconscious thinking that you would like you neighbors thoughts to die or fade away ... as his wisdom may interfere in undermining your desires ... isn't that a Pisce OFF to Desiderata .. which may be interpreted as des ID E'Rata 'n on them who do just as they please without 2 Q'loos.

One is under theis kin and the other beyond the skin ... dependent on the spot your in considering your incarnate need ... that may not be as it appears! UR in nation is a fertile expression of simple amino acids ... and is found early in the Bible as River Piscon ... perhaps an irrelevant term in comparison to human desires beyond the wisdom of heaven ... a po' state of mind?

Much understanding may be relevant to your understanding of the evolution of word at man's authority to redact ...

Yet some are determined that the word is fixed unmovable ... I am fixed at understanding it's wit ability ... it can be tres vite ... and cut a soul down a mite ... although the bode need not be cognizant!
 
Kimmio said:
I wrote it myself. Waterfall asked "what would your instructions be?"
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Seems like a political statement rather than a directive to family, POA or physicians. So in such a situation as per the court ruling, you've already been diagnosed with an incurable illness ... but you want the doctor to determine if you're living at or below the poverty line and ask a social worker to explore social options?
 
This thread is troubling. I see Kimmio justly concerned about the persons with disability, especially those who at economically disadvantaged. Yes, we need to listen to their concerns and assist them in every way possible so that they can live full rich lives, including making choices for themselves.

What I fail to understand is how denying people the right to make choices for themselves is going to accomplish her goals.
 
Seeler said:
This thread is troubling. I see Kimmio justly concerned about the persons with disability, especially those who at economically disadvantaged. Yes, we need to listen to their concerns and assist them in every way possible so that they can live full rich lives, including making choices for themselves.

What I fail to understand is how denying people the right to make choices for themselves is going to accomplish her goals.
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I am saying there is serious potential for people with disabilities to be exploited (to death?) if the legislation is not explicitly clear ...and that's what all the disability rights groups are concerned about. We can't be too quick to dismiss history.
 
Would this support a concept of open heart and open mind in a world where walls are easily built ...
This could be different ... but would we change as a social order?

Any bets on the chance of a stone wall shifting ...?
 
One is best to be off in an alien myst ... so the non-thinking extremes won't line you up in the medium between the-M and the non-louvres ... not a slot for the fish to escape! Thus the medes were shot down ... it is an old story about getting caught in the middle ... best to be an outlier ... but how to get there ... without one way out?
 
Abstracts are not allowed ... just too odd as compared to institutionally prescribed fears! so we are denied creation and original conceptions.
 
Carolla said:
Seems like a political statement rather than a directive to family, POA or physicians. So in such a situation as per the court ruling, you've already been diagnosed with an incurable illness ... but you want the doctor to determine if you're living at or below the poverty line and ask a social worker to explore social options?
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Yep.
 
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