Conspiracies, What Are They ?

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I don't discuss it because I have read information on it and do not believe the conspiracies. I haven't read many of the articles you've posted because I don't value your "expertise". We've had some interesting discussions at times. At other times you have contradicted yourself and seem to only post information to provoke. I don't mean provoke thought for the record. I have tried to understand your perspective. It's hard when you dismiss anything that doesn't fit in your world view. It seems that if we don't conform to your world view lock, stock and barrel, we're brainwashed. You don't like when I dismiss what you write and cry that you are being mocked even when you're not, yet you are quick to mock and insult. So be it. I don't wish to live in a paranoid state over things which I can't control or influence. I'll discuss and question elsewhere.
 
Northwind said:
I don't discuss it because I have read information on it and do not believe the conspiracies. I haven't read many of the articles you've posted because I don't value your "expertise". We've had some interesting discussions at times. At other times you have contradicted yourself and seem to only post information to provoke. I don't mean provoke thought for the record. I have tried to understand your perspective. It's hard when you dismiss anything that doesn't fit in your world view. It seems that if we don't conform to your world view lock, stock and barrel, we're brainwashed. You don't like when I dismiss what you write and cry that you are being mocked even when you're not, yet you are quick to mock and insult. So be it. I don't wish to live in a paranoid state over things which I can't control or influence. I'll discuss and question elsewhere.
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I have no expertise other than my own experience. I speak for myself according to my understanding of the varied perspective worldviews out there.
You twist my words to suit your narrative. I am not crying about being mocked and I am not at all paranoid about things I can't control or influence.
I am interested in the key 'influencers' and how much power they have to 'control' the 'official narrative'. You are not. Relegating everything that you are not interested in discussing as conspiracy theory or fake news is a cop out. By all means discuss and question elsewhere ... where everyone that does not agree with the status quo will be delegated to the 'conspiracy theory' thread anyway.
 
@Northwind ... once again I will ask a simple question of you before you go ... do you support enforced mandatory vaccination on the unwilling or uniformed.
 
  1. How likely is the [idea/conspiracy theory] that the government has performed mind‐control experiments on its own citizens without their consent?
  2. How likely is the [idea/conspiracy theory] that government agencies have recruited journalists into a secret propaganda network in order to influence the media?
  3. How likely is the [idea/conspiracy theory] that government agencies have illegally used surveillance, infiltration, and wrongful imprisonment in order to discredit domestic political groups that they considered potentially threatening?
  4. How likely is the [idea/conspiracy theory] that the IRS and other agencies have been used by presidential administrations to harass political rivals?
  5. How likely is the [idea/conspiracy theory] that federal government officials have taken bribes from industry leaders in exchange for favorable government contracts?

Abstract

“Conspiracy theory” is widely acknowledged to be a loaded term. Politicians use it to mock and dismiss allegations against them, while philosophers and political scientists warn that it could be used as a rhetorical weapon to pathologize dissent. In two empirical studies conducted on Amazon Mechanical Turk, I present an initial examination of whether this concern is justified. In Experiment 1, 150 participants judged a list of historical and speculative theories to be no less likely when they were labeled “conspiracy theories” than when they were labeled “ideas.” In Experiment 2 (N = 802), participants who read a news article about fictitious “corruption allegations” endorsed those allegations no more than participants who saw them labeled “conspiracy theories.” The lack of an effect of the conspiracy‐theory label in both experiments was unexpected and may be due to a romanticized image of conspiracy theories in popular media or a dilution of the term to include mundane speculation regarding corruption and political intrigue.

Some Dare Call It Conspiracy: Labeling Something a Conspiracy Theory

Michael J. Wood

First published: 06 August 2015

https://doi.org/10.1111/pops.12285
Citations: 14
 
Ritafee said:
I have no expertise other than my own experience. I speak for myself according to my understanding of the varied perspective worldviews out there.
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As do I.

Ritafee said:
You twist my words to suit your narrative. I am not crying about being mocked and I am not at all paranoid about things I can't control or influence.
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Okay. Please stop twisting my words.

Ritafee said:
I am interested in the key 'influencers' and how much power they have to 'control' the 'official narrative'. You are not.
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You know this how? Just because I'm not particularly interested in a lot of what you post does not mean I am unconcerned.

Ritafee said:
Relegating everything that you are not interested in discussing as conspiracy theory or fake news is a cop out.
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Not everything. You are making a broad pronouncement and are generalizing.

Ritafee said:
By all means discuss and question elsewhere ... where everyone that does not agree with the status quo will be delegated to the 'conspiracy theory' thread anyway.
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Again, my lack of interest in discussing with you is not enough evidence to say I agree with the status quo.

Ritafee said:
@Northwind ... once again I will ask a simple question of you before you go ... do you support enforced mandatory vaccination on the unwilling or uniformed.
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I believe I have answered that.

a) I'm not sure that is as likely as you would suggest. I do not believe Bill Gates is part of a nephareous plot.

b) there are very few places where mandated vaccines would be required. I prefer strongly recommended under certain circumstances, ie travel vaccines. Education is always better than legislation.

Have I answered to your satisfaction?
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
They could say, you don't have to get it, but if you don't you can't travel.
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That may be the case right now. I don't know the specifics. I know we needed to get vaccines when we went to the Caribbean and possibly Europe. I don't remember of that was mandatory or strongly recommended. One for the Caribbean was malaria. Since in balance, the vaccine is preferable to getting sick with malaria, we chose the vaccine.
 
I assumed that was the case when visiting countries with illnesses we don't really have here, that there are vaccines for - so as to protect travellers, and not to bring those diseases back home with them.
 
Northwind said:
Since in balance, the vaccine is preferable to getting sick with malaria, we chose the vaccine.
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You should let the Mayo Clinic know about that because according to them ...

Scientists around the world are trying to develop a safe and effective vaccine for malaria.

As of yet, however, there is still no malaria vaccine approved for human use.
 
Ritafee said:
Is that supposed to be funny? Vaccine injured people are a joke to you?
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No, it's not a joke and no, vaccine injuries are not funny. The fact is, they are rare. Yes, they are devastating. I don't mean to diminish their impact. I was going to post some stats and decided not to bother. You'd just shut down and mock my opinion as you just did with this comment.
 
Omg, this is in my old neighbourhood. Been at that Starbucks a zillion times. Something made me feel like this was extra fishy business, at this time in human history...some intentionally politically divisive provocateurs, perhaps?

bc.ctvnews.ca

Homophobic street preachers ousted by West End residents

A small group of self-proclaimed street preachers prompted a backlash from residents of Vancouver’s West End after a series of homophobic, fundamentalist sermons over a loudspeaker in the heart of the city’s gay village.
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
@Ritafee if you stepped on a rusty nail and it injured your foot pretty deeply, would you get a tetanus shot? Or if you were bit by a rabid dog would you get a rabies shot?
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Keeping a wound clean is the best way to prevent it from getting infected.
Peroxide works very well. Chances are minimal for getting Tetanus.
In such a rare event I would get the anti-toxin serum shot (which doesn’t have the harmful effects of the vaccine).
Same for rabies ... if in the very unlikely event that I am bitten by a rabid animal I would get a shot after the event but never before.
 
Fear and hate are said to be creepy agendas ... they sneak up on real folk as a mental unconsciousness.

Look how they have accumulated and accrued in a ruag state in this world ... due to mindlessness ... consequence of strict irrationality that comes with consequential unreason!

Yet the pious stance is to still follow passionate irrationality and opinions w/o feedback. We cannot look at anything alternate in the other way ... dyslexia!

Leaves the stonewalled a bit dizzy ... thus the walls collapse ... even in mitochondrial envelopes ... exposing lipids!

Few understand genetic chemistry ... boggles my mind ... yet it is still chemistry at the smallest levels! Alchemi of aulde! Thus things are registered in depth of time as impressed in the matter thereof ... open to radiological glow! Rock of Ages ... celtic blarney? Someone was seized at the thought of relate'n!

Thus the plug in the tun ... much jpy before the outcome ... by quirk of circumstance ... God RIP's? Thus that tear into the wood ... all dis arrayed!

Stoic folk can't stand rye things ... bare truth ... thus mythology!

In the end something borrowed, something blue and something beared ... abstract at least (in the dark, as ham'd)!
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Omg, this is in my old neighbourhood. Been at that Starbucks a zillion times. Something made me feel like this was extra fishy business, at this time in human history...some intentionally politically divisive provocateurs, perhaps?

bc.ctvnews.ca

Homophobic street preachers ousted by West End residents

A small group of self-proclaimed street preachers prompted a backlash from residents of Vancouver’s West End after a series of homophobic, fundamentalist sermons over a loudspeaker in the heart of the city’s gay village.
bc.ctvnews.ca bc.ctvnews.ca
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God for your neighbourhood. This also stroke me as an opportunity for “ defunding” police- because some kind of “ mediator” might have been better in that situation than the police. However, a mediator would not have the authority that police in uniform does have. But- it looked like the community could handle it well and peacefully.
 
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