Canadian election and other political stuff

[Northwind]

How many are relieved the flood of PP ads seems to be declining? They were so ironic. A guy who dwells in back rooms walking across a field with his wife.

Ah yes the warm and fuzzy ads. What crap.

 

[Jaebius]

I would certainly prefer that my tax dollars be spent to help Trudeau's daughter travel with him, rather than spend them so Mr. Trump can play golf at his own clubs twice a week, with all the Secret Service protection going with him, in hideously expensive rented golf carts, with much of that money going into Mr. Trump's pocket.


And you have provided no evidence to the contrary.

You've made a positive truth claim, Redbaron, (that she (at 15 years of age) is there to work). The burden of proving that claim is on you

 

[Redbaron]

You've made a positive truth claim, Redbaron, (that she (at 15 years of age) is there to work). The burden of proving that claim is on you

The last line in the article visible to me says that Trudeau's daughter was travelling with him. No mention of why, or what she would be doing. No mention of where the finances were coming from. The article stops at that point; you went on to raise issues NO ONE ELSE mentioned, making the proverbial federal case out of one-- count 'em-- ONE statement on the very last line of the article.
Frankly if there is any burden of proof, it's on your shoulders. You seem to be the only one worked up about this.
Maybe you should seek out other sources to find facts to back up your claims of how much (if any) govt. money was spent. So far you have shown nothing.

 

[jimkenney12]

Our daughter in Verdun, Montreal went by two nice parks in eastern Montreal that were tent cities last week. I wished Trudeau who represents a riding in Montreal would visit one of those encampments and have real conversations with some of the people there. It might help him really understand how terrible the housing situation is across Canada and do something substantial about it.

 

[BetteTheRed]

To me, the issues to be addressed by federal policies leading up to next election:

i) housing affordability; focus on "rent geared to income"
ii) climate amelioration, including doing our world share as we may be less affected than others
iii) the inclusion of dental care and pharma care into the Health Care Act
iv) all benefit payments tied to cost of living
v) completion and prioritization of the Calls to Action promised by our government vis a vis our indigenous neighbours in the TRC report.

Not terribly interested in who of his immediate family Trudeau might take on a very educational trip to a world summit. It's a pitiful day when this is the best that PP (always in my mind as PeePee) can conjure in the way of policy argument.

 

[Northwind]

i) housing affordability; focus on "rent geared to income"

This one is particularly frustrating. Any "solutions" offered by provincial or federal governments focus on building housing in a way that will continue to benefit developers. I don't see anything that will benefit renters in particular. Governments also focus on home ownership for middle class. While that is good, it's missing a large segment of the population.

The loss of social housing and expecting developers to fill in gaps has been a big part of the affordability issue.

iv) all benefit payments tied to cost of living

This is another concern. I'd be curious to see how CPP and OAS rates compare to say the 70's. How far do payments go today as opposed to the 70's or 80's? Before the neoliberal cuts started. They started. CERB payments at $2000 per month. They could do similar for seniors. Make it a unicersal program and tax back from those who don't need it. We contribute into the programs for 30 plus years. It would be nice to see a better return on investment. I do realize it's not that simple for the record.

I like your other suggestions too.

 

[Waterfall]

To me, the issues to be addressed by federal policies leading up to next election:

i) housing affordability; focus on "rent geared to income"
ii) climate amelioration, including doing our world share as we may be less affected than others
iii) the inclusion of dental care and pharma care into the Health Care Act
iv) all benefit payments tied to cost of living
v) completion and prioritization of the Calls to Action promised by our government vis a vis our indigenous neighbours in the TRC report.

Not terribly interested in who of his immediate family Trudeau might take on a very educational trip to a world summit. It's a pitiful day when this is the best that PP (always in my mind as PeePee) can conjure in the way of policy argument.

Agree, Hopefully we learned from what we watched south of the border, and politicians focus on what the needs of the average Canadians are.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Agree, Hopefully we learned from what we watched south of the border, and politicians focus on what the needs of the average Canadians are.

My godfather has begged me on a number of occasions to enter politics at some level. "Ron, my dear, there be history..."

 

[Jaebius]

The last line in the article visible to me says that Trudeau's daughter was travelling with him. No mention of why, or what she would be doing. No mention of where the finances were coming from. The article stops at that point; you went on to raise issues NO ONE ELSE mentioned, making the proverbial federal case out of one-- count 'em-- ONE statement on the very last line of the article.
Frankly if there is any burden of proof, it's on your shoulders. You seem to be the only one worked up about this.
Maybe you should seek out other sources to find facts to back up your claims of how much (if any) govt. money was spent. So far you have shown nothing.

If something's wrong, Redbaron, then it's wrong. Even if only one person on the whole planet notices. Hey, even if no one noticed.

Jesus was often enough alone in speaking out.

Did you never read the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.

My questions remain unanswered...

• if EG is in Rio working, what work does the Canadian government have the 15 year old doing?

• if EG is in Rio on vacation, is the Canadian taxpayer paying? And, if she is, how much must the taxpayer pay before it's wrong

 

[Redbaron]

Back up your allegations with some factual evidence. One line at the tail end of an article is NOT evidence.

Also, when Jesus spoke alone, he actually knew what he was talking about.

 

[jimkenney12]

Back up your allegations with some factual evidence. One line at the tail end of an article is NOT evidence.

Also, when Jesus spoke alone, he actually knew what he was talking about.

Do not bother replying to he who can believe something that makes no sense to anyone else.

 

[jimkenney12]

To me, the issues to be addressed by federal policies leading up to next election:

i) housing affordability; focus on "rent geared to income"
ii) climate amelioration, including doing our world share as we may be less affected than others
iii) the inclusion of dental care and pharma care into the Health Care Act
iv) all benefit payments tied to cost of living
v) completion and prioritization of the Calls to Action promised by our government vis a vis our indigenous neighbours in the TRC report.

Not terribly interested in who of his immediate family Trudeau might take on a very educational trip to a world summit. It's a pitiful day when this is the best that PP (always in my mind as PeePee) can conjure in the way of policy argument.

My list includes UBI in place of OAS, GST and Carbon rebates. Taxpayers should not pay a nickel towards private developers building their equity. Taxpayer money should go into public housing and non profit housing such as co-ops.

 

[Mendalla]

To me, the issues to be addressed by federal policies leading up to next election:

i) housing affordability; focus on "rent geared to income"
ii) climate amelioration, including doing our world share as we may be less affected than others
iii) the inclusion of dental care and pharma care into the Health Care Act
iv) all benefit payments tied to cost of living
v) completion and prioritization of the Calls to Action promised by our government vis a vis our indigenous neighbours in the TRC report.

Not terribly interested in who of his immediate family Trudeau might take on a very educational trip to a world summit. It's a pitiful day when this is the best that PP (always in my mind as PeePee) can conjure in the way of policy argument.

Oh come on, a campaign fought on actual issues? Slagging and making half-baked accusations against your opponent is far more fun, isn't it?

But, yeah, my platform might look something like that, too.

Maybe some other work on the Canada Health Act, recognizing that anything done there needs to be negotiated with the provinces.

Looking at new or improved trade deals to reduce our dependency on the US would probably be in there, too.

 

[Mendalla]

Taxpayer money should go into public housing and non profit housing such as co-ops.

And who is going to build it? Are you going to turn the government into an actual developer? I don't see that going well at all given the government's record on large scale projects (remember, they couldn't even pay their employees properly for a while). And even if you do, then the big construction contractors like Ellis Don are going to reap the benefits. There's no way the government is going to go into the contracting business nor should they.

To give you an idea of what that market is like, the construction market in London was so tight a few years ago due to shortages in the skilled trades and othe factors that my employer's parent company gave up on building a new complex to house them and my employer's head office due to escalating costs and uncertain timelines. They actually own land to build on behind one of their other operations, but getting someone to actually build it was going to be a challenge.

At least if the government works with developers, the developer is dealing with the contracting and eating some of that cost. That relationship needs to be more carefully managed and controlled from the government side, though, esp. with regard to conflicts of interest (e.g. developers with ties to the premier here in Ontario).

 

[Mendalla]

But, yeah, my platform might look something like that, too.

Oh, to @BetteTheRed's Canada Health Act bullet, I would add a comprehensive national program for mental health.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cmha-report-mental-health-care-1.7386745

 

[Luce NDs]

Recall that many powerful people from business, government and BS' believe there is no mental case to consider ... only their singular will ... to lose your will is unthinkable ...

 

[jimkenney12]

And who is going to build it? Are you going to turn the government into an actual developer? I don't see that going well at all given the government's record on large scale projects (remember, they couldn't even pay their employees properly for a while). And even if you do, then the big construction contractors like Ellis Don are going to reap the benefits. There's no way the government is going to go into the contracting business nor should they.

To give you an idea of what that market is like, the construction market in London was so tight a few years ago due to shortages in the skilled trades and othe factors that my employer's parent company gave up on building a new complex to house them and my employer's head office due to escalating costs and uncertain timelines. They actually own land to build on behind one of their other operations, but getting someone to actually build it was going to be a challenge.

At least if the government works with developers, the developer is dealing with the contracting and eating some of that cost. That relationship needs to be more carefully managed and controlled from the government side, though, esp. with regard to conflicts of interest (e.g. developers with ties to the premier here in Ontario).

Canada built social housing every year for decades. Smaller projects are probably better projects. Municipalities and non profits should be managing the building.

I agree that there is a shortage of materials and tradespeople. Provinces or municipalities could put an annual cap on housing permits over $500,000.

 

[Mendalla]

So Randy Boissonnault finally stepped down from Cabinet. That took too f-ing long. Between his dicey and confusing claims to indigenous ancestry and lack of clarity on whether he was still active in his business in spite of doing so being a conflict of interest, he's been a serious distraction for the Commons and a serious liability to the Liberals.

Randy Boissonnault out of cabinet amid business dealings controversy | Globalnews.ca

Randy Boissonnault is out of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s federal cabinet after months of controversy surrounding his former business.

globalnews.ca

 

[jimkenney12]

I had an interesting discussion with a Liberal supporter on Facebook. He attended the Liberal policy conference. They voted for establishing a framework for UBI. One comment that was repeated was that they needed to put this forward to give voters a reason to vote for the Liberals.

 

[Mendalla]

I had an interesting discussion with a Liberal supporter on Facebook. He attended the Liberal policy conference. They voted for establishing a framework for UBI. One comment that was repeated was that they needed to put this forward to give voters a reason to vote for the Liberals.

See, the Liberals are threatening to turn into the Democrats of Canada. Lots of good ideas coming from the floor but Trudeau and his campaign officials won't run on them. Instead, they'll fearmonger and cast aspersions on the Conservatives, thinking they can win by default. Look at how well that went for Kamala in the US.