Bible Study Thread: Luke

[unsafe]

Pontifex Geronimo 13 ----Great post ---

unsafe says -----worth repeating ------

does not reject the title good teacher. So, you are reading something into this text that is not there.

He does say no one is good but one. Then in answer to the question, “what must I do?”, Jesus lays out a bit of the law.

The young ruler, then lies, and says, basically, I’m good!

So Jesus could have argued any of those sins, but instead goes for the big one.

You shall have no other gods before me.

The bible says none of us have kept the first one.

And that’s why we need a saviour.

One other thing:

Interpreting scripture should be done in light of other scripture, not apart from. That is foolishness. That lets you come to a mixed bag of bs, never moving ahead.


Some will reject this but as the scripture says -------

 

[chansen]

That is still one of the most disturbing images ever.

 

[paradox3]

That is still one of the most disturbing images ever.

Oh yes, it is a weird one.

Perhaps I will see what the mods say about a "no meme" rule for the John thread.

@unsafe I seriously think a simple Like for PG13's post would have sufficed.

 

[Mendalla]

Oh yes, it is a weird one.

It does quote Luke though.

 

[chansen]

Oh yes, it is a weird one.

There is also no ground on the duplex outlet. When connected to a mouth, which is a moist environment, a ground is essential.

 

[BetteTheRed]

The ruler replied that he had kept all the commandments from his youth.

Jesus stated there was still one thing missing. The ruler must sell all his possessions and give the money to the poor. It is very difficult for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God.

Jesus didn't disagree with the rich person/ruler's assertion that he had kept the 10 commandments, or perhaps even all 613 mitzvot. He said there was one more - don't be rich; give everything away.

Now, would any of us be willing to do this? Is it certainly easier for one with few possessions than one with many?

 

[paradox3]

Jesus didn't disagree with the rich person/ruler's assertion that he had kept the 10 commandments, or perhaps even all 613 mitzvot. He said there was one more - don't be rich; give everything away.

I wonder if the point is we can never, ever rest on our laurels when it comes to bringing about God's kingdom. There is always more that we could do, even if it is impractical. Was Jesus using hyperbole, maybe?

Interesting that those listening protest and ask who will ever be saved if this is the requirement.

And Jesus replies, "What is impossible for mortals is possible for God." We cannot do it on our own, He might be saying here, but we are to keep trying.

 

[paradox3]

Summary: Luke 18: 31-34

Jesus took the twelve aside.

He explained that they were going up to Jerusalem and everything that was written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished.

He will be handed over to the Gentiles and he will be mocked, insulted and spat upon. After they have flogged him, they will kill him and on the third day, he will rise again.

The disciples did not understand. In fact, what he said was hidden from them.

 

[Pontifex Geronimo 13]

Jesus didn't disagree with the rich person/ruler's assertion that he had kept the 10 commandments, or perhaps even all 613 mitzvot. He said there was one more - don't be rich; give everything away.

Now, would any of us be willing to do this? Is it certainly easier for one with few possessions than one with many?

Don’t be rich is not a commandment.

 

[paradox3]

Reflection Luke 18: 31-34

Just a few verses for today. I am slowing down my pace so that we will arrive at the triumphant entry to Jerusalem on Palm Sunday.

So what do you make of this text? For those of us who know the narrative well, it certainly serves as a reminder of what comes next.

Jesus is attempting to tell the disciples something really important and they just don't get it. Why not? Why was it hidden from them? Who would have hidden it and for what purpose?

Why does Luke tell this story? Is it to explain why the disciples will later scatter and betray Him?

Which Hebrew scriptures would Jesus have meant? Does anyone know?

 

[Pontifex Geronimo 13]

Which Hebrew scriptures would Jesus have meant? Does anyone know?

Of course! But you prefer to read scripture while pretending no other scripture exists.

 

[paradox3]

Of course! But you prefer to read scripture while pretending no other scripture exists.

Luke has Jesus saying, "Everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished."

It seems fair to ask which writings Jesus might have meant.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Don’t be rich is not a commandment.

It was to the rich ruler. Now, you can argue that the commandment is only for rich rulers, but it was certainly an additional commandment from Jesus to him. And if it only applies to the ruling class, wonder why it's in there? There's a lot more of us than them.

 

[Waterfall]

Jesus didn't disagree with the rich person/ruler's assertion that he had kept the 10 commandments, or perhaps even all 613 mitzvot. He said there was one more - don't be rich; give everything away.

Now, would any of us be willing to do this? Is it certainly easier for one with few possessions than one with many?

The contradiction(possibly) is that Jesus' ministry was supported by some rich women.....
That being said, I think it's possible that having too much stuff can take away our focus on God's kingdom....when is enough, enough? Possibly having too much classifies someone as materially rich and points toward a hoarding and pompous nature that would rather focus on maintaining the status quo rather than using the excess towards the betterment of society?
Could a rich young man have the insight to reevaluate whats important? I think so, or he could just walk away. Maybe understanding being blessed with riches means you should also understand you should serve God by blessing others?

 

[unsafe]

it ia all about making a god out of your stuff ------and not trusting God to give you what you really need to have and do to advance His kingdom not our kingdom ---the rich young ruler made his choice who his god really was -----and where your treasure is their also will be your heart -----that is scriptural -------Matthew 6:21

when anyone says they will no part with their stuff ---their making their ---stuff ---their god -------

 

[paradox3]

it ia all about making a god out of your stuff ------and not trusting God to give you what you really need to have and do to advance His kingdom not our kingdom ---the rich young ruler made his choice who his god really was -----and where your treasure is their also will be your heart -----that is scriptural -------Matthew 6:21

when anyone says they will no part with their stuff ---their making their ---stuff ---their god -------

Could be.

I know you will find this hard to believe, but your contributions on the Luke thread would be more meaningful if you could manage to leave the other gospels out of the conversation. But thank you for identifying your sources rather than simply conflating the different gospel accounts.

 

[blackbelt1961]

Luke has Jesus saying, "Everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished."

Not just Luke,, also Mathew, Mark, John, and all the rest

 

[blackbelt1961]

Could be.

I know you will find this hard to believe, but your contributions on the Luke thread would be more meaningful if you could manage to leave the other gospels out of the conversation. But thank you for identifying your sources rather than simply conflating the different gospel accounts.

actually, it would be less meaningful

 

[paradox3]

Not just Luke,, also Mathew, Mark, John, and all the rest

You don't think Jesus is referring to the Old Testament Prophets in Luke 18: 31-34?

I thought He was.

 

[blackbelt1961]

You don't think Jesus is referring to the Old Testament Prophets in Luke 18: 31-34?

I thought He was.

all the bible has a central figure ,