Are we still able to debate fairly?

[Luce NDs]

What does 8 billion folk rendered make? Just another slick mess ... with some divine separation ... the borderline personalities could be separated from the core code ... innate myths about one of the two spirits dashing off ... thus the innate perspective is out in reality and all that is under that is abstract! The powers of mad can't see it from where they're at ... high on something! Hyped as in hype ogre phy and hype grads?

The immaterial has to be broken down ...

 

[jimkenney12]

It is not just the balance is wrong. It is the substitution of shadow people as authorities for people qualified to be seen as authorities and the lack of basic knowledge of science and society.

 

[Mendalla]

It is not just the balance is wrong. It is the substitution of shadow people as authorities for people qualified to be seen as authorities and the lack of basic knowledge of science and society.

That's kind of the balance I am talking about, really. That's a lack of the "reason" side.

And arguably, a fundamental problem of democracy is that you don't need to be qualified to lead or make decisions. That was Socrates/Plato's problem with it. How can we be giving authority to people who lack the knowledge of both the world and the moral underpinnings of existence (like what is just)? Socrates approach was to question, to try to coax people into the realization of what they did not know. Plato went a step further and deconstructed the whole thing with his fictional Republic in The Republic, and other explorations of possible governance and legal systems in later dialogues. So it's not like this is a new problem or that political philosophers haven't noticed it. However, as Churchill suggested, it may still be the least bad system once one looks at things like tyranny, oligarchy, etc. (though, as I suggested elsewhere, a benevolent oligarchy or dictatorship might actually be a more just, more stable system than some democratic systems, it's just that every effort at such a system turns to tyranny eventually).

 

[Spirit Wind 7]

I don't want to vote for people who follow the WEF. Now the WHO is positioning itself to take over world health and dictate everything.
Power corrupts and total power is corrupt. No one knows enough to say they know it all and will keep us healthy. They allow all sorts of things that
pollute so how can that workout? The double talk is that of dictators. I think the PM has been involved and will simply hand us over.
There will be no discussion with the people he is supposed to serve, not rule over.

Funny how politics uses nice words then forgets them once in office. Winning and serving? Win to serve?
It clearly states 'serve' in taking the oath of office. Hmmm.... be careful of rabbit holes.

 

[BetteTheRed]

I'm not sure I disagree with you about the World Economic Forum, given that it comprises representatives from large global corporations, and to my mind, this makes it unlikely that they would ever investigate alternate economic systems.

Now the WHO is positioning itself to take over world health and dictate everything.

OTOH, I'm not sure I see that. I like the idea of a global clearing house for health ideas. During the pandemic, I've seen their role not as dictating, but as collecting information and freely providing it to the global medical/healthcare community.

 

[Mendalla]

OTOH, I'm not sure I see that

It's a hoax based on some hypothetical work. WHO has no authority to act in that way and no one is going to give it to them. There are mostly a coordinating and advisory body.

 

[jimkenney12]

All our prime minister's since Mulroney have handed us over to neoliberalism /neoconservatism. The creation of the fantasy of trickle down economics is the conspiracy making life difficult for many. Exxon leading other oil companies in campaigning against climate change theory is another great conspiracy. Another great conspiracy promoted by a variety of actors is the belief that scientists around the world will conspire to support and promote a lie. If people knew more about science, they would know this would be like herding cats

 

[Luce NDs]

Such liberal conservatism in balance is so confusing as a medium!

 

[Spirit Wind 7]

Countries like ours who are involved by governments choice can hand us over to them.
May 28th, today, it comes down and it will depend on how many countries give away their power to them.
Objectors had till today to speak up. They did not plan any consultations and it tells me we need to be
sure who we are voting for in any, and every election.

Israel was handed over to Pfizer as a test group for the shot and are still reeling from it all. They warned us what would come and it did.

No one is perfect so cannot make a perfect product. To make us all around the world have the same drugs as if we were clones is
off the wall crazy. We were made different and amazingly able to self heal. We need to encourage the inner healthy part to be able
to heal as God intended. Good nutrition is best practice. Always.

Again I'll promote Community Gardens for as food supplies are being challenged we will need to feed people. And ourselves.

Blessings all....

 

[BetteTheRed]

To make us all around the world have the same drugs as if we were clones is
off the wall crazy.

We're not clones, but we're all humans. And we all face pretty common diseases, viruses, bacteria. So the same treatment (say an antibiotic) against an infection caused by a common bacteria (e.g. staph) should be absolutely fine whether you're treating Anna in Russia, or Andrew in New Zealand.

 

[Mendalla]

To make us all around the world have the same drugs as if we were clones is
off the wall crazy. We were made different and amazingly able to self heal.

In fact, there is a more and more work going on around tailoring drugs to specific cases and persons based on their genetics and other factors. Right now, it is mostly focussed on things like cancer where genetics are a factor in the first place since they feel this will give us the most bang for the buck, but it will likely turn up in other areas, too.

 

[jimkenney12]

Please explain what happened in Israel that was due to the vaccine.

 

[ChemGal]

In fact, there is a more and more work going on around tailoring drugs to specific cases and persons based on their genetics and other factors. Right now, it is mostly focussed on things like cancer where genetics are a factor in the first place since they feel this will give us the most bang for the buck, but it will likely turn up in other areas, too.

I think dosing is something that could be done on an individual basis much better but it does complicate things for administration.

 

[Mendalla]

Please explain what happened in Israel that was due to the vaccine.

With a link to the source, please, not just "so and so said" so we can evaluate it for ourselves.

 

[Spirit Wind 7]

I have attached "The Jerusalem Report" from the Children's Health Defense site. There are several reports there in video.
The reporter is a Health Critic. She has reported regularly after the shots were started there. She is accurate and speaks
clearly what is going on in her country.

The Jerusalem Report with llana Rachel Daniel

Help Children’s Health Defense and RFK, Jr. end the epidemic of poor health plaguing our children.

live.childrenshealthdefense.org

I am a member of the Canadian Chapter of The Children's Health Defense. Not that active, but children do need protection. I am trusting the link will work
it isn't blue, but adding might do it. I hope it helps as they have been vaccinated many times since it began there as a trial without the peoples permission.
They were cajoled, tricked and threatened like we were to take it. No way to report adverse results and there were many.
I believe they did find a way to gather reports.

 

[jimkenney12]

The link was to all the reports. I watched most of two of them. They combined good data with paranoid speculation. I appreciated the information about Cargill today. Cargill is a family company that started as a grain trading company. In the late 60s or 70s (I do not remember which decade), there were about three wild years of speculation in wheat where it shot up and down several times and Cargill pocketed billions of dollars on extra profits and became a major agricultural corporation.

The impression I got from the video is an assumption that there is a conspiracy to weaken democracy driving a search for data to support that assumption.

 

[Spirit Wind 7]

The assumption is right, and it is not just in Israel, India, but here in the west. We are the last bastions of freedom... the west.
But it is at severe risk. Lock downs were a worldwide plan. The story was the same all round the world.
Now that never exists unless some top people are telling you what to say. Our countries are so different in many ways
and there can not be the same all over unless it was planned.
The media all over had the same message.. vilify anyone, anything that poses a threat to people taking a vaccine.
Or anything else. Push vaccines, and use fear to make sure we comply.

The fact it was done worldwide is more than suspicious. This is almost history now. WHO has said to stop them as it is now Omricon and
the vaccines are not made for that. No one is listening, it seems.

Fear has made us too compliant. That is another thing God does not use... is Fear. Any time God, or any representing God approaches...
the word is, 'Fear not'. 'Don't be afraid, it is I.'

I don't trust fear mongering to this high level of push and force. There is a line that I stop at, or my mental health would be affected.
Something learned as a child. Hysteria seems to develop and people stop their usual way of being, believing and hearing.
Knowing yourself is really helpful when this happens. When the limit is reached walk away and stay till calm elsewhere is restored.

That doesn't mean I am not afraid, it means I won't let it take over. I often think of camp and the night sky filled with zillions
of sparkling stars way above me. Wonder is a path to calm and to God.

Namaste ...

 

[Luce NDs]

There is extreme fear and you know ... the mediocre type that the physical gods despise ... it may penetrate the mind as a cautious thought! The mind as neural space ... a strange domain of shared dominion ... sometimes!

Unless some one hammered the other half in search of competitive loss in the alternate ... thus knowledge is lesser in the world of proclaimed virtue that may not be as incarnates (that is appears as not). All this in support of sporting debate and apo plexus ...

What's plexus? That's another myth or story retained in the myth of psyche ... from a discussion by Elaine Pagels on subtle Gnostics ... profundity in myth?

Not for the predetermined that are already established in a position ...

 

[jimkenney12]

What if the assumption is wrong? Was the global vaccination against smallpox part of such ne long term conspiracy or just health leaders around the world trusting the science and eliminating a disease that killed hundreds of millions of people over the centuries?

How about the global action on polio? Measles injured or killed many children when I was a child. It was almost eradicated globally until a doctor greedy for attention intentionally lied about some research and linked the vaccine to autism. Now people are getting sick or dying from measles again.

People against vaccines in general are for the deaths of millions of people whose immune systems are compromised at the time they encounter those pathogens.

 

[Luce NDs]

What if the assumption is wrong? Was the global vaccination against smallpox part of such ne long term conspiracy or just health leaders around the world trusting the science and eliminating a disease that killed hundreds of millions of people over the centuries?

How about the global action on polio? Measles injured or killed many children when I was a child. It was almost eradicated globally until a doctor greedy for attention intentionally lied about some research and linked the vaccine to autism. Now people are getting sick or dying from measles again.

People against vaccines in general are for the deaths of millions of people whose immune systems are compromised at the time they encounter those pathogens.

Let us face it ... for all we know (not much) ... all is theory ... the assumption of Theo 's Dore in spatial accommodation ... for which many have no appreciation ... a type of respect and responsibility as if somebody cared. Care is ANis in some traditional stories as the myth of AN-US?

Thus the A* Theory on pathologies ... the potential of segregating the proper ones that assumed they shouldn't be anything but leaders ...as they were the only ones that were aware ... an improper assumption? Thus the power of denial demonstrates itself while outlawing democratic demos ...

Within larger powers it ad sup to nothing but Jew Sae ... if you can see the sapient factor ... may relate to resting sin apps ... or jumped up synapses ... alert? Or os the Nordic would say Acton ... and the essence of Lord reiterated on corruption ...

And nothing is hated in the real world any more that a sharp one as is ... about to cut out and take down another M'N or Mu's as the Maria Le Voix spoke out of the bayou ... lo' wa' wamp ohm! Make it as you go ... what's out there will have some expectations ...

Recall that the world is just a stage ... expect incarnates ... as initiates ... they may have don' data assumption ... and lost grip!