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I tend to think that Jesus death was more of a sign that we are to remain committed to participate in creating God s Kingdom on earth as it is in heaven, at all costs. Our eyes have been opened and Gods spirit remains with us to do this.Waterfall ----your quote ---------Can you explain this santification process and why it is required after Jesus has died for our sins?
unsafe says ---very good question Waterfall -----as Sanctification is included in the Sozo Package -------as is redemption ----and Justification -----Anyone Saved is as Holy As they can be ------they are ready and accepted as Heaven Bound for eternal life -----God has Forgiven us our sins ----all past --present and future sins God remembers no more -------
True Christians will still sin and we are to acknowledge that we did sin buy confessing that we still do sin but God does not impute ---charge us with that sin anymore ------True Christians are Saints in God's eyes --------
People who are not Saved are today still under the Law and the curse and are Sinners in God's eyes ------
Just to be clear, I have no problem with anyone bringing other scriptures into this conversation. But please let us know when you are doing this. We are, after all, attempting to reflect on Matthew's gospel.
How much of the above would you say comes from Matthew's gospel? I have noticed quite a tendency for you to conflate various parts of the bible.
I wasn't specifically going off of Matthew here p3, nor did I say that I was. I see the Bible as one grand narrative of redemption.
Yes, I am getting that from some of your comments. Does this mean you are unable or unwilling to discuss a single gospel at one time? Say, to discuss the gospel of Matthew on a thread that has been created for that purpose?I wasn't specifically going off of Matthew here p3, nor did I say that I was. I see the Bible as one grand narrative of redemption.
Yes, I am getting that from some of your comments. Does this mean you are unable or unwilling to discuss a single gospel at one time? Say, to discuss the gospel of Matthew on a thread that has been created for that purpose?
Why the condemnation of me p3? I don't see you giving same to others. Of course I can discuss events which occurred within a specific gospel. For the most part, I have been doing exactly that.
Did I not just ask another poster if she was referring to Matthew or using other scriptures?Why the condemnation of me p3? I don't see you giving same to others. Of course I can discuss events which occurred within a specific gospel. For the most part, I have been doing exactly that.
Did I not just ask another poster if she was referring to Matthew or using other scriptures?
No one is condemning you, Jae.
I am glad to hear you are up for discussing events occurring in a specific gospel. I agree we have seen many such posts from you on the Matthew thread. I am not interested in doing a count so if you say you have been doing so "for the most part" I am happy to accept that.
Right now I am considering how I will approach the Mark thread. Open to any feedback. . . P3
But It was Jesus a Jew who stated that He has come to Fulfill, Christian theology and Jewish believers simply state what Jesus saidI think we have to be careful when we're talking about ancient Judaism not to use Christian theology/scripture as the lens through which we might be tempted to judge that religion.
But It was Jesus a Jew who stated that He has come to Fulfill, Christian theology and Jewish believers simply state what Jesus said
Yes you can be a maiden and be a virgin....the issue is whether it was God or another human who took her virginity and whether a mere mortal conceived by mortals can be considered divine.
If we put aside Paul and the various epistles, what do we think Jesus was advocating in Matthew's gospel?But It was Jesus a Jew who stated that He has come to Fulfill, Christian theology and Jewish believers simply state what Jesus said
How important is this issue to everyone here?being impregnated by a man has a different than approach being impregnated by Gods Spirit
being impregnated by a man has a different than approach being impregnated by Gods Spirit
If we put aside Paul and the various epistles, what do we think Jesus was advocating in Matthew's gospel?
A renewal of ancient Judaism without the influence of the Pharisees?
A reformed version of Judaism?
A new faith (i.e. Christian) altogether?
If we put aside Paul and the various epistles, what do we think Jesus was advocating in Matthew's gospel?
A renewal of ancient Judaism without the influence of the Pharisees?
A reformed version of Judaism?
A new faith (i.e. Christian) altogether?