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Redbaron said:
Nicodemus was a lawyer, not a theologian.
Ponder. Study. Think before you post.
A lot of foolishness can be avoided that way.
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BS he was also a Pharisee and a member of the Sanhedrin member of the Jewish ruling council, which made him an expert

there are lots of examples with educated theologians today also , Gretta for one,
 
Jae said:
One of the things they taught us at the seminary I graduated from was to build our own theology. Different schools, different approaches perhaps.
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They helped us to build a theology on the bases of Scripture, tradition, reason and experience; not to create our own theology. Subtle difference there. (or maybe not so subtle?)
 
Jae said:
One of the things they taught us at the seminary I graduated from was to build our own theology. Different schools, different approaches perhaps.
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yep

1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
 
blackbelt1961 said:
BS he was also a Pharisee and a member of the Sanhedrin member of the Jewish ruling council, which made him an expert

there are lots of examples with educated theologians today also , Gretta for one,
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Have you read any of Gretta's books or articles, or pondered at all about what she has written or said?
Didn't think so.
Again, ponder. Study. Learn something before you post about it.
And just for the record, there are much better and much more reliable sources of real information that 'got questions' and 'answers in Genesis' You may want to broaden your horizons. Be careful though.... you might actually learn something....
 
Redbaron said:
They helped us to build a theology on the bases of Scripture, tradition, reason and experience; not to create our own theology. Subtle difference there. (or maybe not so subtle?)
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Thing is Redbaron, everyone will put those things together st least a bit differently. Hence, we do create our own theologies. The way we put those things together will be influenced by such things as the biases we go in with, our personal value systems and experiences that we've had.
 
Redbaron said:
They helped us to build a theology on the bases of Scripture, tradition, reason and experience; not to create our own theology. Subtle difference there. (or maybe not so subtle?)
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you mean like Gretta Vosper? or John Dominic Crossan ?

oh plulesseeee, your seminary is nothing more than mans intelligence. without Gods Spirit it is void
 
Interesting that the discussion has returned to Matthew 1 (the virgin birth story) as we are wrapping up the Matthew thread.

I am not sure where the last few posts are going. If anyone wants to revisit the issues surrounding the Vosper case or Gretta's theology, please take it to the mega Vosper thread.

At Tim Hortons just before Christmas, I ran into someone I know. He is aware I am a United Church member and he asked me if I knew anything about the "lady atheist minister". I said, "I know quite a bit but please don't get me started."

Please let us not start into GV again on the Matthew thread.
 
Redbaron said:
Have you read any of Gretta's books or articles, or pondered at all about what she has written or said?
Didn't think so.
Again, ponder. Study. Learn something before you post about it.
And just for the record, there are much better and much more reliable sources of real information that 'got questions' and 'answers in Genesis' You may want to broaden your horizons. Be careful though.... you might actually learn something....
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ill tell you what, you follow Gretta

and I will follow Gods Spirit , and if you one day Like , you can also study Learn something before you post about it when you Follow Gods Spirit and not mans
 
Jae said:
Thing is Redbaron, everyone will put those things together st least a bit differently. Hence, we do create our own theologies. The way we put those things together will be influenced by such things as the biases we go in with, our personal value systems and experiences that we've had.
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redbaron thinks, appealing to his education gives him Truth to Gods Wisdom

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You're lumping Crossan and Vosper together?
What are you afraid of learning?
 
Rdbaron is not appealing to his education. Redbaron is talking about facts, and truth, and reality. Ignore those three things at your own risk. Or, if you're so inclined, just keep digging your hole.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have things to do.
 
Redbaron -----your quote ------I'm a seminary graduate. I have studied Scripture. I continue to study Scripture. I do not make up my own theology.


unsafe says ----you can be a the King of all Seminary Graduates -----no degree no matter how high will give you the real Spiritual meaning of what the Scripture is saying -----your Seminary degrees and all other degrees are for this physical world they will do you no good in figuring out the Spiritual meaning of God's word ----The Holy Spirit who dwells in us is the only one who can and will give us the True Spiritual meaning of the scripture -------and that is a Period +++++++++-----

and these statement you make to blackbelt1961 here ------ Maybe if you studied Scripture more closely you might discover that YOU are not the voice of authority.
Maybe if you studied Scripture more closely you might discover some line (in Matthew's gospel, no less) about not judging, lest you yourself be judged.

unsafe says -----you are in fact judging blackbelt1961 with this statement above in black ------OH how easy it is --for us all to judge others -----


unsafe says ----The Scripture makes it very clear that the Natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God -----


unsafe posting from I Corinthians -----


1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
Redbaron said:
Rdbaron is not appealing to his education. Redbaron is talking about facts, and truth, and reality. Ignore those three things at your own risk. Or, if you're so inclined, just keep digging your hole.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have things to do.
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]quoting you ,,,,,,,,,,,,

I'm a seminary graduate. I have studied Scripture. I continue to study Scripture. I do not make up my own theology.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
redbaron thinks, appealing to his education gives him Truth to Gods Wisdom

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Seminary education can be a great help and encouragement in thinking theologically. Is it absolutely necessary in keeping in step with the Spirit and knowing the word of God? No.
 
Anyone got any ideas about how I might be able to keep the Mark thread more on track? :)

Perhaps the value of a seminary education needs to move to a new thread.
 
unsafe said:
Redbaron -----your quote ------I'm a seminary graduate. I have studied Scripture. I continue to study Scripture. I do not make up my own theology.


unsafe says ----you can be a the King of all Seminary Graduates -----no degree no matter how high will give you the real Spiritual meaning of what the Scripture is saying -----your Seminary degrees and all other degrees are for this physical world they will do you no good in figuring out the Spiritual meaning of God's word ----The Holy Spirit who dwells in us is the only one who can and will give us the True Spiritual meaning of the scripture -------and that is a Period +++++++++-----

and these statement you make to blackbelt1961 here ------ Maybe if you studied Scripture more closely you might discover that YOU are not the voice of authority.
Maybe if you studied Scripture more closely you might discover some line (in Matthew's gospel, no less) about not judging, lest you yourself be judged.

unsafe says -----you are in fact judging blackbelt1961 with this statement above in black ------OH how easy it is --for us all to judge others -----


unsafe says ----The Scripture makes it very clear that the Natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God -----


unsafe posting from I Corinthians -----


1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
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I dont mind, the spirit of the world always comes againts the Spirit of God, no matter how educated one is
 
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