He gives us a list to go by. He showed it again on PowerPoint again just this past Sunday. He doesn't give us an exact party to vote for, but he tells us we vote for candidates who are pro-life, anti-euthanasia, kind to the poor, good stewards of the environment, etc. We do not host all-candidates meetings - which is something I'm glad for, since I believe that isn't what a church is called to do.
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If you believe in every one of those, there weren't any candidates who fit the bill on all of them, in any party.
Not one Cousin? In all 300-whatever ridings? How do you know this?
None of the parties candidates endorse 'all' those values at once, according to party platform - unless there are any independents or tiny parties I don't know about. Do you? And Trudeau said all his MPs have to be pro-choice, didn't he?
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Just in case that was a sling at our church because I mentioned that an 'all-candidates' meeting was held in my church building - please note: We did NOT host and all-candidates meeting.
We pride ourselves that our building is used seven days a week. We have excellent acoustics and seating capacity for a large number of people. In order to maintain our building and be of maximum service, we rent out space at aa reasonable rate to individuals or groups who are not in conflict with our mission. We don't see an all-candidates meeting as being in conflict.
Is Godly as "everything included" meant to consider all things knowledgeably as some Ju's do ... others only allow specific laws as nothing is known beyond that ... expanding on everything is God nothing? If love is nothing does it run interference with knowledge ... that feinting chance?
One has to get a good understanding of the substitution of the "I" for the : "J" over time to allow hooking the I around to see what it is gawking at ... these one gets a good look at themselves from otside the system.
You think I'yam crazy ... you should see what mortals look at from outside the coven ante ... the previous skin?
Not a word about the RIP Eire ... a fault in space as A' dore Asian of cults in the east ... they raise with the sun ... called cultivation in dip oøL ... Ni-pon? Nary a nibble ... to indicate the lady in there was to be consumed ... thus the tongue lashing, or she was tongue tied by the apparent missing sexuality ... a manifestation? Speak of Eire ...
You think I'yam crazy ... you should see what mortals look at from outside the coven ante ... the previous skin?
Not a word about the RIP Eire ... a fault in space as A' dore Asian of cults in the east ... they raise with the sun ... called cultivation in dip oøL ... Ni-pon? Nary a nibble ... to indicate the lady in there was to be consumed ... thus the tongue lashing, or she was tongue tied by the apparent missing sexuality ... a manifestation? Speak of Eire ...
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There were some independents running, and some smaller parties. Our church members and adherents come from a number of different ridings, and I can't comment on each of the ridings' candidates. Here in Etobicoke Centre, besides the usual party contenders we had a Progressive Canadian running. In any event, what our Senior Pastor wants us to do is to vote for whomever best matches up with his list.
Actually Seeler, I was clearly speaking with BetteTheRed. There was no "sling" either. I was only sharing what I feel the policy of a church should be. My feelings stem from my belief that a church should not properly have its own mission, but rather should involve itself in the mission of God. Hence, the government a church should concern itself with is the Kingdom of God.
BetteTheRed
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So, if one believes that the Kingdom of Godde is right here on earth, right now, obviously, involving oneself in politics is appropriate. Besides, if you're working on a list (I do it too - although it would have different criteria than your pastor's), it's a pretty easy way to vet the local candidates against issues that are important to you.
If the dead become part of God'sole ... would they haunt us as thoughts? Developing in to an extensive psyche! Larger than mortals could imagine ... except, perhaps a few with dark abstractions ... imaginary type as in the Shadow as lesser power than emotional outburst as a spiritual busts?
Did you ever wonder @Pr. Jae ... how the Hebrew word for dead/death substituted for "wisdom" in English ... tis a weird spin Gnostic emotions and when the spiritual movers pass (becoming un-stuck) would make emotionally based being without clues bounce with avarice! Could we label this wander lust ... for those that lost Q'Lues? Thus the somewhat Luce and thoughts fall like the silent rain ... in a soft pool. Could be a real drip of a metaphor to create conception on both sides ... deuce 've a thing!
Unsafe and AC overlook such flexible pools in their search to direct God on everybody when she is already there and burning over the children attempting to control and confine the Mother of God .. contrary to the Ten Commandments ... just to extend the conflict and retain those here that wouldn't abide by co operatin in heaven when there are so many angels to deal with ... sort of like being lost in SheBa ... Adonis ... onus?
Did you ever wonder @Pr. Jae ... how the Hebrew word for dead/death substituted for "wisdom" in English ... tis a weird spin Gnostic emotions and when the spiritual movers pass (becoming un-stuck) would make emotionally based being without clues bounce with avarice! Could we label this wander lust ... for those that lost Q'Lues? Thus the somewhat Luce and thoughts fall like the silent rain ... in a soft pool. Could be a real drip of a metaphor to create conception on both sides ... deuce 've a thing!
Unsafe and AC overlook such flexible pools in their search to direct God on everybody when she is already there and burning over the children attempting to control and confine the Mother of God .. contrary to the Ten Commandments ... just to extend the conflict and retain those here that wouldn't abide by co operatin in heaven when there are so many angels to deal with ... sort of like being lost in SheBa ... Adonis ... onus?
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Are there bred rites or just good breading that excludes those messing about in heaven without knowing the responsibilities .. as was biblically stated ... "teach my children" about what? Could that be everything ... all integrated ... fried in depths (adepts)?
Perhaps we misse tit and thus fussed ... breast of a story right out of the Song of Solemon ...
Is teaching of love when eliminated an adverse move towards of teaching of hate of strange, alien and foreign actions?
Does create a mystery tho' ... redacted from the "O" whereas one of the members in mental absentia noted that "theo" meant the flow, or runner (welcome Matt at the threshold) perhaps that Thessalonian Guise ... a cover-up for something else, otherwise cursed into taking flight as chi knew she had something contageous ?
Perhaps we misse tit and thus fussed ... breast of a story right out of the Song of Solemon ...
Is teaching of love when eliminated an adverse move towards of teaching of hate of strange, alien and foreign actions?
Does create a mystery tho' ... redacted from the "O" whereas one of the members in mental absentia noted that "theo" meant the flow, or runner (welcome Matt at the threshold) perhaps that Thessalonian Guise ... a cover-up for something else, otherwise cursed into taking flight as chi knew she had something contageous ?
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Graeme Decarie
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It's not an issue of making 'goody-goody' statements. It's a question of encouraging and understanding thinking and open discussion of what the "Godly choice" is. In our local paper, we have a half-dozen fundamentalist clergy who write the faith page on Sunday. Invariably, they write bed-time stories reminding us that Jesus loves us. They also tell us that abortion is bad. But, by their silence, they tell us killing Muslims is good.
And what is "Godly" about an economic system based on personal greed?
Synagogues are much livelier.
And what is "Godly" about an economic system based on personal greed?
Synagogues are much livelier.
BetteTheRed
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Pretty much, although really progressive social justice congregations with a few noisy people (like mine), aren't too far off.
I'm pretty sure that you're right that my Senior Pastor and I voted differently Cousin. Of course, I don't actually know how he voted, but it's common knowledge in our church that he generally sides with the Conservatives. In voting, however, I wasn't seeking to critique him.
What I've noticed in my experience Graeme, is that many evangelicals feel that if they're conservative theologically, they must also choose to be conservative politically. In my church, the Conservatives get lauded by our members and adherents more for their perceived social stands than for their economic policies. However, I would posit that Conservative -style economics, built on greed as they are appeal to the us-them mentality that many evangelicals have bought into.
The conservational-ist is afraid to step off into the unknown .. as it is the unknown that can kill you ... not the known ... and this conservative would rather liberals get blamed for the fall ... and not being successful doing the same old thing ... screwing up ! Screwing and intercourse is a redundant thing ... we do it over and over as a time when people are not cognizant ... thus generally successful without knowing ! Is that a conspiracy of naïveté?
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So how do people feel aboot FabHair?