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Sure, we can tap into our hidden consciousness and unleash our internal healing code. Then we'll live well and die well. We'll live and die well mainly because we know that our ultimate self is forever, at-one with the eternal Divine.:)
 
Is the hidden consciousness ... like the unconscious and not dealt with well by those that do not even believe in the existence of the mind/psyche/soul complex a' Di thing?
 
Christian Hypnosis? - Rev. Tom Zegan MA. PhD. CCHt.
BTW, Rev Tom Zegan, do you mind if what you call 'Christian Hypnosis' I call PNEUMA-therapy? I believe they are one and the same.


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What does the Bible say's about Hypnosis?


When I first discovered Romans, 7:15-25 I was a Jr. in High School and I was struggling with some sin in my life that had complete control over me.
15: I don't understand myself at all, for I want to do what is right, but I can't. I do what I want to -- what I hate.
16: I know perfectly well that what I'm doing is wrong and my conscience proves that I agree with the laws I am breaking.
17: but I can't help myself, because I'm no longer doing it. It is the sin inside me that is stronger than I am that makes me do these evil things.
18: I know I am rotten through and through so far as my old sinful nature is concerned. No matter which way I turn, I can't make myself do right. I want to but I can't.
Does this sound familiar?


19: When I want to do good, I don't; and when I try not to do wrong, I do it anyway.
20: Now if I'm doing what I don't want to, it's plain where the trouble is: sin still has it's evil grasp on me.
21: It seems to be a fact of life that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong.
22: I love to do God's will so far as my (conscious mind) new nature is concerned;

WHAT PAUL SAYS ABOVE AND BELOW APPEARS TO ME TO BE IN SYNC WITH WHAT I HAVE IN MIND WHEN I SPEAK and think OF the WHOLE OF PHYSICAL NATURE -- made up of all kind of material objects, much of which, since the dawn of philosophy, the physical and mental sciences and the arts, have been explored and studied by students and masters who became interested in what is called the natural sciences--to name a few of the main ones: physics, chemistry, biochemistry, physiology, geology, geography, botany, biology, astronomy (sun, moon, stars, galaxies ... ) anatomy, medicine, and so on.

23: There is something else deep inside me, in my (Subconscious) lower nature, that is at war with my (conscious) mind and wins the fight which makes me a slave to the sin that is still inside me. In my (conscious) mind I want to be God's willing servant but instead I find myself still enslaved to sin.

AS GREAT CULTURES EVOLVED ALONG CAME MOTHERS AND FATHERS NURTURERS --in other words, mature adults willing to give of their time and add more and more to the supply of knowledge and pass it on then and to all generations as they came along.

UNDER THE HEADING 'PNEUMA-ture'-- that is, being blessed with a conscious and fully aware SPIRIT we then have a true friend and guide who, helps us have happy natures and be wise nurturers--including working on our own bodies and minds.

24: So you see how it is: my (conscious mind) new life tells me to do right, but the (Subconscious) old nature that is still inside me loves to sin.

25: Oh, what a Terrible Predicament I'm in! Who will free me from my slavery to this deadly (Subconscious) lower nature? Thank God! It has been done by Jesus Christ our Lord. He has set me free.


Paul, Epistle to the Romans, 7:15-25 The Living Bible

What Paul is explaining to us is that there is a war going on in our minds, it's our conscious mind vs. our subconscious mind. Paul is actually demonstrating to us in his own life how his subconscious mind is much stronger than his conscious mind and actually he's 100% correct.

Our conscious minds which is where our Logic and Reasons are as well as our Decisions and Will Power are only make up about 12% of our mind, whereas our subconscious mind (where Paul calls our lower nature) makes up about 88% of our total mind. Now, can you see where the conflict or the battle that Paul talks about actually is? It's within our subconscious mind or in our lower nature or old sinful nature as Paul calls it!


Deuteronomy 6:4-9 - "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. Write them on the door frames of your houses and on your gates."

Why would the Old Testament writer instruct us to take in God's commandments when we are lying down? Is he talking about when we are resting (relaxed) or even sleeping (unconscious)?

Christian Hypnosis is simple, the Biblical principles that you suggest to me are suggested back to you while you are deeply, deeply relaxed (almost asleep) thereby bypassing the critical filter in your conscious mind and making these suggestions directly to your subconscious mind. Yes, you are still in complete control and you will only be given suggestions that you (conscious mind) agree with in the first place.

Do you currently feel the way Paul felt in Romans 7:15-25?
If you are interested in learning more about Christian Hypnosis from a Biblical perspective please contact Rev Tom Zegan MA. PhD. CCHt. at (7l4) 34l-2468

*Some issues may require a psychological or medical referral. Certifird Hypnotherapist are not licensed by the State of California as Medical Practitioners.




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So are you saying that programming is required for hypo purpose or de-programming from the flash cards fed us as wee chits?

Crappy existence in the now should teach us something from the 88% that doesn't consciously process ... an anima whorled?

Thus we shall eat our way out of house and hommoe (a common thing as a general fault in logic)! Could this be related to LOGOS, or God in another form of perception ... or just Maas hypnosis as morals against ethics ...
 
What, Christian hypnosis?

I once heard a Seventh Day Adventist teacher say: "We don't have any Christian math books yet." Well, if there is such a thing as Christian math, then there can be Christian hypnosis. But I wonder how Christian math or hypnosis differ from ordinary math and hypnosis?

"At the snap of my finger, you will go into a deep trance, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost." ;)
 
Will Matthew account for this later when it is hacked doubt of stones .. disbelieve able from the ethereal side ...? Ob alls ...
 
Hermann said:
Sure, we can tap into our hidden consciousness and unleash our internal healing code. Then we'll live well and die well. We'll live and die well mainly because we know that our ultimate self is forever, at-one with the eternal Divine.:)
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Herm, meanwhile, check out the recent article from the National Post, Monday, Sept 15, 2015: http://news.nationalpost.com/health/0914-na-suicide
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Canadian psychiatrists fear patients with severe depression could qualify for assisted suicide

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Sharon Kirkey | September 9, 2015 | Last Updated: Sep 13 4:49 PM ET
More from Sharon Kirkey | @sharon_kirkey

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Sean Kilpatrick / Canadian PressA pedestrian walks past the Supreme Court of Canada in Ottawa on July 23.
After practising for generations to prevent suicide, psychiatrists across Canada could soon be asked to help some people kill themselves — thrusting the profession into what some of its members are calling the untenable role of “suicide enablers.”

In its historic ruling striking down the Criminal Code provisions prohibiting doctors from “aiding or abetting” suicide, the high court granted adult Canadians suffering a “grievous” and “irremediable” condition the right to die a doctor-hastened death.

The ruling is creating deep discomfort in a field of medicine where “cures” are rare, and where many worry there is every possibility severe depression and other mental illnesses could meet the test for assisted suicide, or even euthanasia — death by lethal injection — as set out by the court, as long as the person is competent and can provide free and informed consent.

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“I have been approached by many psychiatrists who have serious concerns about physician assisted death being applied to mental illnesses,” said Dr. Padriac Carr, president of the Canadian Psychiatric Association and a professor of psychiatry at the University of Alberta.

“Legal definitions are extremely important here,” he said. “Remediable” could be defined as treatable, or curable. In psychiatry, he said, “complete cures are quite rare.” Most treatments are directed at relieving symptoms.

“If ‘remediable’ implies a cure, then almost all psychiatric illnesses could be considered ‘irremediable,’” he said.

If, on the other hand, “remediable” is defined as treatable, most psychiatric illnesses wouldn’t meet the standard, “because there are almost always treatment options we can try,” Carr said.

If ‘remediable’ implies a cure, then almost all psychiatric illnesses could be considered ‘irremediable,’

“Intolerable” and “enduring” suffering are also problematic, he said. Symptoms of psychiatric illness can wax and wane over time, Carr said. “For weeks or months, a patient could be suicidal, and yet that situation could change.”

“The big fear for psychiatrists is that they may be participating in physician-assisted death, when there is a chance for treatment.”

While Carr believes psychiatric illnesses likely wouldn’t meet the criteria as currently set out by the court, ethicists have argued competent people struggling with severe depression or other mental disorders should be treated no differently than competent people suffering from incurable, physical ones.

Either way, some psychiatrists want no role whatsoever in assisted suicide or euthanasia, Carr said.

Others are calling for mandatory psychiatric assessments for every person seeking an assisted death, meaning psychiatrists could become the ultimate arbiters.

“After working in end-of-life care a long time, you realize that people have ups and downs in their mood, in their feelings, in how they see their future,” said Dr. Romayne Gallagher, a leading expert in palliative care who is among those calling for a psychiatric referral for every request for hastened death.

“Physicians might just take somebody at face value and say, ‘Oh, okay, I need to honour your autonomy,’ without exploring why they might be thinking this way,” Gallagher said.

“We often miss things like depression and delirium and even coercion,” she said.

“If someone comes to emergency and says, ‘I want to kill myself,’ they’re seen by the psychiatrist, and the psychiatrist will always get collateral information from their families in trying to understand what’s going on,” Gallagher added.

“I think we need to use some of the same approaches” with requests for doctor-hastened deaths, she said.

Others say it’s unfair to cast psychiatrists in the role of “gatekeepers,” or to force every person exercising his or her legal right to a doctor-assisted death to undergo a mental evaluation. Mandatory assessments, several prominent U.S. psychiatrists wrote in 2012 in The Hastings Report, would turn the consulting psychiatrist “into a secular priest dressed in the clothes of a medical expert.”

Physicians might just take somebody at face value and say, ‘Oh, okay, I need to honour your autonomy,’ without exploring why they might be thinking this way

One psychiatrist, speaking at the Canadian Medical Association’s recent annual general council meeting in Halifax, said many of the patients in her maximum-security hospital are “competent adults. Their conditions are grievous and irremediable, and they do cause enduring suffering,” she said. “Some of my patients contemplate suicide as a means of escape.”

The Supreme Court ruling, she said, “will, from time to time, put psychiatrists in the untenable position of being suicide enablers,” she said, “at the same time mental health acts require us to protect our patients.”

Others argue the issue is about patient autonomy. “This isn’t about what organized religions, or palliative care doctors or other physicians want,” said Vancouver psychiatrist Dr. Derryck Smith, a professor emeritus at the University of British Columbia and physician advisor to Dying with Dignity Canada.

“Psychiatric illness is simply a disorder of the brain — it’s another part of the body,” he said.

If the person is competent, “I would see no reason why we should not go ahead and grant their wishes,” he said.
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Yes, once assisted suicide is legal, there is the "grave" danger that people with severe depression qualify for an assisted exit into the great beyond.

But what if, once they are in the great beyond, they'll realize that they have taken their distraught psyche with them?

There is a distinct possibility of this happening. I think it is much better to heal a disordered psyche in the here and now, and take a serene psyche into the great beyond.


EPITAPH

I wrote for you, before I died,
Before my heart stood still,
My final verse of poetry,
Last words to mark my will.

Although the cruel tyrant, time,
Has brought me to my death,
My mind remained serene, divine,
Until my final breath.

Dear friends, do not feel sad for me,
Do mix your grief with joy:
My sickness did not trouble me,
My death I did enjoy.

Because I AM eternally,
I lived, and died, in ecstasy.

-Hermann
 
The brain is another part of the IHK, self ... and we are told we should know the self ... but the self is as mysterious as the intellect on this mein thought ... and you know how the powers are about common, ordinary people knowing anything little more everything ...

In such a quandary is it a wonder that some people are depressed to the point of seeing only one way out ... until it could see that sacred drive to oppress commoners so they wouldn't know what the upper crust is moving towards ... the great blanket case. Do you understand the term blanketing while confined in an institution? It has its metaphors and satyrs ... life is a preparatory course on profound investigation ...
 
Hermann said:
Yes, once assisted suicide is legal, there is the "grave" danger that people with severe depression qualify for an assisted exit into the great beyond.

But what if, once they are in the great beyond, they'll realize that they have taken their distraught psyche with them?

There is a distinct possibility of this happening. I think it is much better to heal a disordered psyche in the here and now, and take a serene psyche into the great beyond.


EPITAPH

I wrote for you, before I died,
Before my heart stood still,
My final verse of poetry,
Last words to mark my will.

Although the cruel tyrant, time,
Has brought me to my death,
My mind remained serene, divine,
Until my final breath.

Dear friends, do not feel sad for me,
Do mix your grief with joy:
My sickness did not trouble me,
My death I did enjoy.

Because I AM eternally,
I lived, and died, in ecstasy.

-Hermann
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A metaphor of the apocalypse, or the great awakening as the psyche was dead ... until then ... disconnected as in the great word in Hebrew for isolated ... that's Maheinaim ... and then the transfer ... a mental transcendence ... transcending dense? Ether is like that ... out-of-this-whorled as the opposing crank?
 
Hermann said:
Yes, once assisted suicide is legal, there is the "grave" danger that people with severe depression qualify for an assisted exit into the great beyond.

But what if, once they are in the great beyond, they'll realize that they have taken their distraught psyche with them?

There is a distinct possibility of this happening. I think it is much better to heal a disordered psyche in the here and now, and take a serene psyche into the great beyond.
EPITAPH
I wrote for you, before I died,
Before my heart stood still,
My final verse of poetry,
Last words to mark my will.

Although the cruel tyrant, time,
Has brought me to my death,
My mind remained serene, divine,
Until my final breath.

Dear friends, do not feel sad for me,
Do mix your grief with joy:
My sickness did not trouble me,
My death I did enjoy.

Because I AM eternally,
I lived, and died, in ecstasy.

-Hermann
Click to expand...
Great poem, Herm! I am glad that Pneuma guided me to them. I will pass the words on to others, ok!
http://wondercafe2.ca/index.php?thr...ure-a-neo-logism-i-love-new-words.1745/page-3
 
Should one learn while stuck here or just follow free wiles ? Some wile not to learn ... naïveté is best ... thus ignorance is persuasive ...

Hoo said that?
 
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