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Kind of a genetic worm as you see it unwound ...

Genes work better when all Ba'aL' dupe ... and perhaps like dopamine countering excess endogenous matter ... 4 main ones and a multitude of others ...

The spectre presented is way over my head and I suspect over a number of experts declared in the field! Too much potential to absorb ...
 
B got her sixth shot and I got my fifth shot Thursday. Received emails from Ontario health the previous week saying it was time for our booster shot. Phoned our pharmacy on Tuesday and booked in for Thursday. No reaction for ke this time. I received Pfizer and she had Moderna.
 
This report has not been peer reviewed. I do not know what the sample population was or the parameters for the study. If the results hold, it should provoke research into what mechanisms are in play. Covid-19 keeps surprising us with what it does. I hope there are staff in Health Canada capable of evaluating the research and making appropriate recommendations to Dr. Tam. The failure of Health Canada to use good research as it emerges in making recommendations had contributed to low trust in government policies.
 
To debunk yet ANOTHER haywire covid conspiracy:

www.mcgill.ca

Vaccine study that has people worried is being misinterpreted

This article was originally posted in the Montreal Gazette. Recently, some people have been spreading the idea that getting additional doses of the COVID vaccine increases the risk of catching the virus. The suggestion was made in an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal and repeated recently...
www.mcgill.ca
 
Redbaron said:
To debunk yet ANOTHER haywire covid conspiracy:

www.mcgill.ca

Vaccine study that has people worried is being misinterpreted

This article was originally posted in the Montreal Gazette. Recently, some people have been spreading the idea that getting additional doses of the COVID vaccine increases the risk of catching the virus. The suggestion was made in an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal and repeated recently...
www.mcgill.ca
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Actually no conspiracy theory there

Be patient. Wait for the peer review to go through. If the study turns out to be true, the info will be accommodated into the practices currently used?

Science tends to be slower than the media

Be patient.

Of course people will react to this and we can't control how they react

We can however be patient

And those who can help educate
 
Yes, but conspiracy theorists haven't done the complete reading of the paper in question. If they had, they would have found exactly what the article I cited shows. The world is in enough trouble without creating new conspiracies about Covid.
 
Delightful Life said:
Be patient. Wait for the peer review to go through. If the study turns out to be true, the info will be accommodated into the practices currently used?
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Peer review is irrelevant. The whole point of the article that Red posted is that the paper does not actually say what that tweet claims it says, regardless of whether it passes review or not. Someone needs to learn to read English. And, to be frank, get off Twitter. It is now even more of a shithole than before and is not going to improve.
 
There's that old adage about questioning all things ... thus we lean on God (eternal wisdom) as mortals tend to do alternately ...

In pious books we are directed to not even question what's in the books and tomes except for the rare exceptions ... these are generally unheard of for alien rationale! Thus strange loves ...
 
Redbaron said:
Yes, but conspiracy theorists haven't done the complete reading of the paper in question. If they had, they would have found exactly what the article I cited shows. The world is in enough trouble without creating new conspiracies about Covid.
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Ok I get that.
But there is no need to worry?
Look at the world around you now? Look at how open it is. We have all learned how to live with Covid. The Pandemic is over. The virus is still here; it is endemic. All your concerns about people having the wrong thoughts (which I grok...the whole experience was insane) aren't relevant anymore?

I understand your need to call out Sinners. I do.

But worry aboot what people think? You can't stop people thinking. You just can't.

Conspiracies will always be thought about. People will think and have thoughts and not all of them will be copacetic with reality.

The world has opened up. The hate and anger towards certain thoughts aren't relevant any more. 2020 etc is over.

Anyway, those are my thoughts
 
Mendalla said:
Peer review is irrelevant. The whole point of the article that Red posted is that the paper does not actually say what that tweet claims it says, regardless of whether it passes review or not. Someone needs to learn to read English. And, to be frank, get off Twitter. It is now even more of a s**thole than before and is not going to improve.
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Twitter is still the same I find, despite what some people may think of Elon and his support of Trump and his antivaxxer stances in the past etc


There are still amazing convos happening on there

It just isn't controlled or guided by FBI etc anymore...

Again, the world is open :3 Look around you

Someone will have wrong thoughts. Science is HARD.
 
Waterfall said:
It's probably more prudent to fact check these studies before posting.
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Good advice

I should realize how triggering some concepts are to some here, though it still boggles and surprises me...a lot of us here seem to have changed over the past few years, gained a kind of PTSD or traumas, which I can understand

Anyway, I am glad that some here have been able to, using their skills, to examine the OP info. I think that is good and I thank those who were able to :3
 
So trying to grok this

In the conclusion part of the paper it says

"Since the XBB lineages became dominant, adults not "up-to-date" by the CDC definition have a lower risk of COVID-19 than those "up-to-date" on COVID-19 vaccination..."

So that sounds pretty clear that those "up-to-date" had a higher risk for COVID-19?

That doesn't sound scary to me?

We would still use the tech, because it still reduces severity of the disease and so forth?

Plus the beneficial mutations are fun *waggles prehensile brain*
 
Looks like it made peer review?

academic.oup.com

Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Bivalent Vaccine

Among 51 017 working-aged Cleveland Clinic employees, the bivalent coronavirus disease 2019 vaccine was 29% and 20% effective in preventing infection while
academic.oup.com academic.oup.com

From the Discussion part of the paper: "The association of increased risk of COVID-19 with more prior vaccine doses was unexpected."


Good discussion on that previous twitter thread

Some people positing why the paper's conclusions might be reached that way; differences in vaxxinated behaviours and such...
 
Delightful Life said:
Ok I get that.
But there is no need to worry?
Look at the world around you now? Look at how open it is. We have all learned how to live with Covid. The Pandemic is over. The virus is still here; it is endemic. All your concerns about people having the wrong thoughts (which I grok...the whole experience was insane) aren't relevant anymore?

I understand your need to call out Sinners. I do.

But worry aboot what people think? You can't stop people thinking. You just can't.

Conspiracies will always be thought about. People will think and have thoughts and not all of them will be copacetic with reality.

The world has opened up. The hate and anger towards certain thoughts aren't relevant any more. 2020 etc is over.

Anyway, those are my thoughts
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If we are to worry, we should at least worry about things that are real and true, rather than over some conspiracy sparked by someone like Webb, who is sort of like someone yelling 'Fire!'in a crowded theatre.
By the way, Twitter is NOT the same as it was before Elon Musk took it over. Period.;
 
It is so good that somethings cause people to think ... alternately they wouldn't because they are too comfortable with the old ways ... all required is a good set of clubs to set upon the Ba'aL ... now what Ba'aL was is altered because of passages ... mostly Timaeus ... with dt's ...
 
Delightful Life said:
Ok I get that.
But there is no need to worry?
Look at the world around you now? Look at how open it is. We have all learned how to live with Covid. The Pandemic is over. The virus is still here; it is endemic. All your concerns about people having the wrong thoughts (which I grok...the whole experience was insane) aren't relevant anymore?

I understand your need to call out Sinners. I do.

But worry aboot what people think? You can't stop people thinking. You just can't.

Conspiracies will always be thought about. People will think and have thoughts and not all of them will be copacetic with reality.

The world has opened up. The hate and anger towards certain thoughts aren't relevant any more. 2020 etc is over.

Anyway, those are my thoughts
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When those thoughts that people have lead to harassment of health workers, truck convoys and such, it matters. When beliefs that childhood vaccines lead to autism lead to tens of thousands of children not receiving those vaccinations and many getting sick and occasionally dying, it matters. When fascists use those thoughts to get support for insurrections like January 6, it matters.
 
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