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Thanks once again. Something tells me that if we had minds for finance our life would look different at the moment. It's kind of funny actually. I giggled when I went to the site.:LOL: I didn't know what Edward Jones is. But I know you meant well and I appreciate that.
 
My husband had to drop out of his studies because of the encephalitis that caused him to have epilepsy (left scarring). And he didn't go back. He is very intelligent, well read, but he has trouble with quick memory recall. Accounting, finance - likely frustrating for him. So he has had blue collar jobs. His other love is sports. His mobility is not impaired. He's fit (although lost muscle mass when he was really sick and in hospital a couple of months ago. He's naturally thin and needs to work at keeping weight on:rolleyes: That's not a problem we share). He has some coaching training. He and a friend are planning (well proposing/ applying for court time - the pay is not huge- it's a community centre - but it's something he wants to try) to do a youth tennis clinic through one of the community centres this summer and see where that goes. In the meantime he needs 'bread and butter' work.
 
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It depends on the topic. Some things I will take more personally. If it's really important to me it's hard to feel too kindly towards people who disagree at the time. Some things are not just topics when you live with, are directly affected by them them or fear the consequences of them. Disability is something I live with. I'm not going to like people who pass a bill that makes my life more dangerous or support a model that oppresses me. It's the same on both sides of such a disagreement. I don't think people like me while I'm disagreeing with them either. Let's be honest.
 
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Kimmio said:
It depends on the topic. Some things I will take more personally. If it's really important to me it's hard to feel too kindly towards people who disagree at the time. Some things are not just topics when you live with, are directly affected by them them or fear the consequences of them. Disability is something I live with. I'm not going to like people who pass a bill that makes my life more dangerous or support a model that oppresses me. It's the same on both sides of such a disagreement. I don't think people like me while I'm disagreeing with them either. Let's be honest.
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agape/compassion/empathy is easy when its something you agree with
agape etc is even harder when its something or someone you don't agree with or its aboot something you're passionate aboot

your g_d is always testing you
 
Two of my surviving grandparents who I was close to - they were a stable reliable unconditionally loving force in my life - died in the past two years. They both were kept comfortable on meds until they died and didn't have to suffer agony. If they had - I can understand the pro-assisted suicide argument. For other circumstances it gets really dicey. I stand by everything I've said and why I disagree with significant parts of this ruling.
 
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Kimmio said:
One thing I learned from my father is he will debate a political topic until he's blue in the face. It's no fun to be on the other side. But I'm stubborn like that.
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Stubbornness is not changing your position. It is not being upset that everyone else isn't changing theirs.
 
I understand that it is difficult when people disagree on a topic that you feel passionately about. I have a few of those myself. It is though, always just disagreement. It is not dislike or disapproval. I'm thankful for opposing views. It makes the world far more interesting.
 
chansen said:
Stubbornness is not changing your position. It is not being upset that everyone else isn't changing theirs.
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What happens in a debate is you argue your position, they argue theirs. Sometimes you discover down the road when a circumstance happens that causes pause for reflection that you've learned something about the other side of an argument. Has happened to me as I've gotten older and had different life experiences. As for social vs medical model (or their variations) I just don't see the medical model compatible with my values and experiences. And it is the UN position - it's not just some abstract adademic nuanced argument - it's not illogical or some fringe position. It has brought many positive changes that people may not realize. I think that's why I got so upset - because of the suggestion that it is some strange view from out of left field. I'm arguing a position that's widely recognized.
 
I don't think anyone was saying the social model was a strange view from out of left field. I certainly don't believe that. I think the prevailing view was that is was only part of the picture and that the understanding of the picture is somewhat fluid.

I also didn't think anyone was supporting the medical model exclusively. I definitely don't. I see a place for the medical model, in the bigger picture.
 
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