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KayTheCurler said:
A few days ago we learned, while chatting to our daughter, that her FIL had a mild case of Covid, but was still in his LTC room.. Today she phoned to say that he died. She is on her last work day of a cruise and packing to return home.
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Hugs Kay to you, your daughter and the family.
 
Read this interesting Medscape article today about some research speculation on the role of micro-clots in Long Covid. Good to see there's inquiry going on.
 
jimkenney12 said:
I wish our governments would take Covid more seriously and show more courage in pushing people to act to reduce transmission. More Canadians died from Covid this year than in 2020 or 2021 and the year is not finished. They should drop all mandates related to vaccinations, promote masking, invest in improved ventilation in all public buildings, but especially schools, legislate paid sick leave for all employees, and provide current information to the public about Covid related deaths, hospitalizations, and long term effects. Omicron has changed many of the rules related to infectious diseases.
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Agreed. Also disappointed in how the government is managing the bivalent vaccines. Even pro-covid response groups like a doctor group in Edmonton has been sharing to promote a video by the Alberta government. According to that I should be considering getting my 4th dose now as I'm high risk. Ummm what? That would be my 4th booster which I got last winter. I've had dose #6. They are promoting dose #3 for healthy people - over a year ago for Chemguy. How many people even know they can get 5th or 6th doses if it's been long enough?
I understand the evidence for vaccines isn't as great as it was because of the genetic shifts, but still pretty strong that getting a booster after 6 months lowers severe outcones and less strong but there - lowers risk of long covid (not as have because data collection is no where what it should be considering healthcare impact, quality of life for many people).

Alberta does at least publish limited data. Last I saw hospitalizations with covid - over 1000. Yes the majority were not hospitalizated due TO covid, but infections including coid tend to increase level of care and length of stay. Plus the hospitalizations due to covid were not insignificant, about 40%. ~400 extra cases in hospitals certainly adds to a stressed system.

Access to covid treatments needs to be easier than it is. Here being unvaccinated makes access so much easier, and that shouldn't be the case if it was a choice.

If I got sick with the flu right niw I don't even know what the process would be to access Tamiflu, which should be started in 48 hours. I know what I would do, but not the most efficient. I would be taking a multiroute approach (unless emergency room was necessary, I would hope that would give quick access) to ensure my best chances. Particularly with kids, hiw many who should have access to medication right now actually have it? How much of that is to blame on the current hospital stress?

Also annoyed with Trudeau and his response to better healthcare funding. Elderly relatives of mine have covid now. She normally uses oxygen, ended up in the hospital in the ambulance bay.
 
All governments sre complicit. When privileged people are in power, they are reluctant to spend money on people who need it and quick to spend money helping other privileged people like hundreds of millions without asking them to restore the rights of workers or back off on their anti-democratic repression of opposition parties. Canadian workers should not have to support autocracies just because they are at war with Russia. Instead of vague demands for assurances from provincial governments, the federal government could offer significant financial assistance for public primary care centres or networks, salary support for home care, and set up a centre for collecting and sharing current research for all health issues.

Our federal politicians seem more interested in power games than public leadership and service.
 
I remember 2-2.5 years ago there was the sentiment going around that if staying home was about protecting kids , parents, grandparents would be doing so. Looking around it's sad how few will even wear a mask to help ensure kids hospital care isn't overwhelmed.
 
The German leading immunologists have declared that the pandemic in Germany will be over at the end of winter, turning into an endemic. Due to the population having good protection from vaccinations as well as from having had Covid, it will likely just turn into any other disease. A bit of an unknown factor is the situation in China, which could come up with new Covid variations.
That is nice to hear. Hopefully it will become true.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
The German leading immunologists have declared that the pandemic in Germany will be over at the end of winter, turning into an endemic. Due to the population having good protection from vaccinations as well as from having had Covid, it will likely just turn into any other disease. A bit of an unknown factor is the situation in China, which could come up with new Covid variations.
That is nice to hear. Hopefully it will become true.
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Another variation is biological warfare.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
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I was meaning a natural mutation as result of the massive infection rate happening there right now after they loosened the restrictions. I don’t think that China has any interest in setting loose another germ that could affect their own population.
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But do other nations?
 
In trans mortification; do folk go mute when they rise up as fecundity for the extensive tree that is beyond mortal comprehension?

If mortification is shame are we thus put down and descended by the idea of being fallacy and fallout of eternal factors?

Lord how things can be warped in the laying on of word ... an inking process! I'm beginning to look forward to getting out of this numb situation we are encouraged to enter by those desiring toal power (totalitarianism)! Should we label this naivete, stunned, spectacular, or just stewed? May establish the sense of prime evil soup ... pre essence ??? The pain of initiation allotted to initiates? Some deny the entire sentient state and thus omniscient matters are out there ... beyond the mortal state of shamed to death ... especially for learning to understand the dark writ of word ... so transcribed!

So many trnasmutations, etc. to get through as denied change ... a learning experience bi passed in the biosphere by a certain classification of feeling? Then there is that huge helliopause ... it too is way out defining in some terms indeterminate substances here at ground level ...

Some believe that matter can be turned into energy and vice versa ... one tensor here being a dark process involving unseeable stars that we are blind to ... thus blind fates? They drip off clochs ... if you've ever been cloched ... you may know what I interpret as farce Ide ...

Thus tiny c*ristianity where c may represent sparks in the overhead ... something to reflect and Mo*An about?

it may be a sad howl ... given what we know because of sacred occlusions ... occult processes given we are told what we shouldn't be cognizant of? Once holes in intelligence begin to grow do spatial degrees initiate? There's a start ...

It may begin with a donkey from the shepherd folk of Galilee! A figure of oral expousal ... often exorcised by those wishing to keep people innocent ... so they will not know what the Gods of earth are doing to counter the Gods from the far side ... ethereal? Laughter is like that too ... mortifies those who wish to keep their twisted virtue out of sight. Some probing in the unknown may be prerequisite ... but we may be blacked out on this trope!

It does hit some folk with considerable difficulty as they cling to the reality of Leon's Lyre ... thus the abyss as a large gap between emotioonal content and reliable understanding (intelligence)! Often a dark reflection causing further mortification as it is extensive ...

Imagine a wise tree of wisdom that some man of power would simply fell! Thus the misinformation about voices in a devoid forest ... if you listen carfully what's missing (ommission) is notable ...

Should sins be better studied for root cause and reason? Such characters are diminished in a potent sol ... thus light collapses to a point of myth and myst ... my essence?
 
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The biological warfare theory remains largely rejected so I would suggest that we not go any further down that road. We have already said we don't this to be a place for promoting conspiracy theories. If it is a lab escape, it is probably the accidental result of research into the virus, not an attempt to weaponize it.

Waterfall said:
But do other nations?
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Same risk. One of the reasons biological warfare has never caught on is that the risk of a boomerang is high. Even if you create a vaccine for your new supervirus and vaccinate your whole population, mutations could render it ineffective. We cannot stop viruses from mutating, no matter how hard we may try, so a weaponized virus has probably the greatest risk of blowback of any WMD, though nukes and chemicals have blowback risks of their own.
 
Mendalla said:
If it is a lab escape, it is probably the accidental result of research into the virus, not an attempt to weaponize it.
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And even if it was a weaponized (doubt that), I would still guess accidental escape. As far as a bioweapon goes it's rather ineffective, it doesn't really fir any target goal that there isn't a better option for that I can think of.
 
Covid has really shown that biological weapons would backfire on one's own population and economy, so I would be stupid unless someone is aiming at destroying all of humanity.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Covid has really shown that biological weapons would backfire on one's own population and economy, so I would be stupid unless someone is aiming at destroying all of humanity.
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Well it's less messy than nuclear warfare, and that one country just might have an antidote.
 
Waterfall said:
Well it's less messy than nuclear warfare, and that one country just might have an antidote.
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But, as I pointed out, that antidote may only protect you until the virus mutates. Once you release it, you have no control over it anymore so your antidote may become ineffective down the line. And note that China's inhouse vaccine is far less effective than the Western-developed mRNA vaccines so apparently if this was a bioweapon, they sure as hell did a lousy job. (But it wasn't).
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Covid has really shown that biological weapons would backfire on one's own population and economy, so I would be stupid unless someone is aiming at destroying all of humanity.
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Straying into a bit of another topic here, but I don't think this shows that bioweapons would backfire (although there is always some amount of risk for that). It's just that COVID isn't a great bioweapon.
 
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