Ontario's Radical Sex Ed Curriculum

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Yes it is important info.

But we also need to be aware that not everyone has the same views.

And not everyone has the same approach to children at the different ages.

And while i agree that parents can be lax in how they impart information, i am not sure i think kids in elementary school need alot of the graphic info they seem to be discussing.

Maybe. Just not convinced yet

The issue with education is that it seems to run to extremes and current theories.

Who , like me endured the period during the 60's , classes with no walls. Huge gym size rooms, with four or five teachers and kids. No walls extreme noise.


Or the rush to drop phonics and embrace whole language. And the number if kids who couldn't cope. My sister was a very frustrated teacher during those days. Sneaking phonics worksheets to kids who needed that style of learning

Calm, open discussion is important.

What says that the teacher is the least bit comfortable with the topic. Big issue


My kids at their school had a specialized x ed teacher for the sessions. Someone who had a level of comfort to not get rattled by out. There questions.
 
chansen said:
Let the religious whack-jobs wail away. This is important information that kids should be armed with.
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Should kids be taught all the mechanics of sex before they are mature enough to understand that which they are being taught?
 
PR Jae, have you actually looked at what is being presented when?

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Listened to some good dialogues, in part that Ontario is , I think , the only province that hasn't updated their program/
 
Pinga said:
PR Jae, have you actually looked at what is being presented when?
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Yes of course. It should be of interest to all Ontarians. (y)

I'll be at Queens Park tomorrow. If anyone else is interested in being there perhaps we could meet up.
 
i think that'd be cool for there to be a WC2 contingent there -- showing how people can still disagree and yet be 'united' :3

hope to see ya Disciples in the Shared Human Experience on tv (y)
 
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chansen said:
Kids are not as stupid as your think they are.
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my parent's kids were brought up so that we could ask questions
we were never taught to be ashamed of our bodies or fearful of the world
to be curious
we'd wander around nude in the house
we knew aboot reproduction in elementary school
my mother went through a period where she was teaching sex ed
all that and none of us three kids got accidentally pregnant, or got someone else accidentally pregnant or some kind of rampant & evil STD or got possessed by a demon...*twitch, twitch*

i concur, tho, problematic to just have unskilled teachers teaching sex-ed...ya need talented peeps...Dr Ruth???

(another positive of this sex edu is that it will tend to bring up creative people who know that they can become better who aren't necessarily going to be automatically suited for entry into the cogs of the machine...hey, that's another reason for the protest--the protestors are following the program of their forefathers -- be a cog in the machine, make babies, grow the economy, die for your country, we can't become better, we are sinners...whoo-hoo! too bad that is dying, dying, dying, people grasping at their fading bs...oh. my.)

so good on those people protesting -- showing a vigorous democracy -- and i giggle with them at their fear of TEH CHILDRENS! they'll become ravening sex slaves, hunted down and sacrificed by Satan worshippers!

oh, people's fear of 'pornography' -- or, rather, one Authority Figure (read: religious figure)'s Belief System that gets adopted by a group and then they try to defend it, blaming that which is outside themselves...

ah well, POPCORN!!!
 
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I want to go to the protest today, holding a sign that reads, "I'LL TEACH MY PREGNANT DAUGHTER ABOUT SEX WHEN I SAY SHE'S READY!!!!!"
 
When my granddaughter was about ten (Grade 4) her parent'ss friend's 15 year old daughter had a baby. Naturally Granddaughter and her older half-sister, and the neighbour kids all knew about it, and Granddaughter would occasionally mention it to mee - perhaps sounding me out (Grammy, don't you think it is great that J... is going to have a baby? or Grammy, J...'s baby is so cute.) While agreeing that the baby was 'cute' I also mentioned the problems and responsibilities of teeenage pregnancy.
Then one day Granddaughter surprised me with an observation - "Grammy, just because someone gets pregnant doesn't meean that they have to have a baby. They can stop it." I realized that my sweet, innocent little girl was talking rather casually about abortion.
I am quite certain that she didn't learn about it at school but rather it was probably whispered and giggled about among a group of children not much older or better informed than she was.
Don't be surprised if your kids know more than you think they do. Be prepared. Be open to talk about it. let them get the facts at school. And I would add a BUT - find out what is being covered in the curriculum and talk to your kids about it at home. Share your valuess.
 
No longer having kids in the Elementary or Secondary levels of Education I don't really have any skin in the game.

Someday I expect I will have grandkids in the system and I hope that they get an education that reflects the current reality rather than something that is generations out of date.

Our kids knew the technical anatomical names. We trusted that they would pick up the slang in due time.
Sexting wasn't an issue because apart from land-lines you communicated by cupping a hand or two and bellowing. Before they got their own tech they were given a frank and open conversation about what the tech was used for and any abuses of the tech would result in seizure of said tech.

I handled the talk with my son while my wife covered the talk with the girls. I tend to be the one who handles supply runs so I know what is going on.

Our kids were out in front of their peers for most of this kind of information including same sex and transgender issues. Their knowledge wouldn't be particularly deep. They knew enough not to be frightened of it or to stare in horror at it. None of it ever frightened myself or my wife so there was no chance of passing such a fear along.

Theologically we discussed the ideas of commitment and intimacy.

I don't think that turned our kids into lust-filled, promiscuous individuals with an insatiable desire to bump and grind against anything that moves.

I doubt that this curriculum will do that either.

Anecdotally, in talking with many folk who live with brokenness when sex becomes a problem it has less to do with who taught them about it and how knowledgeable that source was and more how they were so starved for genuine affection that they took whatever substitutes they could find.

I don't know if this curriculum helps in that regard. It doesn't have space for some of the traditional shaming and I think that is a good thing.
 
Our youngest son is in grade 10 in a private school here in Toronto. I'll contact them this week to find out what their stance is on the new sex ed curriculum. We may have to pull him out of class during those teaching times.
 
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